LV
Years ago

Cats vs United, 10/12

On recent form, this is a comfortable win to the Cats.

Further to that, the Cats have a great record against the smaller, high scoring teams like the Hawks and 36ers- to whom United shares similarities. The Cats have dominated those sides on the glass- it's the teams with the bigger bodies and the rebounders to match them who have worried them- Cairns, the Breakers. And the Crocs, who are the hustle Kings of the competition and never, ever give up.

If United wants to win this, these are some of the keys:

- Majok needs to hold his own against Jawai.
- Keep the Cats off the offensive glass. If the Cats get 12 or less O Boards - 3 a quarter- then I’ll consider that a big success for United.
- Defend well against Beal- when he has struggled, the Cats have struggled.

For the Cats, they need to stick with what’s been working and unless United goes off from outside, then you’d think they’ll be in first spot by the end of the night. Pound it inside first, keep the intensity on the glass, take the threes when they get open looks.

Despite my pessimism, I can’t wait.

Thoughts?

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Ugly Igley  
Years ago

Cats by 9

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Matt  
Years ago

Cats by 3

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Cats by 93

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RMQ  
Years ago

Prathers arrives tonight.

35 points.

Cats win by 5.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

United easy

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Cats too big and strong inside.

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OKC  
Years ago

Cats by 12.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Prather is out by all reports

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Deez  
Years ago

Anon, Prather has been confirmed to play :)

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AngusH  
Years ago

Only Perth can make me cheer for Melbourne..............

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Anonymous  
Years ago

So many fowlz

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Mr bEn  
Years ago

Since he finally got a haircut, Knight reminds me of Andy Lee.

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three points  
Years ago

Perth defence is much better this quarter.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

HES ON FIAAHHHHHHHH

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three points  
Years ago

Beal in full flight is a great player

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LV  
Years ago

Beal outscored United 18-12 in that quarter

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Goddamit my stream just cut out at the buzzer

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three points  
Years ago

Beal what can you say

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Another Anon  
Years ago

Beal-Prather best import combo in the league now?

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three points  
Years ago

The Breakers tandom is pretty damn good to.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

UNited are the most overrated team in NBL history.

Really, when you think about it, unless Goulding is shooting a 3 from 2 feet behind the arc with a hand in his face, this team has nothing else.

They have absolutely nothing around the rim.

If the 3s dont fall, they absolutely nothing else...NOTHING.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

That's why lock in another epic NZ v Perth GF series

Wish it could be 5 games

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LV  
Years ago

Well this season is getting boring real quick. It's starting to look like only Illawarra will stand a chance of challenging Perth and NZ. So much for this exciting even season

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Anonymous  
Years ago

NOt sure who is the worst coach atm. Wright or Demopolous.

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three points  
Years ago

Perth's 3rd quarters this season have been horrid so the United must make their move now.

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three points  
Years ago

Beal wow

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Another Anon  
Years ago

Holy. ...I'll have what Beal's having.

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Kyrie2Nation  
Years ago

DOLLA DOLLA BEAL ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Well thats Beals flukey game for the season done and dusted..

He wont have another game like this again this season.

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Kobe24  
Years ago

Hate me some Perth Wildcats but LOVE ME some Jermaine Beal!

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three points  
Years ago

Beal is on another planet

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Anonymous  
Years ago

black guys losing their minds.gif

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Most good players have a night where everything drops....and they wont repeat it...

Its Beals tonight

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6ers  
Years ago

When he is on he and Webster are the best two scorers in the league.....

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Anonymous  
Years ago

THis is one of the great shooting displays

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6ers  
Years ago

Wow the 6ers need to throw the kitchen sink at him this offseason.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

LOl Heal thinks it's a 16 point lead

lololololololol

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Anonymous  
Years ago

WHere was this from Beal where they got there backsides kicked against the Breakers in NZ?

Didnt get lucky?

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AngusH  
Years ago

Oh hey look, that Warrick guy with NBA experience might be able to generate some offense.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Just when it was all going so well for us...

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Kobe24  
Years ago

Knight was overdue for another serious injury. SMH

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Warrick bringing teh NBA

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Anonymous  
Years ago

ooohh

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AngusH  
Years ago

That missed dunk and fall just about sums up Blanchfield's season since game 1.

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LV  
Years ago

Key stat illustrating the difference between these teams tonight

Assists 15 to 5

Hope Blanchfields ok...

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6ers  
Years ago

Beal had 18 points in the 1st half in the breakers game in nz finished with 23 anon.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

dis shooting doe

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I don't think I've seen many imports improve to the degree Prather has this season

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Its beyond hilarious how teams are soooooo good at home, yet absolutely trash on the road in this league....

Never seen anything like it in any sport .

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LV  
Years ago

Holt had 23 in first half against Sydney and finished with.... 23.

