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Olympics: Opals vs France

One would think the Opals can account for World #4 France who are minus their best player in Celine Dumerc.

Preview: Opals looking for revenge against France

However the Opals have not appeared to be as unified as the Boomers at Rio to date. Will be interesting to see how they go, especially if they are challenged.

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Andy
Last year
13:14 9 Aug 16

Reply #594012

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

Alarm is set again, Im going to be totally buggered by the end of the week!
Japan has had 2 really great wins already, 1pt win over Belarus and easily beat Brazil by only 2 less points than the Opals did and kept them to 66 points, same as the Opals did.


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Luuuc
Last year
13:42 9 Aug 16

Reply #594019

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

If we don't step up a gear we could easily drop this one, just as we did in London, which is the game that cost us a top 2 finish there. France may have lost their starting PG but they still have some experience and quality in the front court.

Hopefully the day off has recharged our batteries.
I want to see much more movement, and some attack mode from everyone rather than just Liz.


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Anonymous
Last year
20:07 9 Aug 16

Reply #594098

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

Anybody know which channel tonight?


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Anonymous
Last year
20:09 9 Aug 16

Reply #594099

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

7two at 1:15am AEST


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Anonymous
Last year
23:23 9 Aug 16

Reply #594112

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

I've lowered my expectations for the Opals.


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Luuuc
Last year
00:52 10 Aug 16

Reply #594120

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

Burton got a rebound!
Our fortunes are turning around here.


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Luuuc
Last year
01:10 10 Aug 16

Reply #594121

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

Opals lead 21-19 at quarter time.

Liz looked on a mission and then promptly sat herself on the bench with foul #2 after only 3:30 on court. Grrrrrr....

Penny has finally shown up though.


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koberulz
Last year
01:11 10 Aug 16

Reply #594122

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

Website is down again, shockingly. At least NBL TV loaded.


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Anonymous
Last year
01:11 10 Aug 16

Reply #594123

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

Eww, horrible basketball.


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Anonymous
Last year
01:12 10 Aug 16

Reply #594124

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

I thought Penny Taylor has blood running down her neck. Turns out it's leftovers of a scratch? She's getting beat up out there.


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Luuuc
Last year
01:14 10 Aug 16

Reply #594125

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

Leilani, Penny & Liz should never all be sitting at the same time.


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Anonymous
Last year
01:17 10 Aug 16

Reply #594126

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

No 6 not up to the defence needed against France. Bring on George and set the screens and get her hot hand ready for the 4th quarter.


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Anonymous
Last year
01:19 10 Aug 16

Reply #594127

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

Thank you for showing up and showing out Penny Taylor. Finally.


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koberulz
Last year
01:20 10 Aug 16

Reply #594128

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

Watching on a borrowed iPad, which just cut to the national anthems.


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Anonymous
Last year
01:27 10 Aug 16

Reply #594129

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

Lavey could easily blow by players but she's too scared to take it to the rack.


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Anonymous
Last year
01:27 10 Aug 16

Reply #594130

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

Lavey & Burton just showed their weakness


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Anonymous
Last year
01:28 10 Aug 16

Reply #594131

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

George finally in to outperform burton again no doubt.


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Luuuc
Last year
01:30 10 Aug 16

Reply #594132

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

Not with lame passes like that she won't
:/


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bulldog
Last year
01:31 10 Aug 16

Reply #594133

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

Close to muting sound. Horrible commentary. Shocking combination of someone who clearly doesnt know anything about basketball and Lauren Jackson who needs to be prompted to speak most of the time.


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Anonymous
Last year
01:33 10 Aug 16

Reply #594134

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

There we go George.. Leave her on coach


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Anonymous
Last year
01:34 10 Aug 16

Reply #594135

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

Terrible coverage, commentators and news anchors all round.


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Anonymous
Last year
01:35 10 Aug 16

Reply #594136

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

Did Liz just call out F Yeah on Tolos last shot .. Ha ha


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Anonymous
Last year
01:35 10 Aug 16

Reply #594137

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

Nothing weong with Kaylas pass. Ebzery should have moved to the ball and know her defender


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Luuuc
Last year
01:37 10 Aug 16

Reply #594138

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

Oh please. That pass was laughably bad.

