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What is Liz Cambage's problem??

The muck up with the team camp or whatever it was last year was bad enough .. but does anyone follow her childish, diva'ish stuff on twitter ?

saw one recently that even had Lauren Jackson laughing at her and now this ...


@ecambage
People wonder why I have issues with some @BasketballAus teammates, I've been dealing with these behavior since we were kids
1:26 PM - 21 Feb 2016

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Indoorkite
Last year
14:31 21 Feb 16

Reply #579356

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

Did you miss the tweet before of a teammate dressed up in blackface? Think she has every right to be pissed off.


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Luuuc
Last year
14:33 21 Feb 16

Reply #579357

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

Yeah, it's pretty obvious what Cambage's problem is, and in this case she has a fair point.


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Frank Costanza's Lawyer
Last year
14:35 21 Feb 16

Reply #579359

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

the fact she runs to twitter to air this sort of thing says plenty about her imo... and why I wouldn't want her anywhere near my Opals squad.


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Frank Costanza's Lawyer
Last year
14:38 21 Feb 16

Reply #579360

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

You seek out that teammate and you talk about it / berate them in private.. You don't re-tweet it with a "this is why I'm a f*ckwhit sometimes, feel sorry for me" message attached.


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Anonymous
Last year
14:42 21 Feb 16

Reply #579361

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

The teammate realised the mistake and apologised pretty quickly.


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Frank Costanza's Lawyer
Last year
14:44 21 Feb 16

Reply #579362

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

inb4 Cambage lawsuit


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Luuuc
Last year
14:45 21 Feb 16

Reply #579363

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

"The teammate realised the mistake and apologised pretty quickly."

Good result then.


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Anonymous
Last year
14:54 21 Feb 16

Reply #579368

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

I don't blame Liz one bit. It is 2016, there is no excuse for blackface.


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Anonymous
Last year
15:05 21 Feb 16

Reply #579380

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

To add: Alice Kunek's "apology" was quite a weak attempt at a non-apology.


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Ricey
Last year
15:05 21 Feb 16

Reply #579381

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

Liz Cambage is Liz Camabage's problem


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Anonymous
Last year
15:08 21 Feb 16

Reply #579386

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

Meh such a non-issue. Political correctness going overboard. But it's okay for black actors to dress up and star in that "Black Chicks" movie or whatever it was called.


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Anonymous
Last year
15:09 21 Feb 16

Reply #579387

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

oops obviously meant "White Chicks" movie


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Frank Costanza's Lawyer
Last year
15:13 21 Feb 16

Reply #579395

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

yeah Kunek's apology was telling - "to my followers" of which I presume Cambage isn't one... It's no secret many of them supported Basketball Australia's decision to omit Cambage from the last Opals squad.

Sure Kunek's getup was boneheaded to say the least but imo diva Liz has just pounced on this to leverage sentiment / support for reinstatement to the Opals scene.

If she truly cared about the Opals she'd have dealt with it like a true teammate and kept it private. Believe me, the media will be all over this, questioning the morale in the whole Opals setup.


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Anonymous
Last year
15:15 21 Feb 16

Reply #579396

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

That's what they do - use anything that can be labelled as "racist" as leverage to get attention/sympathy. Disgusting and despicable.


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Luuuc
Last year
15:16 21 Feb 16

Reply #579402

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

Who are "they" exactly?


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Anonymous
Last year
15:18 21 Feb 16

Reply #579404

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

"That's what they do - use anything that can be labelled as "racist" as leverage to get attention/sympathy. Disgusting and despicable."

Wow. Just... wow.


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Frank Costanza's Lawyer
Last year
15:19 21 Feb 16

Reply #579406

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

@ Luuc, sorry I didn't make that clear - the 'they' I'm referring to is / was her Opals teammates at the time. They supported her omission


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Anonymous
Last year
15:19 21 Feb 16

Reply #579407

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

Yep. Vents on Twitter for media to pick it up instead of keeping it internal. A classic example.


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Anonymous
Last year
15:23 21 Feb 16

Reply #579411

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

"Believe me, the media will be all over this, questioning the morale in the whole Opals setup."

If someone has been dealing with racist behaviour from their teammates since childhood, I think that is something that should be questioned in the media and BA should address.


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Anonymous
Last year
15:24 21 Feb 16

Reply #579414

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

Anon #579411 wow just wow. facepalm


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Anonymous
Last year
15:26 21 Feb 16

Reply #579418

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

oh my god white people are so evil and cruel rah rah rah rah rah


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Anonymous
Last year
15:28 21 Feb 16

Reply #579420

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

I was Briggs the indigenous rapper picking up the photo that has blew this up.

I'm not black so I don't know how offensive black face is.

I know I don't get offended when geisha's put on white face although I probably just sounded very white by saying that.

Alice does seem like a lovely girl.

There does seem to be a push to find things to get outraged about on social media.


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Anonymous
Last year
15:31 21 Feb 16

Reply #579424

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

situation: don't like teammates
answer: find something mildly offensive which you know in this PC world of ours will blowup
revenge: via media once they pick up on it

Me thinks Alice Kunek is the victim in all of this.


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Last year
15:34 21 Feb 16

Reply #579431

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

"Me thinks"

I doubt that very much.


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Anonymous
Last year
15:38 21 Feb 16

Reply #579437

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

Yeah that's funny coming from your PC-infused haze of thought.


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snooch
Last year
15:42 21 Feb 16

Reply #579440

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

Clearly the answer is to ban fancy dress parties forever.


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Anonymous
Last year
17:40 21 Feb 16

Reply #579525

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

Not sure if you were being facetious or not but I agree dress up parties in general should be banned. There is too much risk in them with dressups of Indians, black faces etc. There is no place for them anymore.


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AngusH
Last year
17:56 21 Feb 16

Reply #579536

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

The 'but black people can wear white face and it's ok' crowd never cease to amaze me. Yeah, sorry, it's not the same thing. I'm not black either, but I don't have to have been to have read a couple of history books and to understand the difference between the two.


