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Luuuc
Two years ago

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Breakers vs Hawks, Dec 20

Great start by the Hawks in this one, raining down jumpers from everywhere in the first quarter.

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Frank Costanza's Lawyer
Two years ago
14:58 20 Dec 15

Reply #571577

re: Breakers vs Hawks, Dec 20

Breakers is full retard lazy as f*ck mode today .... Cedric Jackson in full corpse mode


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Luuuc
Two years ago
15:00 20 Dec 15

Reply #571578

re: Breakers vs Hawks, Dec 20

They got themselves back into it in the last few minutes after the 26-9 start. Well, at the offensive end at least. I think at the other end they're still kind of waiting for the Hawks to cool off rather than trying to make it happen. But fair enough ... they can't stay that hot all game.


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Anon
Two years ago
15:20 20 Dec 15

Reply #571579

re: Breakers vs Hawks, Dec 20

You can't beat a team who has a centre changing pivot foot and stepping a being rewarded for it. Yes the breakers are not playing the best but I would think it wouldn't matter. Since when do you call a travel on a a slip on the wet court too. Call a break and clean it up and side ball to continue play. God the reffing is horrible this season and appears to be influencing games and helping promote certain players.


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koberulz
Two years ago
15:21 20 Dec 15

Reply #571580

re: Breakers vs Hawks, Dec 20

Yeah, how can the Breakers be expected to be competitive if the refs are going to enforce the rules?


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ROFLcopter
Two years ago
15:22 20 Dec 15

Reply #571581

re: Breakers vs Hawks, Dec 20

Should be a good 2nd half


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:27 20 Dec 15

Reply #571583

re: Breakers vs Hawks, Dec 20

"Since when do you call a travel on a a slip on the wet court too."

I had the ball and fell over out of court once and the ref called out of bounds on me and gave the ball to the opposition.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:31 20 Dec 15

Reply #571586

re: Breakers vs Hawks, Dec 20

Breakers get away with murder on their floor. Refs just turn a blind eye to their elbows and shirt pulling.


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Hendo8888
Two years ago
15:35 20 Dec 15

Reply #571588

re: Breakers vs Hawks, Dec 20

I played on a court once that was just ridiculously dusty. Players were sliding all over the place. And the umps called travel every time.


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Kobe24
Two years ago
15:45 20 Dec 15

Reply #571590

re: Breakers vs Hawks, Dec 20

Hawks have done great to stop any initial run out of the half by the Breakers. They are starting to really roll this season! Smoky for the title


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Luuuc
Two years ago
15:56 20 Dec 15

Reply #571593

re: Breakers vs Hawks, Dec 20

"they can't stay that hot all game."

Ok, 3 quarters in and I stand seriously corrected.
Hawks showing no signs of slowing down. This is some pretty basketball.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:03 20 Dec 15

Reply #571595

re: Breakers vs Hawks, Dec 20

Great to see another NBL upset. Been a great season for upsets.


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Luuuc
Two years ago
16:11 20 Dec 15

Reply #571597

re: Breakers vs Hawks, Dec 20

Agreed. Even NZ at home can't take victories for granted. It's a good thing for the league.

And if they don't want to take top spot away from the Cats that's fine with me too.


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Luuuc
Two years ago
16:20 20 Dec 15

Reply #571599

re: Breakers vs Hawks, Dec 20

Kevin Lisch, what a game. 24 points @ 67%, 6 boards, 7 assists, 4 steals and a block.


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Touch the rim
Two years ago
16:26 20 Dec 15

Reply #571600

re: Breakers vs Hawks, Dec 20

Someone somewhere needs to be sacked


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Luuuc
Two years ago
16:27 20 Dec 15

Reply #571601

re: Breakers vs Hawks, Dec 20

Definitely. Breakers are a joke. Overrated. Grand finalists my arse. etc etc.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:45 20 Dec 15

Reply #571602

re: Breakers vs Hawks, Dec 20

"They are starting to really roll this season! Smoky for the title"

I lashed out and put $20 on them before the season started at $13.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:50 20 Dec 15

Reply #571603

re: Breakers vs Hawks, Dec 20

Where is blowout guy?


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Luuuc
Two years ago
17:13 20 Dec 15

Reply #571605

re: Breakers vs Hawks, Dec 20

"Where is blowout guy?"

No time to post here. To busy counting all his winnings from NZ's predictable thrashing of the travel-weary Hawks.


