Luuuc
Years ago

Taipans vs Wildcats, Dec 17

First time Perth have played @ Cairns this season.



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Matthew  
Years ago

Hey.. are you the same Luuuc that posted the awesome Beal 3' point academy video? If so awesome work.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Yes that was me.
Thanks. Glad you liked it.

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Train  
Years ago

That graphic is awesome :P

Danger game here for the Cats, I think Cairns are like 8-3 their in recent times.

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Hansi  
Years ago

While Perth being the better team I get a sneaking feeling the Taipans have more riding on this game and will win while Perth dose not have as much on the line and wont be as desperate.

Taipans by 6

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Luuuc  
Years ago

In games like this there's also that danger that the Cats will be looking ahead to the Crocs game and trying to keep something in reserve.

I'm also interested to see how the Cats pulled up from last round, health-wise. Something seems to have been odd to me about Kenny's minutes lately, and we know Prather is having trouble with his knee.

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Matthew  
Years ago

Cats by 9. Jawai to destroy Cairns after he beats Godzilla.

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mystro  
Years ago

I can't see Cairns beating Perth's front court .

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LV  
Years ago

Cairns matches up well against Perth

Cairns has legit size and muscle, meaning that Perth can't overpower them on the inside quite like they have against the Hawks, 36ers and UTD.

Cairns is also 5-1 at home this season.

On the other hand, Perth's D and rebounding is at a consistently good level so they will rarely get substantially beaten.

I'm tipping this goes down to the final minute.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

FWIW, the only time we've played this season was in Perth, when the Wildcats escaped with a 1 point win.
That was without Damo.

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Matthew  
Years ago

Activate Martin!
Turbines to speed!

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Camel 31  
Years ago

Oh my goodness!. Now that I have caught my breath, after seeing that,Perth deserve to win.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Cairns: $2.25
Perth: $1.65
Line: 2.5 pts
O/U: 166.5 pts

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Dazz  
Years ago

Definitely a danger game for Perth. Ostensibly they are the better team, but Cairns are no slouches and have the home advantage. Can easily see this going either way.

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Jack Toft  
Years ago

Very much the danger game for the Cats who tend to be lazy on the road for "non-important games"

Can see Cairns getting this one on the last play

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Julienn Giii  
Years ago

Will Prather play ??

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Ugly Igley  
Years ago

Close affair, Perth by 4.

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Bear  
Years ago

An upset is always on the cards, especially this season, what a great NBL we are enjoying, but I think the Wildcats may just hang on here for a close win!

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Jack Toft  
Years ago

Perth to be friendzoned

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AngusH  
Years ago

Burston is a lot of things, but a sole defender against Jawai in the post should not be one of them.

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AngusH  
Years ago

A guy Jawai's size should never bother trying to drive in the NBL, because you just know it's going to be a charging foul.

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AngusH  
Years ago

Nice block by Wortho, surprised Prather didn't throw that down.

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Hansi  
Years ago

Ugly game which suits the Snakes

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6ers  
Years ago

home town call

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6ers  
Years ago

Hire is a scrub who is only good for fouls

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Indoorkite  
Years ago

And dumb fouls. He's definitely dropped off this year.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

When you're blocking a shot that easily, why not just control it to your own advantage rather than batting it 20 metres away.

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Indoorkite  
Years ago

Someone buy Starks some new skins.

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6ers  
Years ago

Kenny with the ball is a turnover waiting to happen

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6ers  
Years ago

these refs are clearly calling anything for the Taipans

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cats fan  
Years ago

Is Knight injured again?

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Kyrie2Nation  
Years ago

Perth are lazy and playing terrible. Almost like they don't give a shit.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

This team is a joke at the minute. The offence looks like crap

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Not sure what Gleeson coaches on offence but it's turnovers and no spacing

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Prather needs to attack the basket non stop. He will either draw a double or a foul. If he draws a double ha can kick it out to the open man or he force teams into fouL trouble

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Tim  
Years ago

His on top of the ladder, game not over yet, ( we read your post Anonymous so anti Gleeson)

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AngusH  
Years ago

Prather seems to pass out of the shot off the drive a lot for a guy who can basically get to the hoop at will.

