mystro
Years ago

R7: United Vs Breakers Vector Arena 22/11/15

Floppy43 and Melbourne United are in Auckland to take on the Breakers at Vector Arena in what should be a great game.

NZ's only loss since Corey Webster has returned from New Orleans was a highly controversial one in Round 5 against United in Melbourne.
NZ beat out Sydney in Sydney earlier in Round 7.

Melbourne United have since dropped consecutive games to Cairns in Round 6 and Townsville earlier in Round 7 so will be keen to avoid a 3 game losing streak.

NZ will need to limit Melbourne's open looks from the perimeter and win the rebound count. Dean Vickerman will probably run with Charles Jackson at PF and Alex Pledger at C often to try and snag extra possessions.

Melbourne will need to hit their shots to limit Ced Jackson getting the Breakers out in transition and defensively will need everyone boxing out.

Hopefully the refs let this one be decided by the players and not the whistles.

NZ should get this at home by 7.

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Kobe24  
Years ago

Warrick back on a 2 game losing streak. Im going to go with the mini upset and say United by 8.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Goulding and Webster should be in the NBA next year. As the scout down under of the Golden State Warriors I will be watching this game very carefully.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

If your the scout and think they are so good you would offer them contracts now lol

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LV  
Years ago

All the "floppy43" haters would've loved that play just before half time haha

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The Warriors roster is full man, training camp for next year is always an option

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TimberBall  
Years ago

How are the breakers allowed to have a band play while the opposition shoots free throws!! Every other stadium has silence and relies on the crowd. Cheap tricks.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Terrible game

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Blowout Troll  
Years ago

Goulding 0-7 from 3 LOL

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Blowout Troll  
Years ago

And thats why Goulding is NOT in the NBA...LOL

Nothing but a hack...

LOL 0-8 from the line.



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Anonymous  
Years ago

Webster doing the james harden sign. Son you aint in Hardens space

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Hendo8888  
Years ago

Goulding throws up some absolute trash.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Refs aren't going to bail you're overrated asses anymore floppers

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Blowout Troll  
Years ago

It shows you the state of the NBL when people say Goulding is the MVP of the league LOL

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Maybe United are not as good as we think. Heading for 3rd loss in a row, and should have lost previously to Breakers, and possibly to the Wildcats if we'd played with half a brain down the stretch.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Webster>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>flopping

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Anonymous  
Years ago

WTF is the Melbourne coach doing? calling a timeout no? you ...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Melbourne coach seemed to spend most of the timeout figuring out who was going to be on court

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Perth V Breakers GF for sure.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

These commentators sound like Eddie McGuire commentating a Collingwood game!! Zzzzzz

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Breakers now Sivin wins.

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Blowout Troll  
Years ago

As i wrote in another thread before, United live and die by the 3....

But people here were saying, if one shooter is off the other will pick them up...

LOL, how is that working out for you?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Thing you need to go back to school, learn how to spell.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Why is Nate Tomlinson the one taking the shots in the crunch time when they have 3 shooters who would be the number 1 guy in any other team. Crazy

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LV  
Years ago

The true test was always going to be how United played once everyone had the chance to scout them and see what they could do. And the true test was always going to be if Melb had a plan B on nights when threes weren't falling.

It's a long season but today shows that NZ becomes the clear favourite for now at least.

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Kobe24  
Years ago

Interesting United have definitely lost that invincibility I thought they had. Kept to 69 yikes! Pressure now mounts that bit more. The NBL season is well and truly alive.

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mystro  
Years ago

Corey Webster with a huge game.
39 points at 52% and 7/9 from behind the arc and played just under 39 minutes.
The only other Breaker in double figures was Ced Jackson with 10 points.

A combined defensive effort from Webster and Abercrombie kept Chris Goulding to just 19 points at just 37% and 0/7 from behind the arc.

NZ won the rebound count 30/36 but Melbourne surprisingly beat out NZ on the O Boards 14/13.

Melbourne have now dropped 3 in a row (should have been 4) and aren't as invincible as everyone thought. They have Perth and NZ breathing down their necks on the ladder and face a road trip up to Townsville in Round 8 which won't be a cake walk.

NZ head to Perth to see if they can do it on the road but they will be very happy with how they closed out this game and went 2/0 for the round.

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snooch  
Years ago

Is Webster the best player in the league right now (barring Childress who hasn't been playing)? He has to be close.

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Baller  
Years ago

Well done again to the New Zealand national team!