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Touch the rim
Two years ago
17:17 20 Dec 15

Reply #571606

re: Breakers vs Hawks, Dec 20

Bill Baxter's a funny bloke isn't he


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:34 20 Dec 15

Reply #571608

re: Breakers vs Hawks, Dec 20

"Bill Baxter's a funny bloke isn't he"

Almost as funny as a Cedric Jackson free throw!


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:39 20 Dec 15

Reply #571610

re: Breakers vs Hawks, Dec 20

Breakers had a hiccup. Bad one admittedly. But they will be around the GF series undoubtedly.


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Kobe24
Two years ago
19:11 20 Dec 15

Reply #571617

re: Breakers vs Hawks, Dec 20

If the Hawks shoot like that in the playoffs they won't be beaten. Scary stuff they didn't give the Breakers a chance today. Gotta love the NBL


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Dazz
Two years ago
23:27 20 Dec 15

Reply #571627

re: Breakers vs Hawks, Dec 20

Gees I wish we'd kept Lisch.
He must be in line for Naturalisation, with an Australian wife and child, and that would really open the way for the Hawks.
As it is, they are definite contenders this year. Shaping up to be a very intense 2nd half and finals, with 4 teams definitely in contention.


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mystro
Two years ago
10:52 21 Dec 15

Reply #571637

re: Breakers vs Hawks, Dec 20

Great game to watch, Hawks came out firing and shot the lights out and NZ were playing catch up for the rest of the game.
Having the long break didn't do NZ any favours and have looked just as flat in other games this season after a decent lay off.


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three points
Two years ago
12:39 21 Dec 15

Reply #571642

re: Breakers vs Hawks, Dec 20

I know the Cats 113 was the most points scored in a 40 minute game this season, but the Hawks 107 was far, far more impressive. Perth got that because of incredible long range shooting but the Hawks ball movement and spacing for Penny and Lisch to go to work was even more impressive. Plus the Opponent(Breakers) was far superior to the United.

Offence looked like a very well oiled machine.Crisp ball movement off the ball and superb spacing.If the Hawks can replicate that on a consistent basis they can win it all.


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Tyrell
Two years ago
15:46 21 Dec 15

Reply #571662

re: Breakers vs Hawks, Dec 20

As a Breakers fan I will say that the Hawks clearly outplayed us- they absolutely pulled our pants down.

A few reflections:
-Both teams shot above 50% from the field
-Breakers were very careless with the ball
Hawks
-8/19 from ft line for Breakers- this is becoming a serious issue
-Jackson/Pledger were barely used
-the lack of of a sideline play for the Breakers was terrible- even the commentator mentioned they can't rely on the guards to get free alone- how about some
Screens Deano? Two/three times there was a cheap turnover from a sideline pass

Finally, I'm not hitting the panic button, for the last couple of years we have been towlled up by Perth (this year it has been the Hawks) but have then come good in finals. The Hawks played VERY well but I don't think they could play much better and I think we will be okay!!

My 2 cents worth :)


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Dazz
Two years ago
16:20 21 Dec 15

Reply #571666

re: Breakers vs Hawks, Dec 20

I know the Cats 113 was the most points scored in a 40 minute game this season, but the Hawks 107 was far, far more impressive. Perth got that because of incredible long range shooting but the Hawks ball movement and spacing for Penny and Lisch to go to work was even more impressive. Plus the Opponent(Breakers) was far superior to the United.
Not sure how to manage to turn this into yet another Perth bashing thread, but I'll bite.
The 98 points scored in 30 minutes (against the team on top of the table) was the most impressive basketball I have seen in a long, long time.
And whilst Beal was unstoppable from beyond the arc, it was their points from turnovers and points inside that sealed the deal.


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Isaac
Two years ago
21:49 21 Dec 15

Reply #571686

re: Breakers vs Hawks, Dec 20

Perth were at home. Hawks beat the Breakers in NZ after having played already that round, and NZ were previously undefeated at home.


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LV
Two years ago
09:36 22 Dec 15

Reply #571697

re: Breakers vs Hawks, Dec 20

Illawarra's effort was more impressive.

Much of the Wildcats efforts were from Beal getting red hot and having the best individual shooting effort from anyone this season.

