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Anonymous
Two months ago

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Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

Another import down.

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Luuuc
Two months ago
12:08 21 Jan 17

Reply #619980

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

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Anonymous
Two months ago
12:08 21 Jan 17

Reply #619981

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

So much for the coup of signing Beal. Great signing Andre


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Luuuc
Two months ago
12:09 21 Jan 17

Reply #619982

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

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Tom
Two months ago
12:16 21 Jan 17

Reply #619984

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

Good move. Let Kendle play. He will be of more use, esp. if he can get his 3 ball going.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
12:23 21 Jan 17

Reply #619986

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

He's been poor.

This gives the opportunity to give more minutes to kendle.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
12:25 21 Jan 17

Reply #619988

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

Says a lot about him if they're willing to release him with all the injuries and troubles they've had lately.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
12:27 21 Jan 17

Reply #619989

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

Agreed.
Is Beal done in the NBL? You would have to think so the way he has gone this season.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
12:29 21 Jan 17

Reply #619990

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

Even if he can get naturalised, do you think there will be a spot for him in this league next year? As inconsistent as he can be, the guy can play, for the right contract as an Aussie he could be valuable. But not sure if any teams would want that attitude he seems to have atm.


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koberulz
Two months ago
12:31 21 Jan 17

Reply #619991

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

You can give Kendle more minutes by benching Beal, you don't have to sack him. Brisbane are out of the playoff race, and have played 23 games so they can't replace him anyway.

Must be pretty bad.


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wildcats80
Two months ago
12:34 21 Jan 17

Reply #619992

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

Inside word was the cat didnt re sign him purely due too off court issues. Word has it he would be on road trips and go out at night on his Tinder dates. Nothing wrong with that, but I am sure that breaks team rules, but being a star player, they let him get away with it, Brisbane, didnt let him get away with it and it was costing the team.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
12:52 21 Jan 17

Reply #619996

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

He went to shit this year and parts of last season. Not surprised just few bad for the Brisbane fans injuries have decimated a pretty balanced looking roster.


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Kyrie2Nation
Two months ago
13:11 21 Jan 17

Reply #619997

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

My Multi with United 11+ likes this.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
13:11 21 Jan 17

Reply #619998

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

"You can give Kendle more minutes by benching Beal, you don't have to sack him. Brisbane are out of the playoff race, and have played 23 games so they can't replace him anyway."

And what would be the benefit of having him sit on the bench the rest of the season? As you say, they're out of the play-off race, there's no future for you together, you may as well cut ties now.

There doesn't always have to be more than meets the eye. He's been playing very poorly, the team is out of contention, and they want to move on. Best for both parties you would think.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
13:26 21 Jan 17

Reply #619999

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

Yeah was just the right time to cut ties. Looking into it any further is odd. If he was producing and got cut then yeah maybe he has done something stupid... like snapchat something inappropriate ;)


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Maxymoo
Two months ago
13:27 21 Jan 17

Reply #620000

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

Build towards the next season.


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Bill on the ball
Two months ago
13:37 21 Jan 17

Reply #620004

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane


I guess Wildcats were justified to release Beal last year but could not elaborate for professionalism.


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ChairmanOfTheBored
Two months ago
14:31 21 Jan 17

Reply #620013

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

Well i guess that answers my question in the ADL v BRIS thread from Thursday night. Terrible attitude and body language and almost had to be begged to come on to the floor that night. This news is hardly a surprise given that display.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
14:58 21 Jan 17

Reply #620015

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

Wouldn't they have to pay out his contract anyway? Why not keep and bench him?


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Mike
Two months ago
14:59 21 Jan 17

Reply #620016

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

Well Cats still got 2 flags out of him and a finals MVP


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Zodiac
Two months ago
15:37 21 Jan 17

Reply #620019

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

Wouldn't they have to pay out his contract anyway? Why not keep and bench him?


Yes they would have to pay him out for the rest of this season and as he had an option for next season probably even part of next season too.

Have you considered his attitude was that poor Lemanis didn't want it spreading too far into the rest of the team? They might be out of the playoffs but this is their first year back in the league and they need to try and make every post a winner.

