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Aussie
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New Australian Boomers Head Coach?

Boti was saying that he had a good talk to Lemanis in the pre season and said he got the impression that he would step down as head coach.

Let's assume that this is true.

Who would you bring in?

I'd go with Bevo.

Thoughts?

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Master Chief
Last year
11:20 22 Oct 16

Reply #603392

re: New Australian Boomers Head Coach?

What's Bevo done to be the best candidate ?


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Aussie
Last year
11:22 22 Oct 16

Reply #603393

re: New Australian Boomers Head Coach?

Coached the U20 team to the Gold medal in 2003


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John
Last year
11:37 22 Oct 16

Reply #603395

re: New Australian Boomers Head Coach?

Should of won more championships in Perth


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Anonymous
Last year
11:49 22 Oct 16

Reply #603396

re: New Australian Boomers Head Coach?

We'd have a team full of NBA players, which would also likely include the bench. Why not bring on a legitimate NBA or NCAA coach to take control?

Nothing against Bevo, but BA has to look toward the US. Why not ask a Brad Stevens, Billy Donovan, Frank Vogel , Jay Wright, maybe Calipari, maybe Shaka Smart?

Would be nice to have a coach of that calibre to take over what could be the best team we've ever had.

Also, if it's a college coach, it would give them good reason to look in Australia to potentially recruit players.

Food for though.


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Anonymous
Last year
12:08 22 Oct 16

Reply #603398

re: New Australian Boomers Head Coach?

Coach D? Worst of both worlds!


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Master Chief
Last year
13:36 22 Oct 16

Reply #603415

re: New Australian Boomers Head Coach?

If AL doesn't want to juggle the role ( I see no reason why he can't or shouldn't ) then there would be nothing wrong with BA being ambitious and looking to the US for a big name coach. I agree, we want to maximise what we can do with this current crop of talent.


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KET
Last year
13:44 22 Oct 16

Reply #603416

re: New Australian Boomers Head Coach?

Adrian Hurley lol


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Luuuc
Last year
13:49 22 Oct 16

Reply #603417

re: New Australian Boomers Head Coach?

It'd be great to see the criteria tweaked (within reason) if it allows Lemanis another term. Loved what I saw in Rio, the continuity would be beneficial to our chances, and the group deserves a shot at redemption.


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KET
Last year
13:49 22 Oct 16

Reply #603418

re: New Australian Boomers Head Coach?

Surely you keep a good thing going?


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_Strungout_
Last year
13:50 22 Oct 16

Reply #603419

re: New Australian Boomers Head Coach?

I hate Steve Blake. He licks all the icing off of Oreos then puts the cookies back in the box


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Luuuc
Last year
13:58 22 Oct 16

Reply #603422

re: New Australian Boomers Head Coach?

I would have said that rules Steve Blake out of getting the job, but we could actually use that to our advantage if we snuck him into the Team USA lunch room before the game.


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Anonymous
Last year
14:18 22 Oct 16

Reply #603434

re: New Australian Boomers Head Coach?

Brian Goorjian or Andrew Gaze please.


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Anonymous
Last year
14:19 22 Oct 16

Reply #603436

re: New Australian Boomers Head Coach?

+1 for Goorjian. That is if Lemanis can't be retained - but he deserves another campaign, based on what we produced in Rio.


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Anonymous
Last year
14:19 22 Oct 16

Reply #603437

re: New Australian Boomers Head Coach?

Gaze? LOL turn it up!


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Anonymous
Last year
14:23 22 Oct 16

Reply #603438

re: New Australian Boomers Head Coach?

If were were going for NBA, I would go for Brown back, but I can't see a NBA head coach getting time to coach a national team. Maybe an assistant coach for the right team.
I'd stick with Lemanis for now.


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_Strungout_
Last year
14:38 22 Oct 16

Reply #603442

re: New Australian Boomers Head Coach?

Hopefully Bevo gets the job ahead of Steve Blake.


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Anonymous
Last year
17:19 22 Oct 16

Reply #603457

re: New Australian Boomers Head Coach?

Any word on Joyce stepping down also?


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Anonymous
Last year
17:46 22 Oct 16

Reply #603463

re: New Australian Boomers Head Coach?