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Indoorkite  
Years ago

He's starting to overuse the euro step. It's too easily predicted now.

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james  
Years ago

Beal having is having a really bad game

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AngusH  
Years ago

AGreed re: the euro step... if you're gaurding Prather on the break you just step in front of the basket.

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james  
Years ago

Taipans cant play any better then this while Perth are paying in second gear. Stay close and catch fire late.

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Indoorkite  
Years ago

Fucking hell nbl. This league would be so good if it weren't for the refs.

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Kyrie2Nation  
Years ago

Cringe-worthy from the Cats tonight.

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George  
Years ago

Yep. NBL. 1v 6. 6 winning at 3/4 time.58-49. Taipans great. Cats average. Another upset brewing

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Luuuc  
Years ago

14 wildcat turnovers in 3 quarters. I'm a little surprised. Seems like even more.

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AngusH  
Years ago

When the Wildcats don't have one perimeter player playing out of his mind from behind the arc they look a lot like the team I expected them to be before the season began.

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AngusH  
Years ago

Hire is making it a lot easier to tell him and Wagstaff apart on the court this year - Hire is the one that plays like shite.

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George  
Years ago

3 pointers killing Cats tonight.

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Kyrie2Nation  
Years ago

Beal has had 4 shots so far!!!

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james  
Years ago

perth pentenders

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AngusH  
Years ago

...yeah, probably throw that one down Prather.

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George  
Years ago

Can someone explain Martins role for the Cats to me? Please!!! Why is a guard in a team & this guy has only taken 3 shots all game. Am I missing something here?

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Missed open layup, missed dunk... Sometimes it just ain't your night

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Kyrie2Nation  
Years ago

Martin isn't accumulating stats like he normally does.

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AngusH  
Years ago

Every minute Martin has been on the court this season he has pretty much been recovering from an injury, but he's a reluctant scorer even when healthy. It's just that he usually ends up with 8 rebounds, 4 assists, and 6 steals to go with his 4 points. Not so much this year.

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Kyrie2Nation  
Years ago

Martin isn't even getting assists. Mostly Jawai and Beal are.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Martin pretty much sucks. Lucky to be in the NBL.

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AngusH  
Years ago

It's the hair that keeps him in the league, IMO.

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james  
Years ago

Big knight

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knighty knight  
Years ago

Perth has played well below what they can play.

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Kyrie2Nation  
Years ago

Diabolical last possession from Cairns.

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6ers  
Years ago

Defence has been good

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AngusH  
Years ago

Bruce was unlucky not to have an easy 2, but not sure about that play from Wortho... either take Wagtstaff to the hoop, or give it off to a guard.

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6ers  
Years ago

Seeing Worthington stuff it is allways great

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6ers  
Years ago

prather choke

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Wortho going the hero play on a step back 3... I'll take those odds

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6ers  
Years ago

Is starks or injured?

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Yes, ice pack on the hammy

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Perth's last quarter defence especially in the last 4 minutes was insane.

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Kyrie2Nation  
Years ago

Terrible game and how Perth won I'll never know, they were in second gear all game and got the W.

I guess if Starks didn't get injured the result may have been different.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Defence won.

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AngusH  
Years ago

Considering how well Starks started the game, definitely.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Beal had a shocker, Knight outside of the game winner was terribe, Prather was pretty poor.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Won't win any awards for pretty basketball, but I'll happily take the road win.
Taipans will be kicking themselves for letting that one slip away. Didn't think the cats particularly deserved it.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

$ Beal should be may $0.75 less GST and inconsistency.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Must be great to have a guy like Wagstaff coming off the bench.

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three points  
Years ago

The idiot who was bashing Trevor is pretty quiet now?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

No reason to get too excited with Cairns havin the loss of 1 import.
No wonder Perth fans are considered arrogant.

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Heaters  
Years ago

@ Anonymous #571349

Don't confuse confidence that comes from winning 6 titles as arrogance. If you're not sure what arrogance looks like just ask Wortho - he wrote the book on it.