Beal's attitude was very poor in the Adelaide game and to be honest I thought they held on to him too long. I would've shown him the door around mid-season.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
15:39 21 Jan 17

Reply #620021

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

Like holding onto Rashad Tucker for too long. "Professionalism" what a lame excuse.


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DaHuzyBru
Two months ago
15:45 21 Jan 17

Reply #620022

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

Ah Dolla, he just didn't click at Brisbane. Let's all remember what he will be known for i.e. this 40-point effort


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koberulz
Two months ago
15:56 21 Jan 17

Reply #620023

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

And what would be the benefit of having him sit on the bench the rest of the season? As you say, they're out of the play-off race, there's no future for you together, you may as well cut ties now.

There doesn't always have to be more than meets the eye.
The benefit is having an extra body, and not dealing with cutting a guy mid-season.

I wouldn't say there's necessarily more than meets the eye, in that his attitude met a lot of eyes in Adelaide, but it must be more frequent/severe than that one game to get him cut.


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Dazz
Two months ago
15:57 21 Jan 17

Reply #620024

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

The timing is curious, but Brissy appear to be out of the finals race, so this does give them the opportunity to give more minutes to others, further their development, and make evaluations pending next season.

It MIGHT also save them some money, depending on how the system works.
Presumably they will have a contractual obligation to pay-out Beal. However since he is nolonger on the roster, may he nolonger counts towards the cap???

Sad to see him go, was always a favourite, but has become increasingly inconsistent.


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koberulz
Two months ago
16:02 21 Jan 17

Reply #620026

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

Why would it matter whether he counts against the cap? They can't replace him.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
16:13 21 Jan 17

Reply #620027

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

why can't they replace him?


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Anonymous
Two months ago
16:20 21 Jan 17

Reply #620031

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

Its another example of players particularly the imports being the scapegoat when the team is playing poorly, instead of the coach taking at some blame.

The 3 import rule has hurt imports like beal who need the ball in his hand regularly to play consistent good basketball but he plays less minutes and therefore doesn't score enough to avoid being sacked.

IMO there are a few other coaches like lemanis need to take blame of their team losing record or missing out on the finals.

Although I don't think there will be any coaches getting the sack at the end of the season, there surely should be at least 2 who should step down because of their inability to get the best of team and not making the finals.


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FSTOS
Two months ago
16:25 21 Jan 17

Reply #620033

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

Beal has never played "consistent good basketball"

With the talent Perth had they could carry him an live on the memory of his lucky chucking days.

Very limited player.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
16:26 21 Jan 17

Reply #620034

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

Beal had the ball in his hand in the two previous games with Brisbane a big shot to win both and two of the dumbest plays I've ever seen, he's had a shit year time to move him on.
Imports also cost more dollars than Aussies, don't perform out the door, that's business.


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Dazz
Two months ago
16:32 21 Jan 17

Reply #620037

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

@Koberstalker, as I said it MIGHT save them a bit of money.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
16:35 21 Jan 17

Reply #620038

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

Awesome Dazz is here. And he and koberulzzzzz are going at it! Yay it's a cats thread officially.


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Dazz
Two months ago
16:35 21 Jan 17

Reply #620039

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

why can't they replace him?

Teams can't add players once they have played 75% of their games, ie they have to add them before they play game #21. As an example, that's why Cairns were so quick to add Mitchell, their 21st game was last night. Brissy played their 21st game last week.


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koberulz
Two months ago
16:35 21 Jan 17

Reply #620040

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

why can't they replace him?
They've played more than 21 games.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
16:55 21 Jan 17

Reply #620044

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

thanks guys I thought that rule was just about qualifying for finals


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Master Chief
Two months ago
16:56 21 Jan 17

Reply #620045

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

If Beal was desperate to remain in the country, you couldn't discount him on his time with Brisbane. I don't know the full story of what went on in Brisbane but he was valuable as a championship player for Perth.


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Zodiac
Two months ago
17:06 21 Jan 17

Reply #620047

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

thanks guys I thought that rule was just about qualifying for finals


I'm pretty sure it is. It's neither here nor there really but I think they cam sign an import to replace Beal but if they made the playoffs it would be too late for that import to qualify to play.

Regardless they're signing a development player when he returns from college this week as his replacement.


