Aussie Basketball Travellers Dunk Basketball Uniforms

Advertising spot currently available.
Minimum three month period (1.2+ million page views, 92% Australian).
Email [email protected] for rates and options.

AD: Office space available in Adelaide CBD @ 313 Halifax St;
Suit creatives; freelance desks or space for 2-4 person business. More info

Isaac
Two years ago

#38569

Kobe announces he will retire at end of season

Kobe announces he will retire after this season:

Dear Basketball,

From the moment
I started rolling my dad's tube socks
And shooting imaginary
Game-winning shots
In the Great Western Forum
I knew one thing was real:

I fell in love with you.
Full article, err, poem

Players Tribune site hosting the announcement is struggling to stay online.

Report this topic


 

scopes44
Two years ago
11:38 30 Nov 15

Reply #567421

re: Kobe announces he will retire at end of season

If he was so sure he didnt want a farewell tour. Why would you announce it now? Although I agree he should get a farewell but seriously should retire now IMO. He just cannot shoot anymore.
Actually come to think about it, it could be to give the Lakers best chance to get Simmons ☺


Report this post



Anonymous
Two years ago
11:44 30 Nov 15

Reply #567424

re: Kobe announces he will retire at end of season

I think playing the year out will give them a better chance at No.1


Report this post



Anonymous
Two years ago
11:58 30 Nov 15

Reply #567431

re: Kobe announces he will retire at end of season

Really goes to show how special MJ was.
Not that any of us didn't already know that.

Kobe just turned 37 (+ 69days)
Current stats which will likely get worse as season progresses.
15.7pts/4.1rbs/3.4ast at a terrible 31.5%!!!

MJ - just 13 days before his 39th birthday finished the season with.
Average 22.9pts/5.7rbs/5.2ast at 41.6%

This is after Jordan sat out of the game for 3yrs!


Report this post



Luuuc
Two years ago
12:02 30 Nov 15

Reply #567433

re: Kobe announces he will retire at end of season

This sucks.

I'm enjoying Kobe's play immensely this season.


Report this post



Anonymous
Two years ago
12:10 30 Nov 15

Reply #567436

re: Kobe announces he will retire at end of season

Don't forget anon Jordan averaged 20ppg @ 45%, 6rpg and 4apg as a 39/40 year old in his last season with the Wizards.

Jordan still is the only 40yo in NBA history to have a 40 point game.


Report this post



XY
Two years ago
12:13 30 Nov 15

Reply #567439

re: Kobe announces he will retire at end of season

Played at least 3 seasons too long - has irretrievably tarnished his reputation, and given so much ammunition to his army of haters.


Report this post



Anonymous
Two years ago
12:15 30 Nov 15

Reply #567441

re: Kobe announces he will retire at end of season

Not sure why people feel the need for comparisons with Jordan constantly.
Kobe has clearly lost a step this season but will still walk away as one of the best to play in the NBA.


Report this post



Anonymous
Two years ago
12:21 30 Nov 15

Reply #567444

re: Kobe announces he will retire at end of season

Imagine if Jordan never had the year and half off in 1993-95.
And again from 98-01.

He could have ended up with 8 titles in a row, another couple scoring titles, scoring record, anthoner couple mvp.


What he was doing as a 38-40yr was just surreal!


Report this post



XY
Two years ago
12:26 30 Nov 15

Reply #567445

re: Kobe announces he will retire at end of season

Kobe started/created those comparisons.

Jordan finished his career averaging an incredible nearly 50FG% - amazing for a volume scorer. Something Kobe did not achieve in any season.


Report this post



+ - is for nerds
Two years ago
12:38 30 Nov 15

Reply #567449

re: Kobe announces he will retire at end of season

Jordan didnt have 3 season ending injuries either.

Quit hating on Kobe dickbags - still the greatest player of his generation.


Report this post



XY
Two years ago
12:43 30 Nov 15

Reply #567451

re: Kobe announces he will retire at end of season

That generation overlaps way too much with LeBron to be true.

Jordan had one season ending injury and two significant career breaks, which is probably equivalent.

An impressive career yes, which in my view he would have been wise to call to a halt some time ago. But too much $$ in LA invested in him being the face of the franchise (to the detriment of on court success).


Report this post



Anonymous
Two years ago
12:45 30 Nov 15

Reply #567452

re: Kobe announces he will retire at end of season

You'd have to have a pretty narrow definition of 'generation'
How many MVPs did Kobe win? Just 1 right?


Report this post



RMQ
Two years ago
12:53 30 Nov 15

Reply #567454

re: Kobe announces he will retire at end of season

Every kid growing up wanted to be like Jordan. Kobe was the same. Only difference is, he was the best at it.

His whole career has been a homage to Mike.


Report this post



Anonymous
Two years ago
13:01 30 Nov 15

Reply #567456

re: Kobe announces he will retire at end of season

haha is that correct?
Kobe only won 1 MVP?
LOL
Poor Kobe!