Even when he wasn't hitting the Shots himself, it was often Beal doing the damage- for example in the middle of his hot streak on one possession, Beal caught the ball 1.5 metres outside three. United sent two players to him, so he hit Redhage for the wide open three. That stat line is off the charts ridiculous- 40 points, 7 assists, no turnovers and shooting at around 60% from the field (He actually shot 10/19 from 3 and 14/26 overall but I'm ignoring the 3 misses he had in junk time, in quick succession when he was trying to break the 40 point mark).

And as has already been mentioned- Illawarra faced tougher opposition and were playing away from home, where no one had won this season.
Illawarra had multiple contributors all working seamlessly together.

Dazz if you take your Cats glasses off, you’ll see that it isn’t even close- Illawarra’s effort vz NZ was much more impressive than Perth’s vs Melb.


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LV
Two years ago
09:44 22 Dec 15

Reply #571698

re: Breakers vs Hawks, Dec 20

At the simplest level, think of it like this:

Perth played on their home court against an out of form United.

Illawarra travelled to NZ to play the hottest team in the competition, after already playing less than 48 hours prior.


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mystro
Two years ago
10:04 22 Dec 15

Reply #571699

re: Breakers vs Hawks, Dec 20

" how to manage to turn this into yet another Perth bashing thread, but I'll bite."

how about it just stays a "give the Hawks some credit" thread?


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Kobe24
Two years ago
10:06 22 Dec 15

Reply #571701

re: Breakers vs Hawks, Dec 20

Its just so easy to bash Perth Dazz thats how haha ;)


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LV
Two years ago
10:15 22 Dec 15

Reply #571702

re: Breakers vs Hawks, Dec 20

It's not about "bashing Perth", it’s just about giving credit where it’s due.

When United travelled to Perth they’d lost 4 of their last 6 games. In fact I’d suggest they’d played one impressive half of basketball in their last six outings (the first half vs Adelaide). So in reality, Perth took advantage of a team who was at a low ebb. (Which has continued since then)

And, as I’ve detailed on here exhaustively several times over the past few weeks, United’s 9-0 start was far less impressive than the win loss column suggests, if you choose to look a little deeper.

Whereas NZ were 9-2 since Webster’s arrival- the only losses being a 6 point loss in Perth, and a 1 point loss in Melbourne where they got a dodgy call in the dying seconds and were playing without Wesley and Vukona. In NZ, they’d been absolutely unstoppable this season. Yet Illawarra blew them off the court with 26 points in the first 6 minutes and never looked back. Penney was hitting shots, Lisch was doing everything and the whole team just looked like a well oiled machine. Offensively they’re the best team of the 40 minute era, and Sunday was their most impressive display to date.


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paul
Two years ago
10:46 22 Dec 15

Reply #571704

re: Breakers vs Hawks, Dec 20

I think if Illawarra keep playing the way they have in recent weeks they'll be a contender for best offensive line-up ever.


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Two years ago
11:08 22 Dec 15

Reply #571706

re: Breakers vs Hawks, Dec 20

Geez, even I didn't think it was a shot at the Wildcats...


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Luuuc
Two years ago
12:44 22 Dec 15

Reply #571713

re: Breakers vs Hawks, Dec 20

Even leaving aside where they were playing and who their opponents were, I agree that just from the "eye test" of the way they played, the Hawks win was the more impressive.

Not sure how anyone can interpret "The Wildcats performance was arguably the 2nd-most-impressive of the season" as being Perth bashing. Yikes.
Perth's win over Melbourne was far more than just one guy being unconscious from long range, but the Hawks game was a super impressive display right from the opening tip (which the Cats didn't manage), and it never really let up until the result was well beyond doubt.


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Luuuc
Two years ago
12:45 22 Dec 15

Reply #571714

re: Breakers vs Hawks, Dec 20

Wildcats-Hawks grand final!

Best offensive line-up ever vs most offensive line-up ever :p


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fstos
Two years ago
15:19 22 Dec 15

Reply #571726

re: Breakers vs Hawks, Dec 20

The Hawks impressive offense has been spoken about many times.

Just quietly Bevo has also improved their defense quite a lot since the start of the season. Sure they are still no defensive champs but their style goes a long way to creating the tempo that fits their desired tempo of play.

Isn't it about time the Lisch > naturalised > Boomers talk starts again. He is in a rare run of form even when measured against his past levels.


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paul
Two years ago
16:01 22 Dec 15

Reply #571727

re: Breakers vs Hawks, Dec 20

Hawks also kept Breakers to eight offensive rebounds, pretty impressive.


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