Nice half though. Much more Opals-like.


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Anonymous
Last year
01:37 10 Aug 16

Reply #594139

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

Exactly ebzery needed to move. Basic basketball.


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Anonymous
Last year
01:39 10 Aug 16

Reply #594140

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

Allen, batkovic, Blicavs would have been handy :)


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Anonymous
Last year
01:39 10 Aug 16

Reply #594141

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

Cambage only played 3.35 mins


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Anonymous
Last year
01:40 10 Aug 16

Reply #594142

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

Agree.. Most boring commentary.. Someone needs to tell them this is not Sat arvo ABC.. It's the Olympics and commercial tv. All commentators should have been forced to sleep with Lawrie Lawrence and other excited commentators to fire them up. This os Australia vs France and out ladies are leading the game... Come on, get excited... Get Liz on the mike. F Yeah...


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Anonymous
Last year
01:41 10 Aug 16

Reply #594143

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

Sleep with headphones in listening to them that is.. Ha ha..


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Anonymous
Last year
01:44 10 Aug 16

Reply #594144

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

Senior Men on the way up..
Senior women on the way down..

pretty much half our team at the end of there international career after rio.

We need someone new to rebuild.
Why can't seebohm coach all 3 of our women's teams?


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Anonymous
Last year
02:01 10 Aug 16

Reply #594145

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

Pleae neve ever have lavey and burton on at the same time. Hodges and George on please stat


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Anonymous
Last year
02:03 10 Aug 16

Reply #594146

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

Lavey had an open layup about 4 times and kept dishing at the last moment.

Burton... What can you say?


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Anonymous
Last year
02:04 10 Aug 16

Reply #594147

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

That last 5 was all wrong and Poor phillips being treated like second rate player having that conbo to work woth. You are not there to be liked coach. No need to get everyone on in this game especially.


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Luuuc
Last year
02:05 10 Aug 16

Reply #594148

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

He certainly micro-manages from the sidelines doesn't he.


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Anonymous
Last year
02:08 10 Aug 16

Reply #594149

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

I vote seebohm...
Cool, calm, collected and has got the job done with class every single time.


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Luuuc
Last year
02:11 10 Aug 16

Reply #594150

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

Well this one's all but in the bag :)


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Anonymous
Last year
02:11 10 Aug 16

Reply #594151

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

Penny Taylor. Bloody brilliant. Bae.


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Andy
Last year
02:14 10 Aug 16

Reply #594152

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

Burton and Lavey doing their best to keep the French in it!


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Anonymous
Last year
02:14 10 Aug 16

Reply #594153

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

Awful rushed shot by ebzery. Move it around and take time offp


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Anonymous
Last year
02:16 10 Aug 16

Reply #594154

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

Taylor absolute legend and role model for all female players. Vision to die for and effort effort and effort with a big sprinkle of self belief


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Anonymous
Last year
02:22 10 Aug 16

Reply #594155

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

USA, Spain and Canada have looked better so far this tournament.
Japan might surprise.


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Anonymous
Last year
02:26 10 Aug 16

Reply #594156

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

Get that rwf some glasses. Rewound that and no where near out.


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Anonymous
Last year
02:29 10 Aug 16

Reply #594157

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

That was a light call on the french by the same ref


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Anon
Last year
02:33 10 Aug 16

Reply #594158

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

I would love to know why Joyce is such a fan of Burton. She is horrible and barely gets by in WA SBL let alone on the International stage.


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Luuuc
Last year
02:35 10 Aug 16

Reply #594159

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

Final score 89-71

PFT 31 points @ 77%, 9 assists, 5 boards, 3 steals & a block celebrating the 10 year anniversary of her nickname in the same country she earned it.


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Anonymous
Last year
02:36 10 Aug 16

Reply #594160

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

his ego..


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Anonymous
Last year
02:37 10 Aug 16

Reply #594161

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

Night all. Sleep in Wed night...7.30 Thurs US v Boomers..