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Last year
17:57 21 Feb 16

Reply #579538

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

I'm far from politically correct, anon. I just know and understand how and why some things are racist.


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ME
Last year
18:11 21 Feb 16

Reply #579542

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

Everyone is so easy to offend these days. We all know the history of black face in America - when minstrels used to mock blacks wearing polish and paint, and often white actors would play black roles because blacks weren't considered up to the job. However, what that has to do in an Australian context to an Indigenous/Torres Strait woman, I am really unsure.

How much offence can you really feel about face painting? Is the offence even 'real' or do they just act offended because they know they have a right to feel offended by it? A tablespoon of 'harden the f*&ck up' wouldn't hurt too much.

Mocking white people is fine. No one gets all too offended. But don't mock someone who is black. In fact, do not in any way, shape, or form, pretend to be black or society will crush you under its toes.

It is ridiculous, truly.

As for Cambage, she has proven time and time again to not be of sound mind. I am not sure who, in her position, would publicly berate a team-mate while trying to smooth things over with the Opals. If she was interested in really having a harmonious relationship with the team, she would have handled the issue privately.

We have had her drop out of an Opals game for a music festival, drop out of a season of the WNBA for mental issues, and now this. I think the Opals will be just fine without her, frankly. She can peddle her victim complex somewhere else. I don't think it will have any effect on the end result for the Opals later this year.


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AngusH
Last year
18:20 21 Feb 16

Reply #579543

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

See my post. It's not the same thing because unfortunately the world didn't begin when you were born. Everything happens in the context of the larger world.


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bowtie
Last year
18:25 21 Feb 16

Reply #579545

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

Attention and sympathy come to mind.
LJ should have taken her under her wing.


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snooch
Last year
19:23 21 Feb 16

Reply #579551

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

I take it Mexican day of the dead costumes aren't racist.


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LC
Last year
19:45 21 Feb 16

Reply #579552

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

The only thing I will say on this subject is that Cambage should never have gone to social media to voice her frustration. All this does is potentially drive a bigger wedge between her and members of the Opals team.


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koberulz
Last year
19:51 21 Feb 16

Reply #579553

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

"However, what that has to do in an Australian context to an Indigenous/Torres Strait woman, I am really unsure."

http://m.theage.com.au/sport/basketball/opals-forward-alice-kunek-apologises-after-angering-liz-cambage-with-blackface-post-20160221-gmzlg5.html

"Cambage, whose father is Nigerian,"


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Train
Last year
20:58 21 Feb 16

Reply #579558

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

This racism thing does my head in. So just so I can get this down; if I want to go to a costume party dressed as 2pac or Samuel L Jackson(Mace Windu in Star Wars), I shouldn't paint my face black/brown to look like them ?


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AngusH
Last year
21:00 21 Feb 16

Reply #579560

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

Yes. Congratulations, you've got it. Is it that hard to understand?

If so, try read through this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackface

And then brush up on your pre 1980s world history.


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Train
Last year
21:04 21 Feb 16

Reply #579561

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

The world needs to lighten up.


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AngusH
Last year
21:07 21 Feb 16

Reply #579562

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

Alas, most of the world aren't as privileged as us.


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Isaac
Last year
21:13 21 Feb 16

Reply #579564

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

Kunek needed to lighten up too.


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paul
Last year
21:16 21 Feb 16

Reply #579565

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

Give yourself a ball Isaac!


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Anonymous
Last year
21:26 21 Feb 16

Reply #579567

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

Lol @ the owner of this website.

Ball worthy


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whitepodge
Last year
21:46 21 Feb 16

Reply #579570

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

white people really should be the arbiters of what is/isn't racist........ *sigh* given the history of black facing and how offensive people find it, can we just agree that black facing is something that poor, hard done by white people can just go without? I mean i know there is a lack of white people for us to dress up as, but we'll just have to push on thru.

The fact that people black facing has been called out OVER and OVER again, but yet high profile people still keep doing it..... well that's just fucking dumb. 1 incident of someone doing something 'racist' doesn't make someone a racist, it does brings into question a person's intelligence...

I mean HOW MANY GOD DAMN TIMES does this have to happen till people learn.

And you know what, if you want to dress up like Kanye all you need is a giant pulsating penis suit.


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Luuuc
Last year
21:54 21 Feb 16

Reply #579572

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

Between Alice Kunek and Rob Thomas it's been an interesting day for race relations in Melbourne.


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Anonymous
Last year
22:46 21 Feb 16

Reply #579575

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

Stop trying to compare white people not being offended with white face as if we all share the same history. Respect the culture even if you don't understand it. unless you know what being black in this world entails don't even try to justify what is and isn't offensive To them. How about she show up at a party as Catholic priest with your team mate dressed like an alter boy and see if that offends anyone. and yes the two are the same, a group of people oppressed, taken advatage of and rights violated. The reason black face is offensive is because it was the mascot for the Jim Crow laws.. Look it up and then continue with your ignorant comments.


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Anonymous
Last year
22:54 21 Feb 16

Reply #579576

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

It is the symbol of oppression for millions of African Americans


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Cram
Last year
23:00 21 Feb 16

Reply #579577

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

Very well said whitepodge


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Train
Last year
23:29 21 Feb 16

Reply #579580

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

I struggle with all this and it's not because I'm not intelligent or dumb, I've just never been educated about the terms " black facing " or the origins of the term "monkey". If I was to ever paint my face black/brown it certainly would not have any disrespect attached to it and I certainly don't have a racist bone in my body. I doubt Kunek meant any disrespect by her costume and Cambridge should of dealt with this outside the public.


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Jack Toft
Last year
23:54 21 Feb 16

Reply #579583

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

Perhaps one of the best videos for "reverse racism". This came out late 80's

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUMpPgMGCe8


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ME
Last year
00:45 22 Feb 16

Reply #579586

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

I can't help but think it is turning mountains out of mole hills. If the girl isn't racist and isn't doing it for racist purposes, why should Cambage care what colour she puts on her face? I don't care about history. If you're that easily offended, you need to work on yourself first.