Ugly game for sure and agree that the referring is absolutely destroying the NBL.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Great to hear that the Cats have won 3 titles in the last 15 years? 3 titles in the 90's means exactly what in the 21st century? Your point is?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Perth has been in 5 grand finals for two titles from 2000 till now. Had it not been for key injuries probaly would have had a few more tites especially in 2011 and 2012.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

3 titles

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Train  
Years ago

I don't know why anyone is surprised with how this game was played. Perth V Cairns games are traditionally a low scoring slug fest. Game could of gone either way tonight but Perh have the benefit of going into that higher gear when it matters.

Huge game coming up for Perth sat night vs Crocs.
Cairns can pretty much say goodbye to their finals hopes unfortunately.

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Marcus Camby  
Years ago

@Anon'349

Can you show us where Perth fans were arrogant about the win?

The known Cats fans' comments above pretty much concede that it was an ugly win, possibly even fortunate with Stark's injury.

If anything they have been humble about the getting out of there with a W.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Perth has 3 key games on the road coming up. Crocs, United and Cairns again. If they can get a 2-1 record that leaves them in a good position(15-6) because of their run home is fantastic with a spades of home games.

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Dazz  
Years ago

What the [email protected]$%& do people want?
Cairns is a dammn good defensive team (or at least they are against the Cats). Blowouts where Beal drains 40 and the team 100+ are the exception, not the rule.
This was a typical hard-fought class between these two teams, and I for one am absolutely stoked to get the win. Very handy to bank that road win at the start of their trip.

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Winning ugly is still winning, we looked uninterested for the majority of the game. Championship calibre teams find a way to win even when they are playing poorly. Alot of players were well done last night, but happy to take a win anytime.

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mystro  
Years ago

Tough teams win tough games.

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PeterJohn  
Years ago

"Cairns is a dammn good defensive team"

Used to be. Not this year. Against anyone.

Only Sydney and Illawarra give up more points per game. Cairns have a positive points split against only one team - Melbourne (+3).

Their defence has been rubbish compared to Cairns teams of the last 4 years.

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LV  
Years ago

Cky that Cairns threw away their lead by missing open shots in that last 5 minutes.

They're also lucky that Cairns’ leading scorer and main finisher at the death- Starks- went down with an injury in the first half.

A win’s a win, of course, but Gleeson would be mostly unhappy with the Cats effort last night.

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LV  
Years ago

That meant to say....

Perth's lucky* that...

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paul  
Years ago

"Used to be. Not this year. Against anyone.

Only Sydney and Illawarra give up more points per game. Cairns have a positive points split against only one team - Melbourne (+3).

Their defence has been rubbish compared to Cairns teams of the last 4 years."


If you look a little deeper you'll get a better picture. The Taipans are conceding 77.7 points/40 minutes at home compared to 92.1 on the road. So in Cairns they are a good defensive team.

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Perth's D was pretty solid too in the final few.

Wortho may have been the top scorer but he also cost his team the game. He gets too involved in his personal battles at times and he picked a really bad time to do it.

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"When the Wildcats don't have one perimeter player playing out of his mind from behind the arc they look a lot like the team I expected them to be before the season began."

Thats complete crap. They've won games this year by slowing it to a grind, matching it with the high scoring fast break teams, and of course we had Beal and Wagstaff with the hot hands in the previous two games. This "unbalanced" line up has started clicking in the past 8 games and I don't think they've been a one man show in all but two of those games.

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paul  
Years ago

Wortho was also outstanding defensively, and got a bum call from Chris Reid when Martin ran through his screen (Reid then stood a couple of metres away from Jawai's pick which had a little more movement than Wortho's and let it go).

Hedid get caught up for a few possessions, but there's no way Worthington cost them the game, Damo just hit a tough three at the end of that little duel which I'm sure Fearne would have been happy for him to shoot.

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paul  
Years ago

Agree re the Wildcats not relying on an individual, they've got incredible depth and they utilise it well.

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Bad call on Wortho aside, he set a rough pick on Martin in the backcourt just prior to that which was let go. It fired Martin up an it resulted in him smashing him back (unusual for Martin) which was the offensive foul. Even though Martin went through him, Wortho still went for another moving/late screen and the refs didn't let him get away with it again.

I think he gets distracted when he decides to impose his presence on someone that he has decided to target, and doing that in the final three minutes is dumb.