But I'm pretty sure that 1 and a half quarters from Beal is the best quarter and a half anyone a produced this season

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truth  
Years ago

Perth has the most rod wins this season but don't let the facts get in the way of a an agenda

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Another Anon  
Years ago

@570303 you watch any test cricket? Nobody wins away from home.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Hey Truth

How is United on the road?

How is NZ on the road?

How is Adelaide on the road?

How is Taipans on the road?

How is Illawarra on the road?

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truth  
Years ago

This team or this game reminds of the Cats 2014 championship team. Two good imports and a explosive offence and defensive team.

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Kyrie2Nation  
Years ago

Record breaker. TEN three pointers.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

DOLAR DOLAR BEEL YAAAAWLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

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Anonymous  
Years ago

How many does Kobe have? 14?

Let's go for that Beelz

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Kickert quietly seeing it like a hoola hoop too

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Anonymous  
Years ago

3 ball corner pocket

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truth  
Years ago

If it weren't for kicker perth would be up by 40 plus

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Anonymous  
Years ago

^^^^^^^^
truth

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PeterJohn  
Years ago

if it weren't for Beal they'd be behind!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

you suck Beal

delist

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Anonymous  
Years ago

beal go for 40

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Anonymous  
Years ago

40 points wow

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Anonymous  
Years ago

26 threes for the game

Not bad for entertainment

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Make that 27

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Vague seems like a good prospect

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Anonymous  
Years ago

United got smashed after quarter time. Perth with the most impressive game of the year.Outscored 98 to 52 after quarter time. wow

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Anonymous  
Years ago

98 to 62 I meant

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Anonymous  
Years ago

That was epic

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Another Anon  
Years ago

Importantly Perth's bigs got rest before tough road trip and Martin got valuable match time (and still looks like he could win DPOY)

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Anonymous  
Years ago

No one is remotely close to Martin's level defensively.

He should just win it by default every year.

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Jo  
Years ago

Well done Gleeson and team

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Dazz  
Years ago

Wow, haven't seen a "flag favourite" team get their ass kicked like that in a while.
Cats lost Knight, ran the bench, brought in the DPs, went looking for Beal and then Hire, and still managed 34 points in that final quarter.

Really poor defensive effort from MU, they could rue that if they're trying to claw back the split later on.

Goulding clearly has the skill to be one of the best players in the league. Maybe he should just concentrate on playing, instead of constantly looking for a foul.
Seriously, what sort of twat flops AFTER he's already received the call?

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Kobe24  
Years ago

Guess the conspiracy theory about MU being gifted the title was blown out of the water this past few weeks, what a fall from grace of late. Never in it tonight.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Will Melbourne United miss the play-offs? Most had them as a fringe play-off team to start and now this is proving to be the case.

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bo  
Years ago

Perth's Import pairing is pretty handy at the minute. Then you have a loaded bench where you can bring guys like Redhage(still playing at a good level even in limited minutes) Jervis(starting calibare C)Wagstaff(could start on a lot of teams) and Kenny whom has proven to be a very handy player this season.

Not even going to mention the frontline pairing of Knight and Jawai and the best defensive player the league has ever seen in Damo.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Beal getting buckets

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paul  
Years ago

Damo had a down defensive season by his standards last year but it doesn't look like he'll repeat that dose!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Cheers Luc

Man wish I had have been there tonight

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Give Gleeson a lot of Credit for sticking with Prather early on when he was injured and struggling with his shot.

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three points  
Years ago

Damo is back to his awesome best. I don't think it is a coincidence since he has back in the starting lineup again Perth's average wining margin is 25 in the games against Adelaide and the United?

Perth is averaging 101 points to 76 against with Damo as a starter. Having him back also allows Beal to get back to what he does best and that is to look to score. With Damo he(Beal) had to do the bulk of the playmaking along with the scoring.

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LV  
Years ago

Dazz FYI New Zealand were installed as favourites earlier this week.

Just thinking of my OP. Stopping Beal was one of my keys. Oops. Didn't go so well....

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Matthew  
Years ago

Holy Hell that was good. Was so buzzing after the game

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Vic Wildcat  
Years ago

What a shooting display, i can only think of a couple of other players i've seen in NBL capable of that type of shooting, one was commentating the game Heal and Andrew Gaze. You'd be surprised if Beal did that again,although he has shown glimpses this year. Recent game in NZ he started to heat up in the 2nd. Last night was one of those nights for him where everything went right for the whole game.

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Nathan of Perth  
Years ago

So glad I was there to see that.

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Nathan of Perth  
Years ago

Also how absurd is it to have 40pts 7a, but no turnovers?

And props to Kickert as well, he had a massive shooting night, 5/6 from 3pt range.

For a little fun, there was a point mid-way through the game where the passed the ball to Hadziomerovic and prepared to let him run the play, which left Damo on him for the first time that I could recall that night. I straight away thought "You can't leave that kid with Damo, he'll get eaten alive". Damo made the steal about half a second later.