Jeez anyone that thinks Gaze can coach is deluded. Goorjian equally will never return for a part time gig.


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LC
Last year
19:16 22 Oct 16

Reply #603485

re: New Australian Boomers Head Coach?

Why would we want a US coach? We would then be starting from scratch again.

In Rio, the Boomers finally found their identity. It would be a step backwards to bring in a coach that knows little about Aussie hoops, our culture and the way we play.

I was never a big fan of Lemanis, but he turned me around with what he was able to achieve with the team in Rio.

If we did end up with Lemanis remaining at the helm, I'm not sure the likes of Ben Simmons and Thon Maker will come on board as their relationships appear strained at best.


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Anonymous
Last year
21:17 22 Oct 16

Reply #603524

re: New Australian Boomers Head Coach?

If Gaze continues to win he'll be the coach, its what The aussies want


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Anonymous
Last year
22:45 22 Oct 16

Reply #603536

re: New Australian Boomers Head Coach?

Why not go with a European coach, similar styles of play and probably some different ideas.


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rjd
Last year
22:48 22 Oct 16

Reply #603538

re: New Australian Boomers Head Coach?

Agreed, LC. Although I'd hope that Simmons issues were due to immaturity, and Maker's non-appearance in a Boomers singlet was strategic decision so that his deficiencies were not exposed to scouts. Simmons officially withdrew himself from Rio, but even if that was to cover his non-selection, I'd be totally comfortable in the case it was Lemanis's non-selection. Simmons couldn't expect to walk into a major role on the national team with his game as it was.

The new FIBA qualification process surely means we need a coach based in Australia. So if it is part-time, the coach needs a job based in Australia too. This won't be just a coach for major tournaments with NBA-based players. The Boomers team will be predominantly NBL-based for most of the qualification period until the 2019 World Cup. Apart from the home-away FIBA qualification series, there is also the Asia Cup and the Commonwealth Games. Nearly all will comprise of mostly NBL players.

IMO Lemanis is the best choice. He had the Boomers playing their best basketball ever, he is based in Australia, he knows NBL players, and he has experience with the international game. BA ought to do whatever they can to keep Lemanis around. Otherwise, I'd be inclined to try to secure a top proven local coach, someone familiar with our NBL-based players, who also has international experience. Beveridge (coached the 2003 junior team to gold)? Gleeson (assistant in Rio under Lemanis)? McLeod (Boomers assistant in 2008)? Hurley (assistant in Rio under Lemanis, 1988 1992 head coach)? Goorjian would be very capable, but now he is based in China.


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_Strungout_
Last year
22:58 22 Oct 16

Reply #603540

re: New Australian Boomers Head Coach?

Perhaps Joyce could be given the role. He has NBL coaching experience, he spent time with the Boomers and has international head coaching experience with the Opals. He also won't ever have a full time gig with a NBL/WNBL team to worry about.


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Dazz
Last year
23:04 22 Oct 16

Reply #603542

re: New Australian Boomers Head Coach?

Two schools of thought.

If we're predominately going to have players from the NBA, then an NBA coach is a good idea. No need to stick with an Aus-based coach when few of the players are.

Otherwise, I like the idea of a Euro coach. Lets face it, they are our main opposition, and its always the Euro refs that screw us. Why not get someone who knows the players, teams, refs, etc.

Either option is predicated on the ability to get a suitable quality applicant, him wanting to coach another country's team, him being available for the requisite amounts of time.
(Happens all the time in Soccer, but not sure how the Americans feel about such things?)


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Dazz
Last year
23:11 22 Oct 16

Reply #603543

re: New Australian Boomers Head Coach?

The new FIBA qualification process surely means we need a coach based in Australia. So if it is part-time, the coach needs a job based in Australia too. This won't be just a coach for major tournaments with NBA-based players. The Boomers team will be predominantly NBL-based for most of the qualification period until the 2019 World Cup. Apart from the home-away FIBA qualification series, there is also the Asia Cup and the Commonwealth Games. Nearly all will comprise of mostly NBL players.
Sorry but I completely disagree.
As you say, many of the early qualifying games will be NBL players, until the going gets serious. ie the "B" team.
You want your "A" team in play for the WC and Olympics, and that includes the coach. Picking an NBL coach because he would be better able to manage the qualifying process would be self-defeating.
If it comes to it, appoint an NBL coach to the assistant role, and let him handle the rubbish, whilst the actual coach concentrates on the big game.