Report this post



Anonymous
Two years ago
13:04 30 Nov 15

Reply #567458

re: Kobe announces he will retire at end of season

1 MVP more than the LOL troll.
Top 10 of all time easily


Report this post



XY
Two years ago
13:20 30 Nov 15

Reply #567468

re: Kobe announces he will retire at end of season

His retirement announcement game is not pretty to start. LA with 5 points on 0-9 shooting (Kobe 0-4) half way through the first period.


Report this post



XY
Two years ago
13:47 30 Nov 15

Reply #567478

re: Kobe announces he will retire at end of season

#567458

I disagree that he is "Top 10 of all time easily"

In the mix, but even based purely on MVPs won you have:

Bob Pettit (2)
Bill Russell (5)
Wilt Chamberlain (4)
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (6)
Moses Malone (3)
Larry Bird (3)
Earvin 'Magic' Johnson (3)
Michael Jordan (5)
Karl Malone (2)
Steve Nash (2)
Tim Duncan (2)
LeBron James (4)

That is leaving out guys like Oscar Robertson or Shaquille O'Neal who only won one.

In my view there is a case for Kobe in the top-20 to 25 of all time, diminishing with every game he plays!

B.t.w, Kobe now 1-10 today. Can he beat his 1-17 from the other day?


Report this post



Anonymous
Two years ago
14:05 30 Nov 15

Reply #567487

re: Kobe announces he will retire at end of season

1-14 the other day I think it was not that I want to defend the guy!


Report this post



XY
Two years ago
14:16 30 Nov 15

Reply #567492

re: Kobe announces he will retire at end of season

Not that I want to harp (although I am enjoying this), but the Lakers must be on some sort of record pace at half time:

Team: 11-49 (22.4%)

Kobe 2-15
Randle 0-4
Russell 2-7 (perhaps unfair to put in this company)
Nance Jr 1-5
World Peace 0-6
Young 0-3

Hibbert, Bass and Clarkson need to be sacked for actually trying to get the ball in the hoop.


Report this post



Tommy
Two years ago
15:56 30 Nov 15

Reply #567520

re: Kobe announces he will retire at end of season

XY - How is Kobe's case for being Top 20-25 all time diminishing with every game he plays? Is Kobe's play this season a time machine? Is he on the Lost island?

Is he shedding each of his accomplishments he's made in the last 20 years with every shot he misses this season? If so - how does this magic work? Is it science? Or just fantasy?


Report this post



Luuuc
Two years ago
16:02 30 Nov 15

Reply #567521

re: Kobe announces he will retire at end of season

For a second there I thought that was a reference to The Lost Islands, but then I realised it was just a reference to Lost :(


Report this post



XY
Two years ago
16:47 30 Nov 15

Reply #567532

re: Kobe announces he will retire at end of season

Tommy, its a legacy issue.

In 10 years, nobody is going to look back at Kobe's record and say he was a 46% shooter across his career*.

If you don't care about those things, so be it. Kobe clearly doesn't.


*So long as you exclude his latter years because he had injuries and had a poor team around him


Report this post



Kent Brockman
Two years ago
17:33 30 Nov 15

Reply #567548

re: Kobe announces he will retire at end of season

Who cares XY

You're starting to sound like that flog Ingles13. Kobe is #2 shooting guard of all time. Quit jumping online to try play down his contribution to basketball. Yes, so far this season kobes numbers are down.

I'll listen to the legends on espn sing the praises of Kobe - not some bitter child on a basketball forum talk about shot %

Kobe will be remembered in 100 years, I had to recheck your name before posting this.

Stick to space jam little boy.


Report this post



XY
Two years ago
17:48 30 Nov 15

Reply #567552

re: Kobe announces he will retire at end of season

Play nice Kent. I have no particular Kobe grudge. Still a top 20-25 player of all time as I was pleased to acknowledge.


Report this post



Anonymous
Two years ago
18:05 30 Nov 15

Reply #567560

re: Kobe announces he will retire at end of season

Kobe already retired starting from last season. Problem is that it's an on court retirement.


Report this post



Anonymous
Two years ago
09:57 1 Dec 15

Reply #567682

re: Kobe announces he will retire at end of season

XY - don't we all wish we had the amount of spare time you have on your hands #Troll


Report this post



XY
Two years ago
10:58 1 Dec 15

Reply #567697

re: Kobe announces he will retire at end of season

Got to love it when the Kobe apologists come out.


Report this post



+ - is for nerds
Two years ago
14:04 1 Dec 15

Reply #567746

re: Kobe announces he will retire at end of season

Kobe top 10 all day every day.

MJ
Kareem
Magic
Bird
Kobe
Shaq
Wilt
Robertson
West
Duncan

11th LeBron

Wilt is only in there because of his stats. If he played against Shaq he would be slaughtered. Wilt was 7 foot playing against midgets.
Lebron will be top 10 by the time he has finished but 2/6 in nba finals so far is hurting his legacy.