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paul  
Years ago

What was so amazing was how he just rolled with it. Was feeling hot so just kept shooting no matter where he was on the court, then just seemed to feed off the crowd and get more and more brazen. Awesome stuff.

Apparently he hit eight threes in a seven minute stretch and outscored Melbourne by himself!

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PeterJohn  
Years ago

" i can only think of a couple of other players i've seen in NBL capable of that type of shooting"

Beal shot 10/19 3 pointers last night. The past 2 seasons with Perth he's had 3 games where he's taken more than 10 3-pt shots in a game - 8/15 vs NZ in Dec 2013; 6/11 vs Topwnsville in Nov 2014 and 2/11 vs Cairns in Feb 2015.

Historically John Rillie, Phil Smyth, Paul Stanley, Darryl Pearce, Andrew Parkinson, Shane Heal, Michael Johnson and Ian Davies are some who immediately come to mind as producing those sorts of performances on multiple occasions. Maybe Lanard Copeland, Stephen Black, Simon Kerle, Ron Radliff, David Graham and Greg Hubbard - not so certain about them? These players though did so mostly when the 3-pt line was closer to the basket.

Of current players, Goulding (9/14 vs Sydney in Mar 2014), Penney (8/11 vs Cairns in Sep 2009, 9/15 vs Adelaide Jan 2010) and Forman (8/12 vs Sydney in March 2014, 7/7 vs NZ in Feb 2012) have had similarly good 3 point shooting games in the past few seasons.

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Vic Wildcat  
Years ago

I'm more talking about where he was taking them from, not No's PeterJohn.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Yeah some of those shots - especially a couple in the 3rd quarter - were from crazy range.
Was fitting that Hammer was on commentary duties for that performance.

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Nathan of Perth  
Years ago

Yeah, one that was on my side of the court, he got the ball waaay out from the line after someone fumbled a pass and he just paused a moment and you could see him just think, "Why the eff not?"

Made it. They were stupendous shots.

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Happy Customer  
Years ago

What a great first game at the Arena for me..

Haven't been to a game since the 90's.

Crowd was crazy.

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Train  
Years ago

That was an amazing game by Perth. Beal is scary when his confidence gets going and he knocks a couple of shots down. One of the greatest shooting displays of recent times.

Beal is the perfect second import when you have a player of Ennis or Prather calibre alongside him. Last year he really struggled because Daniels was a crab and didn't draw any attention. Teams were just shutting him down. This year Perth have way too many options for that. It will be interesting to see how he goes in the next few games after a game like that.

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paul  
Years ago

My favourite one was where he came over on help and picked Goulding's pocket, raced to a spot somewhere within a metre or two of the arc and just popped it. Was never going to miss.

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Train  
Years ago

Also to note....7 assists is crazy for a player that dropped 40 points. Dream team points are looking great for that game, if only i Captained him :P

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"Last year he really struggled because Daniels was a crab and didn't draw any attention."

Exactly. People were saying that Perth needed to fix their shooting woes by bringing in a shooter. No, they needed to bring in a guy who could get to the basket to open up the court for their shooters. Thats what they did.

Snaring Jawai at the last minute helped too...

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Nathan of Perth  
Years ago

@Train,

40 pts, 7 assists and *NO turnovers* is nuts.

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Ricky  
Years ago

So many weapons, still waiting for Jawai to have a monster game, but i feel foul trouble / lack of good post game / stamina is an issue..

Refs seem to ref him so badly..

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PeterJohn  
Years ago

Fair enough Vic Wildcat - I apologise

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Ricky  
Years ago

Some good news, Matt Knight's injury not serious.

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2015/12/11/melbourne-utd-coach-hurt-heavy-loss

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LV  
Years ago

When did the 3 point line Get moved? What were the old dimensions vs New?

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Knight went through training today and is ok.

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koberulz  
Years ago

When did the 3 point line Get moved? What were the old dimensions vs New?
After the 2009/10 season, it moved out about a foot and a half.

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Dazz  
Years ago

In terms of excelling in his targeted role, Prather is (apparently) exactly what the Cats wanted, and it shows. He's the perfect partner for Beal.
Unlike DD, he's a genuine 3-point threat, so we no longer have Beal as the only outside option.
(Plus as has been mentioned, Jawai is creating space for everyone.)
DD was a fair bit taller, and a more certain option going for the dunk, but Prather is more than ok. He's never gonna post-up, but DD was weak in that area. Where Prather is streets ahead is in his defence and his ability to run the floor and handle the ball.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

'In terms of excelling in his targeted role, Prather is (apparently) exactly what the Cats wanted, and it shows. He's the perfect partner for Beal.
Unlike DD, he's a genuine 3-point threat, so we no longer have Beal as the only outside option.'

Huh?

ABout the only thing Daniels did well was shoot the three. Couldn't drive and finish to save his life (outside of a few open dunks).

'Luckily' Prather is proving to be an excellent 3 and D guy in all facets.

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Dazz  
Years ago

Is that you again Mrs Beveridge?

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