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paul  
Years ago

He got distracted, but all he actually did was get what looked like a bad call and then fire Damo up into shooting a three, which would usually be a good result for Cairns. If you look at how good Wortho was at both ends during the game, you might see he gave them the chance to win.

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He normally gets in to one of these battles in the first half. He chose to do it with three minutes to go. Bad timing.

Fair call, he was their best player, not just top scorer.

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paul  
Years ago

Agree he let it get to him too much at a really important time. He should know better at his age, but a chance to go off at the refs seems to be too good to refuse.

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Matthew  
Years ago

Martin was quoted in the WEst Australian newspaper today that his team was essentially outplayed for 3 quarters.

He is also occasionally on Sport FM during the week, hopefully possible today or tomorrow.

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koberulz  
Years ago

"Only Sydney and Illawarra give up more points per game. Cairns have a positive points split against only one team - Melbourne (+3).

Their defence has been rubbish compared to Cairns teams of the last 4 years."


What does points differential have to do with defence?

Points per game is also affected by pace. Come back when you have DRtgs.

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paul  
Years ago

D-ratings are handy but limited by not measuring ability to slow pace defensively nor generate offence from defence.

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Dazz  
Years ago

If you look a little deeper you'll get a better picture. The Taipans are conceding 77.7 points/40 minutes at home compared to 92.1 on the road. So in Cairns they are a good defensive team.

Correct, and this was the first time they have played Perth in Cairns this season. Whatever the reason, they seem to match up very well against Perth, and close games are the norm.
Cairns are not where they were at last season, they will probably miss the finals, no Wilbekin is a big part of that, but they are still capable of forcing some close games.

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Dazz  
Years ago

Both Beal and Knight had quiet games, and that is reflected in the total score, but fortunately we had enough of a spread to still get the job done.
Nobody is pretending it was pretty, but a win is a win.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

If the Kings had any idea they woud be offering Wagstaff a big deal to lure him back home. The guy is a winner. He just all the little things to get his team over the line.

Give him a bigger offensive role and you got a great player.

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Matthew  
Years ago

I think Wagstaff is gonna be a one club player. He would look at Sydney and see the turnover of coaches they have had, and the resources he has at the Wildcats (and now where they (Kings) are going to play).

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Kobe24  
Years ago

The money it'd take for Wagstaff to move wouldn't be worth it. Kings would have too over pay him to move from his pretty great gig in WA.

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PeterJohn  
Years ago

paul - yes, their defence is better at home than away. But this year they give up 10 more PPG at home than last year and 22 PPG more away.

Across the league, teams on average are giving up 1PPG more at home and 4PPG more away.

I stand by my view that "Their defence has been rubbish compared to Cairns teams of the last 4 years."

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paul  
Years ago

Have you actually looked at their defensive performance the past four years? Because it wasn't great in 2013/14 and it's usually linked to their offence.

For mine, when Wilson and Wilbekin were controlling the offence the D was good, when they rely too much on motion sets they open up transition for the oppo.

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Wildcats80  
Years ago

Funny how when the wildcats win, every excuse under the sun comes up, like injuries, or refs, seriously, time to give where credit is due, Perth are a contender and like other teams, have faced some adversity, whilst damp isn't big on scoring he is our leader and general, missed I believe 8 games, Prather has missed 3.

Gleeson bashers, on the telecast they said he has a record of 155-115 which isn't too bad at all.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

what was the crowd no. for this game?

on the tv coverage they had a graphic and it said 3700 something

but can't find it now anywhere in print online

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Dazz  
Years ago

Lure Wagstaff "home"? I have NEVER met a Canberran would would consider Sydney home.

Besides I don't think he would leave Perth unless pushed. He does very well coming off the bench for Perth, and sometimes he excels and is a game-winner for them. We always hoped he would become a starter, but its looking less likely.
He probably would find a gig starting for a lesser team, and do a passable job, but he's not the game-changer that you'd throw big money at.
Bench or not, he's won two 'ships with the Cats and every year they're in contention. Unless he is pushed out, it would take a big offer to move him, and I just don't see it being worth it.

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Dazz  
Years ago

what was the crowd no. for this game?
on the tv coverage they had a graphic and it said 3700 something

Austadiums is usually pretty good, but they don't have December's games at the Convention Centre for some reason.

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