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wayne
Last year
00:50 22 Feb 16

Reply #579587

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

People associate 'black face' IMMEDIATELY with the person being racist.

You're all so quick to judge her on that, how about ask her (Kunek) what she was dressing up as, in this case Kayne West.

There was nothing derogatory or offensive in the way she was trying to portray herself, simply a dress party and dressing up as one of her idols it would seem.

Now, if she had of been deliberately portraying herself as something derogatory or offensive, then by all means bring out your pitchforks.

But this racism holy crusade has two sides.


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Anonymous
Last year
00:56 22 Feb 16

Reply #579588

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

I don't believe anyone is calling her or has called her a racist. Just dumb for doing it


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Anonymous
Last year
01:14 22 Feb 16

Reply #579590

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

How about you all go live in thecUDA , yes the African descendants were treated terribly fir far too long, but believe me the reverse racism is certainly being followed in modern times.

Cambage seems to forget her mother is white, she has a foot in both camps, and as for kunek, it was a fancy dress costume for goodness sake, it was not a picture of Cambage , this is Taki g PC too far, if you want to you could find offe se in every dam fancy dress costume.


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Anonymous
Last year
01:32 22 Feb 16

Reply #579592

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

Your a public figure .. Don't do it..and No she didn't offend everyone just a few. That's all it takes.. Her mistake was posting it..kinda like a text message, you can't read tone.


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Anonymous
Last year
01:34 22 Feb 16

Reply #579593

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

I am black and an American. I also know AK. I was not offended by this. But it was not smart to post it on social media.


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Anonymous
Last year
03:38 22 Feb 16

Reply #579595

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

kanye west as an idol? Lol...
Definitely something wrong with that!


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Last year
08:46 22 Feb 16

Reply #579602

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

"How about you all go live in thecUDA , yes the African descendants were treated terribly fir far too long, but believe me the reverse racism is certainly being followed in modern times."

Congratulations. You just lost this thread.


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Our game
Last year
09:27 22 Feb 16

Reply #579608

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

"How about you all go live in thecUDA , yes the African descendants were treated terribly fir far too long, but believe me the reverse racism is certainly being followed in modern times."

Yep, your done.


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Ricey
Last year
11:38 22 Feb 16

Reply #579618

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

Blackface does have an Australian history too, it's not just an American thing as I once thought too. So there's right to be outraged at this, but at the same time it's being blown up as something a bit more than it is. It's a bit hypocritical though to call out Alice and not the other girl for appropriating the hell out of the Mexican day of the dead. If Liz wanted to be back on the team, she's not doing any favours by calling her teammates out in public and forcing a view of them as being now racist.


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ChairmanOfTheBored
Last year
12:02 22 Feb 16

Reply #579620

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

And on tonight's episode of "When Nutella Facials Go Wrong".


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Vic Wildcat
Last year
12:12 22 Feb 16

Reply #579622

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

Seriously this is an over reaction. The young girl in question was attending a fancy dress party, and wanted to go as her favorite celebrity, nothing more to this than that.It was no political statement, or racist in any terms.

Bigger concern is that she likes Kayne West, that should be considered more offensive.


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Anonymous
Last year
12:22 22 Feb 16

Reply #579625

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

I thought black face was like what the minstrels and the guys on Hey Hey its Saturday did, black shoe polish.

she darkened her skin to dress up.
i thought this was ok, its impersonation, which I thought was a form of flattery.

should all fake tans be banned as well?

look at how dark those body builders tan themselves.


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Anonymous
Last year
12:24 22 Feb 16

Reply #579626

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

I doubt kunek even has a chance of making the team. Gotta be 3 girls ahead of her in the Sg and sf positions.


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Anonymous
Last year
12:29 22 Feb 16

Reply #579628

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

There at least 10 players better than Nat Burton in her spot but she will probably still make it so who knows with Joyce.


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Anonymous
Last year
13:15 22 Feb 16

Reply #579635

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

Cambage is always looking for an excuse or a way out!!

This is a USA based issue and was never a major historic issue in Australia hence some people Just don't know it's an issue in Australia!


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Anonymous
Last year
13:36 22 Feb 16

Reply #579637

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

Is it racist to call her a whinging pommy?


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whitepodge
Last year
14:36 22 Feb 16

Reply #579659

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

sweet baby Jesus Christ, put all your logical fallacies in the bin.

Blackface is offensive whether you think it is or not, whether you like the cinematic masterpiece that is White Chicks or not, whether you find costumes inaccurate because they fail to convey the correct skin tone.....

It doesn't matter how many straw man you build, how many false equivalencies you illustrate, or how much ignorance you pleed.

BLACKFACE IS OFFENSIVE. It's well established that people find it offensive.

For fucks sake, how many Harry Connick Jnr's need to abuse a Daryl Summers before it begins to sink thru???

You don't have to like Cambridge to realise Kunek is in the wrong. You don't have to hate Kunek to realise she was wrong. You can still like someone and see that what they did was wrong. This action doesn't make Kunek a bad person, but the fact she's a good person doesn't make the action any less offensive to people who find black face INCREDIBLY OFFENSIVE. Humans are fallible, we shouldn't execute Kunek she obviously just needs to be educated, and we sure as fuck shouldn't be executing Cambridge for calling it out!

And you know what, if costume party accuracy means that much and you MUST blackface it up; than FOR THE LOVE OF THOR'S MIGHTY TESTICLES DON'T PUT PICTURES OF IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA.


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Anonymous
Last year
15:19 22 Feb 16

Reply #579679

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

bravo Reply #579542 bravo

"This is a USA based issue and was never a major historic issue in Australia hence some people Just don't know it's an issue in Australia!"

EXACTLY.

When did all blacks = African American.

Liz dad is Nigerian, nothing to do with USA.

So sad you lot from the PC brigade, you've been indoctrined well.


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Rob
Last year
15:40 22 Feb 16

Reply #579688

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

By that logic, should it be ok for Australians to dress up as KKK members and burn crosses?


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Anonymous
Last year
15:42 22 Feb 16

Reply #579689

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

No, because dressing up as KKK is pretty obvious.

