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Anonymous
Last month

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Kings vs United February 4th

Previous Meeting this season.
R10 kings 81 to United 88
R8 United 95 to Kings 92
R6 United 71 to Kings 87

United lead series 2-1.

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Anonymous
Last month
10:07 4 Feb 17

Reply #622333

re: Kings vs United February 4th

Second thread of kings v United.


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ROFLcopter
Last month
11:17 4 Feb 17

Reply #622341

re: Kings vs United February 4th

I think the Kings will win.

United lacking heart & Kings have been better of late.


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Indominus-Rex
Last month
12:32 4 Feb 17

Reply #622351

re: Kings vs United February 4th

I'm tipping United by 9+ Goulding to put on a clinic.

Fun fact, I'm pretty sure that the Sydney Kings have not beat United in Sydney since United changed their name

There is a slight chance that I'm wrong on that fact as it's just from memory, but if I'm right, it's pretty impressive!


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Johnson
Last month
13:12 4 Feb 17

Reply #622365

re: Kings vs United February 4th

It's a grand final situation for Melbourne and expect them to play with desperation.I'm hoping Melbourne get the W so the Hawks are in the playoffs.


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Luuuc
Last month
15:23 4 Feb 17

Reply #622382

re: Kings vs United February 4th

According to the Soc. Med's it's going to be a seriously huge crowd for this one. Great news.

Carn United! Time to show us that daylight.


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LV
Last month
15:45 4 Feb 17

Reply #622383

re: Kings vs United February 4th

United have won the last 2, the only Kings win was when United was missing CG, Blanchfield and between Jackson and Ware. And it took a Lisch special in the last to kick away to a comfortable lead.

For some reason I feel quietly confident that United will get a win.

Hope I'm right cos if they lose its extremely hard from here! Would need 3 in a row and probably be relying on a split


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SteveK2
Last month
15:48 4 Feb 17

Reply #622384

re: Kings vs United February 4th

Inside word is booking just passed 10,600. Well on track to hit 11k which will be the biggest crowd this season. Looks like Syd crowd warming up to NBL after all.


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cats 4 life
Last month
16:49 4 Feb 17

Reply #622390

re: Kings vs United February 4th

Great for the kings and for the nbl! Bout time I reckon, now they got to turn it on and make a statement. Top 4 is on the line for United.

Kings at home will get the w


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AussiePride
Last month
19:00 4 Feb 17

Reply #622433

re: Kings vs United February 4th

I have backed Sydney to win which is a little strange considering they have let me down on every occasion I have put money on them before.

I hope they win and it is a good game in front of the big crowd for the sake of basketball, not for any personal benefit I may receive.


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Zodiac
Last month
19:24 4 Feb 17

Reply #622449

re: Kings vs United February 4th

Good to hear Casey doing the game


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SteveK2
Last month
19:25 4 Feb 17

Reply #622450

re: Kings vs United February 4th

Refs are Matt Beattie, Michael Aylen and Matt Townsend. Buckle up for a crap reffing night folks! Aylen and Townsend have been atrocious lately.


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Anonymous
Last month
19:29 4 Feb 17

Reply #622452

re: Kings vs United February 4th

Aylen has been my most hated ref this year, makes some shocking calls


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Very Old
Last month
19:37 4 Feb 17

Reply #622455

re: Kings vs United February 4th

and for those who dont know

matt beatie

http://www-static.spulsecdn.net/pics/00/03/20/79/3207914_1_O.jpg

matt Townsend

http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/referee-matt-townsend-looks-on-with-a-bandage-in-his-nose-after-a-picture-id163848032

Aylen ( on the right ;) )

http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/trevor-gleeson-coach-of-the-wildcats-questions-referee-michael-aylen-picture-id513282744?s=594x594


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Anonymous
Last month
19:42 4 Feb 17

Reply #622456

re: Kings vs United February 4th

How big is the crowd? Looks large


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Anonymous
Last month
19:51 4 Feb 17

Reply #622460

re: Kings vs United February 4th

Kings are just horrid


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Luuuc
Last month
19:51 4 Feb 17

Reply #622461

re: Kings vs United February 4th

Crowd almost as big as the margin :O


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AC
Last month
19:51 4 Feb 17

Reply #622462

re: Kings vs United February 4th

Newley and Melbourne both playing for playoffs spots. Not sure about the rest of them.


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Btown
Last month
19:56 4 Feb 17

Reply #622467

re: Kings vs United February 4th

Kings making life difficult as they travel to Perth for their last game.


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Anonymous
Last month
20:03 4 Feb 17

Reply #622469

re: Kings vs United February 4th


Johnson Casey's voice going up a couple of octaves


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SteveK2
Last month
20:06 4 Feb 17

Reply #622471

re: Kings vs United February 4th

Craig Moller is definitely a keeper for the Kings. His rebounding and energy along with Newley are the main things keeping the Kings in the game.