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Anonymous
Last year
02:39 10 Aug 16

Reply #594162

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

Burton 2 rebounds, 1 ast. 13:38
Lavey 3 points, 1 rebound, 1 assist, 1 steal, 5 turnovers. 14:57


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getonboard
Last year
02:40 10 Aug 16

Reply #594163

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

3 from 3 great start by the team. Fine tuning will see further improvement.

Still cannot believe the number of "haters" posting negative comments


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Anonymous
Last year
02:44 10 Aug 16

Reply #594164

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

Lol,
burton 49 minutes played for 2 rebounds, 4 points and 2 assists total.


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Anonymous
Last year
02:47 10 Aug 16

Reply #594165

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

Penny Taylor 31 points and 1 assist shy of an Olympic double double.


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Luuuc
Last year
02:47 10 Aug 16

Reply #594166

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

Much better performance by the team. Liz fouling herself to the bench early was almost a blessing in disguise in a way. Movement was far better, and Hodges & Tolo did well with their minutes.
Strange use of Talbot - entering the game in the 1st quarter but that was about it for her.

Penny's ridiculous game made it a bit flattering though. Still significant improvement needed, but at least we looked a better team than in games 1 & 2.


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paul
Last year
03:20 10 Aug 16

Reply #594167

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

You nailed it the other day Luuuc when you talked about the offence in Turkey two years ago, quick ball movement and the players just taking what the defence gave them. It was beautiful to watch.

With Cambage in the middle it has changed, she can't really play that style, but she is a great focal point so needs to be used.

It was forced by foul trouble but I think tonight showed it works best with Liz in smaller doses as a focal point and then quick moving team offence the rest of the time.

Great win, now 3-0 and +41, can't complain about that. Now for Japan, they could well be an interesting test.


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paul
Last year
03:29 10 Aug 16

Reply #594168

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

Also, great to see Hodges back in the rotation, she's an important player for us.


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LC
Last year
06:26 10 Aug 16

Reply #594172

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

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Andy
Last year
09:27 10 Aug 16

Reply #594181

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

It was good for Liz to get a good rest during this game, she will be the difference against a smaller Japanese team, expect her to have a massive game.


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getonboard
Last year
09:47 10 Aug 16

Reply #594184

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

watching/listening to the timeouts, the team are executing what Joyce wants. Harmony appears great! Liz also is on board.


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Anonymous
Last year
11:01 10 Aug 16

Reply #594197

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

Another top performance by our superstar Opals, Cambage and Taylor the render covering the limited contribution from Joyces mistakes.
Just wait for team USA and the real time medal contenders.

USA are going to eat the opals and watch Joyce choke when the finals start and over play Burton, Lavey, Hodges.

Can't wait for it to get serious and the girls play a team that are contenders. So far it's been far from impressive from anyone outside Cambage and Taylor.


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_Strungout_
Last year
11:04 10 Aug 16

Reply #594199

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

Good win v France - somewhat of a bogey team...

They seemed to miss Dumerc more then I thought, she was a main reason for the win v the opals in 2012.

Great to see Taylor play so well. Shame she is hanging up the boots, she still have a lot to offer.


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Luuuc
Last year
11:11 10 Aug 16

Reply #594201

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

It is a shame, yes. She wants to go out on her own terms and while she is still playing good basketball rather than waiting until she is no longer wanted, and I totally respect that.
But from a selfish viewpoint, even when she slows down even further she'd still be an instant inclusion in the 2018 WC team due to her basketball iq. She's the Opals all-time leader in that category, with daylight in second place and night time in 3rd.


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Anonymous
Last year
11:23 10 Aug 16

Reply #594206

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

It's entirely possible she knows her body won't hold up another year. She's missed a lot of time since she went down with the ACL.


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Luuuc
Last year
11:33 10 Aug 16

Reply #594207

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

The time she has missed (other than the ACL recovery itself) was all voluntary though. She has just been super smart with her workload, with the aim of being 100% for these Olympics and then being able to have a crack at one last WNBA title when they're over. Skipping the last WNBA season, opting for a partial Chinese season over playing WNBL ... she has timed it perfectly. The ultimate pro.