Dressing up as Kanye West for a party, which means you have to put a bit of tan on, isn't.


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Anonymous
Last year
15:43 22 Feb 16

Reply #579690

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

By paying homage to a black artist, Kayne West, Alice is now a racist. Way to reverse the intent, PC world.


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whitepodge
Last year
15:48 22 Feb 16

Reply #579691

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

black face IS an australian issue.... once again ignorance reigns supreme....


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Anonymous
Last year
15:49 22 Feb 16

Reply #579692

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

Cambage half Nigerian not indigenous.

Someone please look into the history books of Nigeria to find something in there for us not to do.


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Last year
15:51 22 Feb 16

Reply #579693

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

"No, because dressing up as KKK is pretty obvious.

Dressing up as Kanye West for a party, which means you have to put a bit of tan on, isn't."

Ah, so your definition of racism is if its "obvious"? Thats a new one.


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whitepodge
Last year
15:53 22 Feb 16

Reply #579694

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

black face IS an australian issue.... once again ignorance reigns supreme....

Even if there was such a divide between American racial issues and Australian, why dont you go for a run down the street shouting out n***** at the top of your lungs? I mean it's an american word.... it shouldn't offend anyone.....


p.s. not being a dickhead isn't being PC, it's just not being a dickhead.


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Anonymous
Last year
15:55 22 Feb 16

Reply #579696

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

She wanted to look like Kanye so she did so.

Dressing up for a dress up party = racist.


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whitepodge
Last year
16:01 22 Feb 16

Reply #579702

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

anon #579696 you miss the point at an olympic quality level...


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Last year
16:11 22 Feb 16

Reply #579704

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

We had this same conversation two weeks ago about the word "monkey."

If you are unaware of something being offensive due to just not knowing, it doesn't mean that thing has suddenly become offensive. It means you didn't know.

If you continue to do/say that same offensive thing, or look for things to compare it to in order to prove it isn't offensive, thats when you become ignorant.


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Our game
Last year
18:55 22 Feb 16

Reply #579723

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

"black face IS an australian issue.... once again ignorance reigns supreme....

Even if there was such a divide between American racial issues and Australian, why dont you go for a run down the street shouting out n***** at the top of your lungs? I mean it's an american word.... it shouldn't offend anyone.....


p.s. not being a dickhead isn't being PC, it's just not being a dickhead."

Fabulous! That's almost a Hitchslap!


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Anonymous
Last year
21:42 22 Feb 16

Reply #579746

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Y3FzVQi-R8

Never Go Full Retard and get an Oscar nomination just like Sgt Lincoln Osiris.


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Anonymous
Last year
00:45 23 Feb 16

Reply #579752

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

"She wanted to look like Kanye so she did so."

You think it's not possible to dress up like someone without mimicking their skintone? Because at an end of season drunk fest it is so important to go for full accuracy. Or are you saying the only thing noticeable about Kanye is his skin colour? Black face IS an Australian issue. There IS a history of it in Australia. The ignorance is astounding.


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Anonymous
Last year
09:28 23 Feb 16

Reply #579763

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

Just cause people are white doesn't make them racist!

Remember the movie White Chicks?! Cmon we have moved passed all this and things need to be taken for what they are rather than the always outraged PC group of nuff nuffs that Twitter hijack every little issue!


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Anonymous
Last year
09:48 23 Feb 16

Reply #579769

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

You say white chicks I say tropic thunder (Robert Downey) and soul man.


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Last year
09:53 23 Feb 16

Reply #579771

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

"Just cause people are white doesn't make them racist!"

"Cmon we have moved passed all this "

Comments like the first one just show how much we haven't moved passed this.


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Anonymous
Last year
10:39 23 Feb 16

Reply #579776

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

Kunek went to a dress party trying to look like a black celebrity. Nothing more nothing less.
Bottomline is you can NOT blame someone for not knowing what blackface means to you.
We are NOT suppose to know every cultural sensitivity in such a multicultural society. Do you know every jesture every word that offend Italians ? Vietnamese ? Sudanese ? And don't give the BS that your sensitivity is more important.


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whitepodge
Last year
10:40 23 Feb 16

Reply #579777

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

using movies to justify reality..... come on...... Soul Man and Tropic Thunder used it as a very specific plot devise to highlight specific issues, they weren't a commentary on how black face should be normalised.... and you'll remember that even back in 1986 Soul Man got a fair share of criticism about it...

Has anyone quoting White Chicks actually seen the movie?? I mean it's horrible, but the 'white face' is a parody of all the black face movies etc..

Now if you'll excuse me i'm going to go throw a fat german kid in a chocolate river... and have him fished out by midgets.... because Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.....


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Last year
10:43 23 Feb 16

Reply #579778

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

Thats fine, if you are unaware of something, no one can blame you for not knowing.

The issue has become why people, now armed with the information that it is offensive, are defending their right to do it and dismissing as not being an issue. To use your words, that is putting your sensitivity and "rights" to do as you please ahead of those that have asked you not to. That is true ignorance.


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Anonymous
Last year
13:28 23 Feb 16

Reply #579812

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

Life would be a lot less complicated if all the blacks removed their blackface.


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Dazz
Last year
13:51 23 Feb 16

Reply #579829

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

My view:
If somebody wants to dress up as their favourite artist, good luck to them.
What is telling is that she thought the major component of this was painting her skin dark.
Here's the thing, you should be able to "dress up" as your favourite black person, without changing skin-tone. ie racial features should be irrelevant.


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Luuuc
Last year
13:56 23 Feb 16

Reply #579831

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

I dunno ... take away the black face from that outfit and I would have assumed she was trying to be Bieber


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Anonymous
Last year
13:59 23 Feb 16

Reply #579835

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

"I dunno ... take away the black face from that outfit and I would have assumed she was trying to be Bieber"

I dunno Luc ... could you even tell she was Kanye even after she said dressing up in blackface was her way of offering him support? I couldn't. Not only was she offensive, she put together a shite outfit.


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whitepodge
Last year
14:05 23 Feb 16

Reply #579838

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

hahaha pay that.