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shouldhappen
Last year
07:59 23 Oct 16

Reply #603559

re: New Australian Boomers Head Coach?

cannot believe people still doubting Andrew Gazes ability to coach.

The tough D and ball movement the Kings are displaying in Offence is the best in the NBL. A real exciting brand of basketball!!


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KET
Last year
09:25 23 Oct 16

Reply #603569

re: New Australian Boomers Head Coach?

Out of interest, is there any evidence or history that Gaze can't coach?

That inference really cannot be made so far with how the Kings are going.


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shouldhappen
Last year
09:52 23 Oct 16

Reply #603571

re: New Australian Boomers Head Coach?

KET read some of the posts above


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KET
Last year
10:02 23 Oct 16

Reply #603572

re: New Australian Boomers Head Coach?

I've read all of the posts above.

A lot of people like saying Gaze can't coach, but nobody has said why...

Is there a particular coaching experience of his which draws the inference that he isn't up to coaching?


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shouldhappen
Last year
10:13 23 Oct 16

Reply #603573

re: New Australian Boomers Head Coach?

ket,

i think he is a good coach and will become a great coach.

He has great understanding of the game, and worked hard to achieve what he achieved as a player. Cadee and the Kings have grown a leg this yr.


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ME
Last year
10:40 23 Oct 16

Reply #603574

re: New Australian Boomers Head Coach?

Gaze only has four NBL games under his belt. He is doing well but he hardly has the coaching experience to make him a candidate for a top job. I wouldn't mind him as an assistant, but let's be real here.

The best man for the job is Andrej Lemanis. They should exhaust that option to the fullest before looking at anyone else. We need a coach that understands Australian basketball. We don't need some American coach that will have us run some half court type game that doesn't play to our strengths.


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Hoopie
Last year
11:23 23 Oct 16

Reply #603578

re: New Australian Boomers Head Coach?

Lemanis, please. Otherwise a good Euro coach.

Nobody has mentioned Longley. What are his credentials apart from helping Lemanis?


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paul
Last year
11:28 23 Oct 16

Reply #603580

re: New Australian Boomers Head Coach?

What we need is a coach who understands the Australian style of basketball and how to make that effective in the international game, and Lemanis obviously ticks those two boxes very well.

If he decides not to continue I would ask key players if they recommend any of the current assistants and also give Rob Beveridge the chance to present his case, as I think he fits the above criteria too.


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Anonymous
Last year
11:43 23 Oct 16

Reply #603581

re: New Australian Boomers Head Coach?

Andrew Gaze is going well. The bloke has been building himself up since he retired coaching kids on friday nights, then onto big v and seabl. He's now in sydney and done a sterling job so far. Yes it is probably too early to see him become national coach but he's developing and is a name for the future for sure.


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ME
Last year
13:53 23 Oct 16

Reply #603587

re: New Australian Boomers Head Coach?

I wouldn't mind Gaze as an assistance, if only to watch his bewildered expressions at the refs.


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Zodiac
Last year
13:58 23 Oct 16

Reply #603588

re: New Australian Boomers Head Coach?

I would hope Lemanis will come back but if not would be happy with someone like Gaze taking over. Even though Bevo is probably the logical next choice after Lemanis his coaching style doesn't suit the game best suited to the Boomers so would prefer Gaze or even Joey Wright taking over if Lemanis isn't interested.


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Anonymous
Last year
18:26 23 Oct 16

Reply #603677

re: New Australian Boomers Head Coach?

Could Shane Heal be the right man for the job? Doesn't have a NBL gig so would be able to commit more time.


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Anonymous
Last year
18:47 23 Oct 16

Reply #603679

re: New Australian Boomers Head Coach?

I don't have an NBL gig or a WNBL gig either so look out Shane you've got some competition. Hopefully they award the gig to one of us quickly before Dean Demopoulos becomes qualified for the job too.


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fatguy
Last year
07:46 24 Oct 16

Reply #603737

re: New Australian Boomers Head Coach?

last time i saw shane heal he was tweaking off something in the melbourne casino... dude needs help


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