I've got no doubt she could manage her body through another 2 years if she wanted to. She just doesn't want to, and fair enough too. It'd be a long commitment for very little financial reward. (If 2018 was an Olympic year rather than a WC one, I suspect it might be a different story)


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XY
Last year
11:38 10 Aug 16

Reply #594208

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

2019 is the next WCs (not 2018).

That extra year will see a lot of aging players retire from international basketball after this Olympics.


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paul
Last year
11:44 10 Aug 16

Reply #594209

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

Women in 2018, men in 2019.


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Anonymous
Last year
11:50 10 Aug 16

Reply #594214

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

In related news, I read Brondello has been prepping Taylor for an ass't gig with the Mercury.


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Anonymous
Last year
11:58 10 Aug 16

Reply #594217

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

Following that up with a link to the article about Brondello and Taylor
http://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/brondello-knows-opals-have-game-to-beat-usa/3073137/


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Luuuc
Last year
12:17 10 Aug 16

Reply #594220

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

Sandy might be mentoring herself out of a job the way Phoenix is travelling this season.


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Anonymous
Last year
13:44 10 Aug 16

Reply #594239

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

Players most likely to play at next international tournaments
Lavey
Ebzery
Jarry
Talbot
Tolo
Cambage

Probably last major tournament (world's/olympics)
Mitchell
Phillips
Taylor
Hodges
George
Burton

Thats a hell of a lot of experience to lose.

Definitely a major rebuilding phase after rio.






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XY
Last year
13:49 10 Aug 16

Reply #594243

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

Apologies for incorrectly correcting you Luuuc


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koberulz
Last year
13:52 10 Aug 16

Reply #594247

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

Women in 2018, men in 2019.
Why are they staggering them?


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Andy
Last year
14:15 10 Aug 16

Reply #594255

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

Anon, George and Burton are the same age as Tolo, why wouldn't they be playing the worlds at age 29?
Mitchell and Phillips would be 33, younger than what Taylor is now, if they want to keep playing I would think both would be capable.


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paul
Last year
14:23 10 Aug 16

Reply #594260

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

Kobz, FIBA created a new calendar for men based on getting more of the best players at the WC. The main strategy to achieve that is making the WC the qualifier for the Olympics, hence the move to the year beforehand.

Another strategy is having only one continental championship every four years (currently every two) so players have one year every four where there isn't a tournament in the off-season. FIBA decided to make that the middle year (ie 2018, 2022 etc) and have the women’s WC as the showpiece basketball event of that year.


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Anonymous
Last year
14:47 10 Aug 16

Reply #594265

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

I think Tolo is the better player over the other 2 both at centre and pf.
IMO both George and burton will be replaced by some of the younger players.

Maybe
SF/PF
6'2 K.Froling-wnbl
6'2 Blicavs-wnbl
PF
6'3 A.Froling-college
6'3 Aokuso-Coe
6'4 Smith-college
6'5 Mijovic-wnbl
C
6'4 Magbegor-Coe
6'5 Scherf-wnbl
6'5 Bunton-Wnbl

I could be wrong..
Burton and George might outperform some of these girls in 3 years time.
Interesting times though..


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koberulz
Last year
15:07 10 Aug 16

Reply #594268

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

So the changes to the international schedule only apply to the men?


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Anonymous
Last year
17:49 10 Aug 16

Reply #594287

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

^^ Burton and George if they have not improved by now another three years will not make much difference, they will just be even slower, Blicavs, SCHERF and Bunton will be in their prime with plenty of experience under their belts too


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Anonymous
Last year
17:51 10 Aug 16

Reply #594288

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

Rest will still be in college and NO experience playing against women, those in the WNBL would be better than the college kids of Smith and Froling, Cof E kids probably still too young


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paul
Last year
18:57 10 Aug 16

Reply #594294

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

At this point Kobz, yes. I believe FIBA are looking at the women's side of things now, but I doubt there is the revenue to run home and away WC qualifiers like the men at this stage.