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Dazz
Two months ago
17:25 21 Jan 17

Reply #620049

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

thanks guys I thought that rule was just about qualifying for finals
I'm pretty sure it is
No, two separate rules. Team must have played less than 75% of its games to add any player. Then, a player must play at least 25% to qualify for the finals.
So, again with my example. Cairns HAD to sign Mitchell BEFORE last nights game (#21)
now on the off chance they make the finals, he would have to play in 7 of the last 8 games (now 6 of the last 7) to qualify for finals.


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Dazz
Two months ago
17:27 21 Jan 17

Reply #620051

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

Regardless they're signing a development player when he returns from college this week as his replacement.
No, he would already be signed as a DP, but at the moment he is "VISITING colleges" but will suit up when he comes back.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
18:48 21 Jan 17

Reply #620078

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

"The benefit is having an extra body, and not dealing with cutting a guy mid-season."

You'd rather cut a guy mid season and deal with it once rather than have people wondering what is going on seeing him on the bench not to mention the strange atmosphere within team practices and activities


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Dazz
Two months ago
19:13 21 Jan 17

Reply #620099

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

Depends also on the reasons behind the sacking. Even if its purely down to poor on-court performances, it might be better to show others that players not performing to expectations will be dealt with, rather than just watching him good off for the rest of the season.

At this point, Lemanis has made it clear they are looking to the future and next season.


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CT
Two months ago
20:21 21 Jan 17

Reply #620132

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

He was a petulant little arse in Perth by all accounts so I don't doubt he was exactly the same in Brisbane too. Lemanis is all about team culture and wouldn't have stood for it.

Sad when an obviously talented player goes off the rails like this, but good decision by Brisbane.


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BOL
Two months ago
20:58 21 Jan 17

Reply #620158

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

I will miss his direct and to the point media interviews


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Anonymous
Two months ago
21:21 21 Jan 17

Reply #620165

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

Not a fan of the character assassinations after the fact. Gleeson was lemanis' assistant in the national team so even though they are competitors I'm sure lemanis would've asked Gleeson for a character reference before he signed him.

From what I've seen of Beal for the past couple of months, there's more than enough evidence that his on court performance was the source of his downfall. NBL stats aren't the easiest thing to retrieve but I'm pretty sure his numbers make for atrocious reading of late.


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Zodiac
Two months ago
21:30 21 Jan 17

Reply #620168

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

Beal 2016-17:

23g 11.2p, 2.5r, 2.1a, 37.1% FG, 31.2% 3pts

http://basketball.realgm.com/international/league/5/Australian-NBL/stats


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Anonymous
Two months ago
21:51 21 Jan 17

Reply #620170

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

He's been in the country a while now, perhaps he should look to sign with a SEABL team in order to remain in the country and get citizenship.

He'd be good in the NBL as an Australian player off the bench to run the offense with the second unit.


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Dazz
Two months ago
22:00 21 Jan 17

Reply #620175

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

Depends on what offers he can get now.
I don't know if being sacked by two NBL teams would make him too eager to hang around Aus in hopes of playing for a 3rd?
He'll probably try and pick up gigs in some of the lesser leagues around the world. Hanging around to get naturalised, so he can come off the bench on low dollars for some random team, doesn't sound like much of a career prospect.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
22:16 21 Jan 17

Reply #620179

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

Perth didn't sack him


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koberulz
Two months ago
22:47 21 Jan 17

Reply #620189

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

From what I've seen of Beal for the past couple of months, there's more than enough evidence that his on court performance was the source of his downfall.
You don't get sacked 23 games into the season based purely on on-court performance.

Hanging around to get naturalised, so he can come off the bench on low dollars for some random team, doesn't sound like much of a career prospect.
He and his family are apparently quite fond of Australia, so he might see it as worthwhile to stick around.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
23:00 21 Jan 17

Reply #620193

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

yes although it might not seem quite as worthwhile if his value drops too far


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Anonymous
Two months ago
23:07 21 Jan 17

Reply #620194

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

Travelling inside and out of the country on a regular basis doesn't make you a candidate for naturalising.