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Anonymous
Last year
14:31 23 Feb 16

Reply #579847

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

The opals program on the way down while the boomers program on the way up...

A lot of problems and bitchiness it seems in the opals squad over the last few years.
It'll Be interesting to see what happens in a couple of years(or after rio) when Phillips, Mitchell, Taylor, snell, ohea, hodges, Jackson, batkovic all retire and the younger girls step into the spotlight.

Personally, I think the girls currently aged 21 and under (the future) will be a much better group than those aged 22 and up (the next opals). I see us losing our spot as world number 2 and dropping back to 4-5 behind USA, Spain, Canada, Russia or france(maybe).


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Anonymous
Last year
15:09 23 Feb 16

Reply #579864

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

Reckon when you say the problems and bitchiness in the last few years you really mean Liz skipping out training for a festival. Sure will be problems when you put yourself over the team like that.


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Luuuc
Last year
16:04 23 Feb 16

Reply #579875

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

At the end of the latest Age article:

"Moore also revealed that BA was attempting to resolve issues Cambage has with the sport's national governing body over her axing from the squad last year"


Hard to believe she still hasn't let that one go.


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Anonymous
Last year
16:51 23 Feb 16

Reply #579900

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

Always see the argument that it's racist because of the historical context, but the historical context is that it was used in another country (USA) to ridicule a different set of races (Africans) using a very specific pattern of makeup and set of mannerisms, which are never used now.

So it should not be offensive to indigenous Australians as a general practice, but only if it is calculated to ridicule them.

The reason you can't just say "let people of colour decide what's racist" is that it assumes that all people of colour have the same opinion and feel the same way, which is itself stereotyping, and also that anyone who does feel offended by something can never be wrong to feel that way.

I wouldn't don blackface to a party because I don't need the grief, but on principle people should be free to do/wear what they like and if the worst thing that happens to you today is that you see a picture of a stranger in the wrong costume on social media, you probably aren't as underpriveleged as you think you are.


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Anonymous
Last year
16:52 23 Feb 16

Reply #579902

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

indigenous Australians = any black non-African American


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Anonymous
Last year
16:53 23 Feb 16

Reply #579904

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

^ typo - should be "any non black African-American" not indigenous


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whitepodge
Last year
17:16 23 Feb 16

Reply #579912

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

what's got 2 thumbs and still misses the point after 80+ posts = anon #579900...............


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paul
Last year
17:17 23 Feb 16

Reply #579913

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

"Hard to believe she still hasn't let that one go."

Is it really?


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paul
Last year
17:22 23 Feb 16

Reply #579915

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

I think #900 makes a reasoned argument, whether you agree with it or not. They haven't missed the point, they have a different viewpoint to you whitepodge.


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Last year
17:34 23 Feb 16

Reply #579916

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

""Hard to believe she still hasn't let that one go."

Is it really?"

I'm not sure if I am answering this question the way you wanted but if she still doesn't get why she was dumped from the team then she never will, which is the problem.


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paul
Last year
17:41 23 Feb 16

Reply #579919

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

It was pretty bitter at the time. Even if you don't agree with the reasoning in a dispute like that, at some point you just have to respect the fact others looked at it differently and move on.


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Last year
17:44 23 Feb 16

Reply #579920

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

Yeah, isn't that what we're all saying? She needs to move on.


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Luuuc
Last year
18:05 23 Feb 16

Reply #579922

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

That's pretty much what I'm saying, yes.

That was > 6 months ago now.
So I'm wondering what outcome she is hoping to achieve by still (apparently) pursuing this issue with BA. She's not going to be reinstated to the team that competed 6 months ago. Brendan Joyce already said quite clearly that what happened with her back then will have no bearing on her selection chances for Rio. So what is her end game?


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Anonymous
Last year
20:04 23 Feb 16

Reply #579928

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

It's been a few years since the WNBA draft but she still comes across as such a child.


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whitepodge
Last year
20:42 23 Feb 16

Reply #579935

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

Paul, they've missed the point because they skill can't see why it's racist. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, it just so happens theirs is racist.... and had they bothered to read the other posts in the thread, they're argument has been brutally repudiated already.


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Anonymous
Last year
20:52 23 Feb 16

Reply #579939

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

One of the biggest victims here is the English language.


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whitepodge
Last year
20:59 23 Feb 16

Reply #579941

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

hahaha i'm typing one handed while I apply my whiteface...... sorry...


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Anonymous
Last year
23:02 23 Feb 16

Reply #579957

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

body builders always bronze up for competitions, really some as brown as that twitter pic.

should they all be labelled racists?


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Last year
23:07 23 Feb 16

Reply #579959

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

Oh ffs!


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whitepodge
Last year
23:41 23 Feb 16

Reply #579962

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

...... sweet baby fucking jesus.... we've hit peak stupidity....


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paul
Last year
00:21 24 Feb 16

Reply #579967

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

"Paul, they've missed the point because they skill can't see why it's racist."

I think you should re-read the third paragraph of their comment, it's particularly pertinent. This isn't as simple as you would like it to be.


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Anonymous
Last year
00:50 24 Feb 16

Reply #579970

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

"Hard to believe she still hasn't let that one go."

We don't know what she's taking issue. She could be asking why that was something BA and teammates openly discussed in the media whilst they attempt to hush this up and sweep it under the rug.


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whitepodge
Last year
09:31 24 Feb 16

Reply #579989

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

Paul, oh i think it is that simple. Don't do blackflace, it's racist. It's that simple.


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Isaac
Last year
10:27 24 Feb 16

Reply #579992

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

Surely one issue is that it's about sensitivity and awareness rather than someone being racist.

If you were unaware of the history and sensitivity of "blackface", and make Kunek's mistake, you're not necessarily racist. Your intent may have been to just dress up to look like someone. No harm intended. If you were aware and did it anyway, you're insensitive.

And though I don't like arguing this sort of issue from a position of majority, I do wonder if Cambage couldn't have given a fellow player the benefit of the doubt and contacted them privately with "Hey, here's a link to Wikipedia's blackface article in case you weren't aware." But if it's one of a string of incidents in her life, it's hard to judge someone boiling over.