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Anonymous
Last year
19:57 10 Aug 16

Reply #594295

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

Point is, most of those you are listing will never be any good. In AFL terms they are called list cloggers - average players at a point in time who will never be great.

Get them out of the way while we rebuild after this event.

Seebohm is almost completely unproven but shows promise.

Nice guy - tick
Coaching pedigree - not considered good enough for WNBL
Coach of u17 world champion team - major tick - smart enough to work well with assistants and gifted with a new golden generation of talent.
So, time will tell. Give him the COE gig, let him assist Goriss at u19 worlds and develop him, just like you should the young playing talent coming through.


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paul
Last year
20:22 10 Aug 16

Reply #594296

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

Seebohm was arguably the best coach in the WNBL and I believe he then turned down a contract extension. He's certainly considered good enough.


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Anonymous
Last year
20:33 10 Aug 16

Reply #594298

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

Gorris is out of CofE now he's at the helm of Canberra WNBL , doubt he would be doing un19 worlds


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Anonymous
Last year
20:40 10 Aug 16

Reply #594300

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

Doesn't seebohm head nsw develop now?
Nsw certainly need him.

A lot of our u19 team will become opals in the future. No doubt in my mind.
Our biggest issue is that pf position.

We really don't have any nice young prospects in the wnbl atm for that position.
Too old or undersized.
Mijovic, Thompson and Garbin Spring to mind.

Froling has been fantastic at Smu.
Smith hasn't played extensive minutes at Stanford but was one of our best at worlds.
Magbegor still only 17. Too early perhaps.
A few young girls at Coe that are a long way away.


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wayne
Last year
21:10 10 Aug 16

Reply #594304

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

Waiting for end of Olympics stats on Burton and how Joyce could justify her spot.


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paul
Last year
21:21 10 Aug 16

Reply #594305

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

One he would point to for both Burton and Hodges is that in five official internationals this year (3 at OQT, 2 in Rio) Endy Miyem was averaging 15.2p at 60%, 3.4or and 2.6a. Against the Opals she had 10p at 36%, 0 o-boards and 1a.

The two of them did a super job, especially keeping her off the offensive glass.


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Anonymous
Last year
21:25 10 Aug 16

Reply #594306

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

Seebohm was only offered 1 year - hence no longer there. Goriss not at COE but still in Canberra and should coach 19s if any sanity prevails.

Frolings, Scherf, Smith etc. all fringe senior national players at their very best.

Magbegor an undersized centre, definitely not a PF, no range and won't ever have range, can't facilitate. Occasional rim protecting highlights and slashing to the basket will be her thing. Can shot block at low post but can only really defend the 5, not an elite team defender.


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Anonymous
Last year
22:46 10 Aug 16

Reply #594316

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

Undersized?
194cm currently. No doubt she will end up 6'5.


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Anonymous
Last year
23:48 10 Aug 16

Reply #594319

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

College ball is a long way from WNBA/WNBL and the Olympics.....SMU play in one of the weakest comps for women,
Don't compare USA Stewart to the rest in college, she was outstanding from day one, and even she isn't a main player YET for USA.

All these names being thrown around need to be able to make the transition into women's basketball, and those in college now will still be in college by next worlds.

It's not saying any of them aren't good players for their age, but be realistic


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Anonymous
Last year
03:36 11 Aug 16

Reply #594320

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

"College ball is a long way from WNBA/WNBL and the Olympics"

And the WNBL is a long way from the WNBA or even EuroLeague.


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Anonymous
Last year
08:21 11 Aug 16

Reply #594345

re: Olympics: Opals vs France


"College ball is a long way from WNBA/WNBL and the Olympics"

And the WNBL is a long way from the WNBA or even EuroLeague.

That's my point.......


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Camel 31
Last year
16:13 11 Aug 16

Reply #594542

re: Olympics: Opals vs France

There's an old saying in Basketball : ' Get loose .'

I'd be unable to play properly with this Opals coach.
Tooo nervous for me.
Shut up and let them play.


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