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Chris  
Years ago

Baller
Relevant?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Baller, how does three players consist of a national team?

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Kobe24  
Years ago

NZ have a special one in Webster. Said it when he went to NBA, he is as good as an import for them. If he stays in the NBL will be highest paid guy within a few seasons. So much confidence and ability to follow through with it.

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paul  
Years ago

As good as an import, that's a real old school comment, love it! If he was 6'5 he'd a be a starter in the NBA, but he's 6'1 so we get the pleasure of watching him here!

Anon, you do realise the Breakers have six guys from the NZ national team?

Surely no ones surprised Melbourne have come back to the pack? They have good talent and started well with a great draw but they've always had defensive and rebounding weaknesses, which show up when the shots stop dropping.

NZ and Perth are the benchmarks in this league every year and its no different this season. The good news or Melbourne is those two have back-to-back games so someone has to lose!

Shame the refs let this one be so physical, just let it amplify throughout the game, which stopped it being a great spectacle. Oh well, the result certainly makes the race for top spot interesting.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Name the six that played at the world cup?

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paul  
Years ago

Did I say six played at the World Cup? Vukona, Abercrombie, Bartlett, Webster and Te Rangi all played in their most recent tournament against Australia and Pledger missed through injury.

Pledger also missed the WC through injury and Te Rangi wasn't available due to his legal proceedings, but all six of those guys are in NZ's best team.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Alex Pledger and Te Rangi arent national team worthy, only had spots when NZ was weak on players

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Same could be said for bartlett, guys like Webster, Adams, Penney ect affected things

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Pledger not national team worthy?? When healthy he is our second best center behind Adams

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mystro  
Years ago

"Pledger not national team worthy?? When healthy he is our second best center behind Adams"

Agreed Anon, Alex Pledger's actually our 1st choice Centre (when healthy) until Adams actually makes himself available for National duties.
For the Anon above you to say he's not up to standard either shows he's a Troll or has absolutely no idea.

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MACDUB  
Years ago

As I always say, if Corey had Tai's body, he would be a legitimate NBA player in the rotation.

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paul  
Years ago

Anon is obviously grabbing at straws after realising he/she hadn't done any research on the matter.

Te Rangi was a revelation on the Euro/China tour this year and played the fifth most minutes in the Oceania series, scoring 17p in 32mins against Australia. That's reasonably worthy.

Bartlett has become and important spark off the bench for the TB's, scoring 13p in 22mins in the Oceania series. He played important cameos in the two wins on the trot that put NZ through to the knockout rounds at the WC too.

As for Pledger, across six major FIBA tournaments from 2008-2013 his per 40 minute stats are 16p and 13r. He was 3rd in rebounding and 2nd in o-boards at the 2012 Olympic qualifying tournament. That's reasonably worthy.

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PeterJohn  
Years ago

mystro - NZ only had fewer offensive boards because they had fewer opportunities. They did marginally better than Melbourne for the opportunities they had.

NZ won 13/43 offensive rebound opportunities = 30%
Melbourne won 14/50 offensive rebound opportunities = 28%

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paul  
Years ago

"Is Webster the best player in the league right now (barring Childress who hasn't been playing)? He has to be close."

On his day he is, but in seven games back he's had three really good games, two decent games and two poor ones so I wouldn't put him clear of the field just yet. Certainly one of the best though.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Webster looking good for first team all NBL

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Webster and Goulding need to make sure the can have a positive effect on a game when they aren't hitting every shot.

Webster ran the point nicely last round.


Goulding drove v Townsville and hit Blanchfield a few times for open looks.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

People forget as good as Webster was against United he was terrible against the Kings. He needs to perform at a high level on a consistent basis.

He's probably a Top 5 player more due to the amount of teams but too much of a chucker. There is a big gap between Childress and the rest though.

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mystro  
Years ago

"mystro - NZ only had fewer offensive boards because they had fewer opportunities. They did marginally better than Melbourne for the opportunities they had.

NZ won 13/43 offensive rebound opportunities = 30%
Melbourne won 14/50 offensive rebound opportunities = 28%"

thanks Peter, yeah I guess it's hard to get offensive boards when the opposition are plucking the ball out of the net.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I was at the NZ v Kings game and boy does Webster travel a lot when he catches the ball off the screen. Frankly I couldn't believe they weren't called they were that obvious.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The Wildcats v Breakers 2 game series coming up promises to be a great, great couple of games.

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