That said, it read to me as though there was bad blood between the two players.

An argument could be made that the beat-up in the media raises awareness.

I have stronger misgivings about "cultural appropriation" along the lines of American Indian headwear or dressing as a geisha. Making a lot of the cultural "flavour" of the world off-limits seems like it could be a stretch.


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paul
Last year
10:55 24 Feb 16

Reply #579995

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

The reason it's not that simple is instances like Radike Samo and Tracey Davis where the people directly impacted endorsed it.

In the case of Davis, she reportedly took issue with it being described as blackface, differentiating between dressing up to look like a specific person and dressing up to caricature a race.

Your view on this is your view, which is fair enough, but your blanket viewpoint isn't shared by all others impacted by this issue.


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Anonymous
Last year
11:04 24 Feb 16

Reply #579996

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

And though I don't like arguing this sort of issue from a position of majority, I do wonder if Cambage couldn't have given a fellow player the benefit of the doubt and contacted them privately with "Hey, here's a link to Wikipedia's blackface article in case you weren't aware."
--
I believe Briggs called attention to Kunek in social media before Cambage. Liz's involvement added in the inter-Opals dimension, but Brigg's has a big following so it was likely to make a splash either way.


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whitepodge
Last year
11:18 24 Feb 16

Reply #579998

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

Totally agree Issac. Someone can do something/say something that is 'racist' and not be a racist/meant it to be offensive. Obviously Kunek didn't mean it, she's a good human from all reports.
For me the problem is more to do with the people doubling down and defending it.
Could Cambridge have handled it on the downlow? Probably. But i can understand why she'd want to drag it into the light of day, especially given how visible the issue has been. Was she motivated by the fact there was bad blood between them? I dunno. At the end of the day though that fact doesn't alter the initial action.

The 'Cultural appropriation' issue annoys me as well. I think it's about context and appropriateness. I think there is a valid argument to be made about the appropriateness of certain activities, e.g. mascots wearing ceremonial headgear, teams being named Redskins etc etc.
I dislike Iggy, but the flack she has gotten from the 'cultural appropriation' brigade is ridiculous. The fact is, if you live in a multicultural society each culture appropriates things from each other, be it music, language, food, dress etc. It blurs the artificial lines that we build around our cultural niches and unites us - eventually. Claiming someone has 'appropriated your music' is rubbish. Music by its very nature has been appropriated since cavemen realised they could bang a bongo.


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Last year
11:24 24 Feb 16

Reply #580000

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

It doesn't alter what Kunek did but bringing this issue to light doesn't alter what Cambage has done in the past either. To me it seems like she is trying to justify her input in to the bad blood by highlighting her team mates are racist, and that is pretty immature of her.


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Anonymous
Last year
11:29 24 Feb 16

Reply #580001

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

Reckon this will be a redux of 2010, unfortunately.


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whitepodge
Last year
11:33 24 Feb 16

Reply #580002

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

Paul, my blanket viewpoint is shared by a majority of people who have a fair higher melanin count than me........

It doesn't matter what is meant by the wearer of the blackface, it's what blackface symbolises. As an example I'd encourage you to run down the street screaming out 'N****!', some people won't care, some will just ignore it, but the ones that do find it offensive will not give a shit that you were just singing a Lil' John lyric out loud......


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paul
Last year
11:53 24 Feb 16

Reply #580006

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

I'm not talking about the intention of the wearer, I'm talking about the response of those being dressed up as. Their viewpoint is very important in any mature discussion about this, certainly more important than people who purport to speak on behalf of "people who have a fair higher melanin count" than them.

If Samo and Davis see a difference between dressing up and 'blackface' it would be good to hear from more people impacted, rather than those rushing tospeak for them.


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Isaac
Last year
11:54 24 Feb 16

Reply #580007

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

I don't know who Briggs is or what they've said, but the same opportunity to educate rather than shame exists for anyone else.


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whitepodge
Last year
11:59 24 Feb 16

Reply #580009

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

hard to education though Issac when people don't understand that there is a problem....


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whitepodge
Last year
12:04 24 Feb 16

Reply #580011

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

Paul, well as long as Samo is happy i guess the problem doesn't exist..... *sigh*


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paul
Last year
12:18 24 Feb 16

Reply #580013

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

Another simplistic answer.

Are you saying Samo and Davis (and others who share their viewpoint) should have no say in this because it doesn't fit with your view? Or that Davis' view that dressing up as a specific person is different to blackface isn't worth consideration?

To me their views certainly hold value, as do the views of people affected by this who might see it differently to Samo and Davis. That's why a mature discussion would be good, one that didn't involve people becoming self-appointed representatives of those actually involved.


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whitepodge
Last year
12:27 24 Feb 16

Reply #580014

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

I'm saying that 1 or 2 exceptions don't make the rule......

I don't right the rules on what offends people, I just listen to what the majority of affected people are saying. There was a time where i didn't find blackface offensive at all, but then i was educated as to why it was and the historical context of it...


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paul
Last year
12:44 24 Feb 16

Reply #580019

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

That's the point though, we don't know whether they are exceptions or not because we haven't had that discussion as a community.

To illustrate that point, how many examples can you produce of someone who was dressed up as who then spoke publicly denouncing it?

It's an area where I think a lot of assumptions are being made, are there a clearly differing views, hence why I say it's not a topic that can be dichotomised as easily as it may first appear.


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Hoopie
Last year
12:49 24 Feb 16

Reply #580020

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

I find it interesting that we're getting so heated about blackface, yet most will happily enjoy rap music which really puts down women.

Ironic that Kunek wanted to be like her idol Kanye, whose videos and lyrics can be pretty brutal.


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whitepodge
Last year
12:53 24 Feb 16

Reply #580021

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

There are differing views with everything Paul, just because a handful of people think the world is flat doesn't make the world flat....

Clearly there are different views, i just choose to follow the educated view and I can live with that.