XY - i'd like to see your top 25 list if Kobe is 20-25

#Troll with a Kobe complex


Report this post



XY
Two years ago
15:21 1 Dec 15

Reply #567762

re: Kobe announces he will retire at end of season

I wouldn't put Kobe in the top 10 at the expense of LeBron for starters. 4x MVP, has been the best player in the world in a largely overlapping period with Kobe.

I didn't say Kobe would be between 20-25 (but on reflection I can see why you might think I did). Merely that he easily makes a top 20 or top 25 list. For what its worth, he is probably top 15, but you can't exclude any of the names you mentioned (plus LeBron, Russell, Moses Malone) being in front of him.

Having an opinion and being involved in a discussion about Kobe's legacy on the day he retires can only be dismissed as trolling if you have nothing of substance to contribute.


Report this post



Anonymous
Two years ago
18:33 1 Dec 15

Reply #567805

re: Kobe announces he will retire at end of season

I'd have Kobe over bird and Moses.

You can't just judge on MVPs alone XY

Just from memory Kobe has 9 times more all defensive teams
About 7 more all nba first teams
4 more championships

He's killing Moses. So what he got heaps of rebounds. He was massive and followed his own bricks 5 times in a row. No disrespect to Moses, he's just not ahead of Kobe.

Also, Lebron isn't there yet. Kobe battled the west for 20 years - lebrons had a sweet ride. my social team could win a few games in the east :)


Report this post



Anonymous
Two years ago
23:40 1 Dec 15

Reply #567836

re: Kobe announces he will retire at end of season

How do you know the Players Tribune is struggling to stay online, Isaac?


Report this post



Luuuc
Two years ago
00:29 2 Dec 15

Reply #567838

re: Kobe announces he will retire at end of season

When the article went up the website wasn't coping with the high volume of traffic. That's what Isaac was referring to.


Report this post



Anonymous
Two years ago
21:05 5 Dec 15

Reply #569191

re: Kobe announces he will retire at end of season

judging a player purely on MVP's lol. Do you know who votes for them, the media? Yeah leave the debate the east coast biased media. The voting media barely watched Kobe's full games during his career due to 90% of his games finishing at 1am, if you laugh at that you don't understand the industry well enough.


Report this post



Anonymous
Two years ago
00:08 6 Dec 15

Reply #569213

re: Kobe announces he will retire at end of season

What are Kobe dickriders gonna do when he retires once they finish crying in a corner for a few months


Report this post



Anonymous
Two years ago
21:20 6 Dec 15

Reply #569424

re: Kobe announces he will retire at end of season

^ wow you're funny.


Report this post



Anonymous
Two years ago
21:23 6 Dec 15

Reply #569426

re: Kobe announces he will retire at end of season

Found the Kobe fan/ idiot


Report this post



Anonymous
Two years ago
22:03 6 Dec 15

Reply #569435

re: Kobe announces he will retire at end of season

classic. hate always = blindness. might be decades until you find a player great enough to waste your life to hate on.


Report this post



Anonymous
Two years ago
22:29 6 Dec 15

Reply #569445

re: Kobe announces he will retire at end of season

Your superstar went 4-19 today. What an absolute jet. The league will be so much worse without him


Report this post



Anonymous
Two years ago
22:38 6 Dec 15

Reply #569451

re: Kobe announces he will retire at end of season

Actually he didn't play today. Like i said hate always = blindness. Thanks for backing up my statement


Report this post



Anonymous
Two years ago
22:40 6 Dec 15

Reply #569453

re: Kobe announces he will retire at end of season

Yesterday. Doesn't change the fact he's shooting 30% on probably close to 30 shots


Report this post



Anonymous
Two years ago
22:41 6 Dec 15

Reply #569454

re: Kobe announces he will retire at end of season

like talking to a brick wall


Report this post



Anonymous
Two years ago
22:42 6 Dec 15

Reply #569456

re: Kobe announces he will retire at end of season

Continue blindly following this superstar game changer.

Maybe next year you can be a fan of someone who changes games for the better


Report this post





 

Reply to this topic

Name Email

Random name suggestion for anonymous posters: Pallas 56

Title
Rules: You must read the Terms of Use. No spam, no offensive material, no sniping at other clubs, no 'who cares?'-type comments, no naming or bashing under 18 players. Learn how to embed YouTube videos or tweets
Message

Please proof-read your post before submitting as you will not be able to edit it afterwards.
 


Liam Flynn - basketball coaching and consulting

Recent Posts

.

.


An Australian basketball forum covering NBL, WNBL, ABL, Juniors plus NBA, WNBA, NZ, Europe, etc | Forum time is: 3:26 pm, Wed 26 Apr 2017 | Posts: 655,271 | Last 7 days: 693