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Dazz
Two months ago
03:01 22 Jan 17

Reply #620218

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

He's a professional basketballer, with a limited window to earn semi-decent money, before trying to start another career.
People are saying "he'd be great to have coming off the bench as an Aussie," so sure, but how much is that going to pay. Australia is NOT a cheap place to live. If you're an Aussie who is only good enough to play SBL and come of the bench in the NBL, you do it because you've got no better options, and you hope you'll be good at selling real-estate.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
10:31 22 Jan 17

Reply #620240

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

"You don't get sacked 23 games into the season based purely on on-court performance."

Why not?

Especially when the team is out of play-off contention and you're probably on a one-year contract and the team has seen enough that they know you won't be a part of future plans.


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koberulz
Two months ago
19:18 22 Jan 17

Reply #620501

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

Because there's no point going through the hassle given you can't replace him. And it's not like he's been great at any point this year.


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AKA
Two months ago
11:52 23 Jan 17

Reply #620631

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

I'm sure the on court performance from Beal was a factor but it isn't the sole reason behind the sacking.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
11:53 23 Jan 17

Reply #620633

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

NBL statement coming this week?


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Anonymous
Two months ago
12:16 23 Jan 17

Reply #620637

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

Of course he can be replaced.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
12:35 23 Jan 17

Reply #620641

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

He probably ran out of Brisbane girls to keep him busy, same as in Perth.


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Perth Wilburs
Two months ago
12:39 23 Jan 17

Reply #620643

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

I thought Beal has a partner/wife and a child?


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Chairman Of The Bored
Two months ago
14:11 23 Jan 17

Reply #620660

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

And a whole packet of crumpets on the side?


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Dazz
Two months ago
17:47 23 Jan 17

Reply #620679

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

Beal did have a partner and at least one child. The impression I got was that they were meeting up for holidays, but hadn't permanently accompanied him. Probably difficult when pro-ball moves him around so much.

For those perpetuating allegations about his relationships, I would note that such things would be highly unlikely to effect on-court performance, and equally unlikely to lead directly to his sacking from two teams.

End of the day, his on-court performances became inconsistent at Perth. He'd have some great games, followed by some where he just couldn't find the hoop. He won 2 'ships for us, so that's still pretty impressive, but Perth thought they could do better. Ancient History now. At Brissy he did not perform to expectations. You can speculate that there may have been off-court behaviour driving that, but I still think the bottom line is that he was judged on performance.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
18:00 23 Jan 17

Reply #620683

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

Dazz. Do some research into Rashad Tucker and the come back and apologise. Yet another guess from Dazz.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
19:08 23 Jan 17

Reply #620694

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

strange you say that dazz considering you previously posted this
''There were rumours about Beal, including supposed reasons for some of his "off" nights.''


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Dazz
Two months ago
19:35 23 Jan 17

Reply #620697

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

strange you say that dazz considering you previously posted this
''There were rumours about Beal, including supposed reasons for some of his "off" nights.''

Sorry if I have been unclear, and that appears inconsistent.

To be honest, I regret repeating those rumours. Beal was a champ for us, and I'm sad for him that he's been let go again.

But allow me to clarify, and at this point I'm talking hypothetically.
A player could boff every skank in Brissy, and STILL turn up to play. Fact is you could be engaged in all many of illegal activities, and it wouldn't necessarily effect your performance. You could be robbing grog shops in your spare time, and still be a shit-hot baller.

On the other hand, you could be a perfectly normal bloke, enjoy a few cold bevies with your mates, but if you overindulged and stayed out late the night before a big game, that could easily effect your on-court performance.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
20:30 23 Jan 17

Reply #620703

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

"Because there's no point going through the hassle given you can't replace him. And it's not like he's been great at any point this year."

What hassle? Public seem to be accepting of this decision as it makes sense. Hassle has amounted to one brief media release.

And whilst he can't be replaced by another import, it does open more time for guys they are interested in having a look at, without the real *hassle* of trying to explain in press conferences and interviews "why is Beal on the bench?"


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koberulz
Two months ago
21:49 23 Jan 17

Reply #620712

re: Jermaine Beal sacked by Brisbane

What hassle? Public seem to be accepting of this decision as it makes sense. Hassle has amounted to one brief media release.
Pretty sure you can't terminate a contract just by issuing a press release saying you're doing so.


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