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paul
Last year
13:08 24 Feb 16

Reply #580022

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

I guess the overriding them of your last few posts is that you know better than Samo and Davis, and have no interest in finding out how man others who are affected by this who feel the same way. It strikes me as ignorant and arrogant.

There is no doubt general blackface is offensive and racist, but when it comes to dressing up as someone specific there obviously needs to be a greater discussion involving those who are actually involved, rather than others speaking on their behalf.


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Anonymous
Last year
13:08 24 Feb 16

Reply #580023

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

Hoopie, apples and oranges. Not all rap puts down women. All blackface is a form of dehumanising performance meant to stereotype and perpetuate racism.

I looked through her Instagram and last year Kunek went as a Rastafarian for the Dandenong fancy dress. She resisted the urge to paint herself dark then, it seems odd she made the opposite decision a year later after blackface had even been in the media recently.


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Last year
13:15 24 Feb 16

Reply #580025

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

I guess what paul is saying is that if I chose to dress up as podge for a fancy dress party by wearing a red wig, pale skin and I painted freckles all over my sun-tan lotion lathered body, then I'm possibly just "making fun" of podge only, and not suggesting that ALL gingers are soulless devil spawn.


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Anonymous
Last year
13:28 24 Feb 16

Reply #580026

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

"One reason we rush so quickly to the vulgar satisfactions of judgment, and love to revel in our righteous outrage, is that it spares us from the impotent pain of empathy, and the harder, messier work of understanding."
― Tim Kreider, We Learn Nothing


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whitepodge
Last year
13:40 24 Feb 16

Reply #580032

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

Supernintendo Chalmers haha is it wrong that i'm slightly aroused by the thought?


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whitepodge
Last year
13:41 24 Feb 16

Reply #580033

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

"What dooms our best efforts to cultivate empathy and compassion is always, of course, other people."
― Tim Kreider, We Learn Nothing


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snooch
Last year
14:04 24 Feb 16

Reply #580034

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

Kunek went as a Rastafarian for the Dandenong fancy dress. She resisted the urge to paint herself dark then,

You don't have to be black to be rasta.


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Anonymous
Last year
16:33 24 Feb 16

Reply #580066

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

I am black and I was not offended. But what does offend me are people telling me what I can and can't be offended by as a black person. The reason this still offends people is because racism does still exist. And any outward showing of such hatred is usually shunned. Blackface and the confederate flag are a calling card for white supremacists as well as those who are truly racist in this day and age. So unless you know the person it's hard to know what's in their heart. if a black peron dressed in blackface trust me it would be just as offensive, probably more. I think it's ironic that I don't believe any black person who has commented on this situation has used the word racist or racism. Blackface is not racist. Blackface is insensitive, ignorant and not okay... One day dressing up as your favorite star to include the color of his/her skin will be more socially accepted in all communities. But for right now while racism still exists it's probably safe to say that a white man wearing a full Phila 76'ers uniform with Erving on the back and an Afro wig with a head band won't be mistaken for Justin bieber because he's not painted black so don't do it and for gods sake don't post it on social media. It's not about fair or unfair, liberties, rights, or freedoms, or even political correctness. It's about embracing our differences and respecting boundaries that cause or conjure up hurt in a race of people. So to my people.. The "N" word, Blackface, being called monkey and Kanye west are all offensive to us until further notice and can get you beat up, killed in some parts of the US or vilified in no seconds flat..


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Anonymous
Last year
16:50 24 Feb 16

Reply #580072

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

Some very insightful and intelligent responses of late in this thread.. except for whitepodge.


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Last year
16:52 24 Feb 16

Reply #580073

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

"Blackface is insensitive, ignorant and not okay."

Precisely. And those trying to compare it to a bronzed body-builder are plain ignorant.


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Anonymous
Last year
16:53 24 Feb 16

Reply #580074

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

"Blackface is not racist. Blackface is insensitive, ignorant and not okay"

This!


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whitepodge
Last year
17:08 24 Feb 16

Reply #580075

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

Anon #580072, you inspire me.


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whitepodge
Last year
17:10 24 Feb 16

Reply #580076

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

"It's not about fair or unfair, liberties, rights, or freedoms, or even political correctness. It's about embracing our differences and respecting boundaries that cause or conjure up hurt in a race of people. "

Bingo.


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Anonymous
Last year
17:13 24 Feb 16

Reply #580078

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

"Blackface is not racist. Blackface is insensitive, ignorant and not okay"

but hold on whitepodge said it was racist and he's the new authority on black people.


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Last year
17:16 24 Feb 16

Reply #580079

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

"Bingo."

This!


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Last year
17:16 24 Feb 16

Reply #580080

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

"This!"

+1


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Anonymous
Last year
17:17 24 Feb 16

Reply #580081

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

Love how you guys deflect away from the "it's not racist" comment because you previously claimed it was racist. Insensitive, ignorant - yes, racist - no. Owned but deflect away if you must.


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Anonymous
Last year
17:18 24 Feb 16

Reply #580082

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

"Love how you guys deflect away from the "it's not racist" comment because you previously claimed it was racist. Insensitive, ignorant - yes, racist - no. Owned but deflect away if you must."

Bingo.


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whitepodge
Last year
17:19 24 Feb 16

Reply #580083

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

yes... argument destroyed... blackface is ok because someone said it's not racist....I surrender, black face away anon.

http://www.sbs.com.au/comedy/article/2016/02/02/nation-somehow-still-needs-be-told-blackface-racist


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whitepodge
Last year
17:22 24 Feb 16

Reply #580085

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

"Well if her teammate whose father is Nigerian thinks it's racist, then it is racist," Clarke replied. “Let the people of colour define what’s racist. Let them define what’s offensive to them. If it offended her, then so be it.”


http://junkee.com/buzzfeeds-allan-clarke-perfectly-shut-down-steve-price-on-the-project-over-blackface/73859


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Last year
17:24 24 Feb 16

Reply #580086

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

#081, I may have erroneously called it racist in the beginning but haven't done since. Someone else gave a good explanation for the issue and I agree with that. Not deflecting anything.

What you seem to be doing though, even with your admission that it is insensitive and ignorant, is looking for reasons why its still ok to do it. What sort of selfish twisted logic allows you to come to that conclusion?

Considering you compared it to bronzed body-builders then I really don't think you are in a position to be questioning anyone's take on the matter.


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whitepodge
Last year
17:31 24 Feb 16

Reply #580088

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

I still think it's racist, as do many others. At best it's insensitive and ignorant - but how is that any better? It's offensive regardless.

Are you that guy at the Reclaim Australia rallies that proudly declares 'Islam isn't a race so i'm not racist, i'm just a bigot'?


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Anonymous
Last year
18:36 24 Feb 16

Reply #580094

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

Can I just point out that BA has already sided with Liz because they do view it as inappropriate. And it is ok for Liz to make a fuss over it because some people take great pride in their race and that is the beauty of being Australian. We come from so many backgrounds to create one culture and because of this we do have to tread a bit lighter than maybe other countries do, however, this I am willing to do because being a part of a multicultural Australia is awesome!
it has been blown out of proportion and it's been quite well publicised but honestly it's a smoke screen to deeper issues in the team IMO.
At any rate we should thank Liz for having the bravery to call out her team mate and move on to more important topics.


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Anonymous
Last year
02:58 25 Feb 16

Reply #580133

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

Why do Australians keep wearing blackface? - BBC News

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-35601105


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Anonymous
Last year
09:05 25 Feb 16

Reply #580145

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

That was NOT bravery, a simple phone call or text to AK would have been enough, if you knew AK you would know their was never anything remotely done to deliberately make fun of anyone. And LC knows this too, this was purely her way of making a dam fuss so that if BA don't take her she's got another inch for leverage,
The opals group are already annoyed at LC for her behaviour over the whole rock concert and this was here way of making sure she gets some one up a ship on them.

All she had to do was say, hey mate I'm a bit offended by that do you think you could take it down ..... And AK would have apologised and removed it ..... End of story
But no Big Lizzie has to plaster it all over social media

Look at it fir what it is not what it's being portrayed as


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Anonymous
Last year
09:22 25 Feb 16

Reply #580149

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

Isn't it time for everyone, Liz and the other Opals, to stop with the Oceania team and musical festival grudges? Who is Skipper right now? She needs to sit everyone down and tell them to all get in line.


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spot up
Last year
09:42 25 Feb 16

Reply #580154

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

It seems to me that it's the people who are now "defending" Alice Kunek who are making this worse. IMO we should give her the benefit of the doubt that she didn't fully understand the significance of what she did (as surprising as that may be...).

Instead, there are stupid arguments being had about whether it's OK or not - a discussion which AK has had no part in. It's pretty embarrassing as an Australian when stuff like this happens, but it's worse when the ridiculous debate follows about whether we think things like this should be considered offensive or not.


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Last year
09:44 25 Feb 16

Reply #580155

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

Its the same as the whole Goodes saga. People made it about booing and defended their right to boo someone, over not booing a guy who was being racially vilified by sections of the crowd.


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kingpodge
Last year
09:53 25 Feb 16

Reply #580159

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

#AuthenticityInCostuming


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Isaac
Last year
12:23 25 Feb 16

Reply #580177

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

I think people get a little confused as it's a racial issue that can be a racist act but can also (likely in this case) be unintentional. And though it might be ignorant, I think that rushing to label it as that makes a somewhat harsh judgement on what we expect an adult to know.


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Anonymous
Last year
16:33 26 Feb 16

Reply #580390

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

"Considering you compared it to bronzed body-builders then I really don't think you are in a position to be questioning anyone's take on the matter."

Bronzeed body builder was another anon.


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Anonymous
Last year
16:36 26 Feb 16

Reply #580392

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

After the Goodes reference I'm thinking Cambage may be angling for an Australian of the Year award.


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Our game
Last year
18:59 26 Feb 16

Reply #580442

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

"After the Goodes reference I'm thinking Cambage may be angling for an Australian of the Year"

Really sadning ignorance, not much recognition so far that Liz showed courage in speaking out against ths ignorance, ffs Goodes nearly quitt after the backlash from his stand against taunts that plagued his entire career, Liz has likely had the same & had enough. Well done Liz, don't put up with it so kids like mine won't have to endure such stupidity.


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Anonymous
Last year
19:08 26 Feb 16

Reply #580444

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

Don't follow AFL but weren't the taunts because people don't like him as a player, nothing to do with race. But then he construed it as being racial?


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Our game
Last year
20:07 26 Feb 16

Reply #580472

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

Yes that's right the taunts he experienced from under 10s right through his afl career were all because people diddnt like him. Actually now that's its been mentioned, I'm glad his australian of the year award pissed those same people off so much.


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Anonymous
Last year
20:10 26 Feb 16

Reply #580473

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/fashion/aussie-model-ajak-deng-officially-done-with-the-fashion-industry/news-story/a5a5b7d87a4bbd9f85457621a63cfd16

it's ppl like the above who use race as an excuse which then makes you question others motives.


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Luuuc
Last year
20:16 26 Feb 16

Reply #580474

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

This might be politically incorrect of me to point out, but, notice how it's never white people resorting to playing the race card?
hmmmm....
#whingersthelotofthem #hardenup


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Anonymous
Last year
20:18 26 Feb 16

Reply #580475

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

Yeah I'd love to play the race card considering my fashion career didn't get off the ground.


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Anonymous
Last year
20:19 26 Feb 16

Reply #580476

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

Yeah I'd love to play the race card after my fashion career didn't get off the ground.


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Our game
Last year
20:42 26 Feb 16

Reply #580480

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

'This might be politically incorrect of me to point out, but, notice how it's never white people resorting to playing the race card?
hmmmm....
#whingersthelotofthem #hardenup'

Idiotic


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Luuuc
Last year
12:01 7 Mar 16

Reply #582119

re: What is Liz Cambage's problem??

Liz Cambage interview from WWOS

https://www.9now.com.au/wide-world-of-sports/2016/clip-cilg46nmd00020ete10sbeu2k

Well articulated by her, IMO.


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