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Luuuc
Last month
20:10 4 Feb 17

Reply #622473

re: Kings vs United February 4th

Good finish to the half and at least it's potentially a contest again.
Was looking real ugly for a while there.


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Tom
Last month
20:10 4 Feb 17

Reply #622474

re: Kings vs United February 4th

Game of 2 quarters. Q1 United Q2 Sydney. Newley fantastic but really short of gallop.Melbourne better team and there's to lose. Sydney need to hang around and hope they have a chance to steal it.


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Anonymous
Last month
20:13 4 Feb 17

Reply #622477

re: Kings vs United February 4th

If the Kings win how much harder is the equation for the breakers to play finals.

I know that if kings win tonight and lose next week to Perth and The Breakers win at home against Melbourne both teams will finish with a 14-14 record.


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SteveK2
Last month
20:19 4 Feb 17

Reply #622479

re: Kings vs United February 4th

I've said it before and I'll say it again. The key to United is to shut both Ware and Goulding from the perimeter with tight man to man, force them to drive with help defense waiting inside and the third person rotating to cut off the inside pass. Force others to beat you from the perimeter. Kings didn't do that in the first one and a half quarters.


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SteveK2
Last month
20:25 4 Feb 17

Reply #622481

re: Kings vs United February 4th

Well there you go... they're doing what I said now... lets see how smart they are to keep it up.


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Luuuc
Last month
20:30 4 Feb 17

Reply #622482

re: Kings vs United February 4th

2 point game now


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Kyrie2Nation
Last month
20:30 4 Feb 17

Reply #622483

re: Kings vs United February 4th

Love seeing Goulding brick so much. Can't believe he's a Boomer.


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MidRange
Last month
20:32 4 Feb 17

Reply #622484

re: Kings vs United February 4th

Ware has been a bit stiff on his drive


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SteveK2
Last month
20:38 4 Feb 17

Reply #622487

re: Kings vs United February 4th

Wow that's the Lakers version of Powell there...


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Kyrie2Nation
Last month
20:41 4 Feb 17

Reply #622488

re: Kings vs United February 4th

Goulding and Ware were woeful that quarter.


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Air Delay
Last month
21:01 4 Feb 17

Reply #622491

re: Kings vs United February 4th

The two kids have been a really good spark for the Kings tonight.


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Luuuc
Last month
21:02 4 Feb 17

Reply #622492

re: Kings vs United February 4th

Andersen with the dagger


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Air Delay
Last month
21:03 4 Feb 17

Reply #622494

re: Kings vs United February 4th

Anderson has been the difference. Jeeeeeeeeee zus!


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RedArmy
Last month
21:06 4 Feb 17

Reply #622497

re: Kings vs United February 4th

Impressive win by United. Sydney are terrible at home!


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SteveK2
Last month
21:07 4 Feb 17

Reply #622498

re: Kings vs United February 4th

Heh Kings are pretty much done. The game is pretty much lost due to Gaze's coaching this time. Pretty embarrassing to get out-coached by DD. :)


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Very Old
Last month
21:17 4 Feb 17

Reply #622502

re: Kings vs United February 4th

Three teams played tonight with their coaches.


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Very Old
Last month
21:18 4 Feb 17

Reply #622503

re: Kings vs United February 4th

Without ^


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SteveK2
Last month
21:23 4 Feb 17

Reply #622505

re: Kings vs United February 4th

Three? Gaze, Joey and who? I haven't watched Sixers vs Breakers yet but heard Joey got booted.


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Dazz
Last month
21:46 4 Feb 17

Reply #622509

re: Kings vs United February 4th

Well I think that's it for Sydney.
Even if they could beat Perth next week, I don't know that 14 wins would do it.
And I don't think they can beat Perth at home.


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Triton 70
Last month
21:48 4 Feb 17

Reply #622510

re: Kings vs United February 4th

Thank God we didn't give Gaze a 3yr deal.


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Anonymous
Last month
22:07 4 Feb 17

Reply #622512

re: Kings vs United February 4th

As a token Coach Gaze is as good as he is a SEABL coach. Pathetic. JVG needs to be removed from player selections as well. As a long term fan the Kings are still average. Yet the money they now are spending is obscene.
Questions need to be asked at the end of the season and I for one would sack Gaze immediately.
If Goorj does go the MU the Kings should have appointed an interim Coach this season, and signed Goorj a season ago. Vickerman can coach apparently but after this season I do wonder. LC will always be Head Party Coach.


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Anonymous
Last month
22:14 4 Feb 17

Reply #622515

re: Kings vs United February 4th

it was still a good game today and the big crowd got there moneys worth even though it wasn't a win


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Anonymous
Last month
22:17 4 Feb 17

Reply #622517

re: Kings vs United February 4th

Wow. The crowd turned up to see the KIngs at there worst. That won't last long. Nothing has changed it seems at the Kings. Great crowds mediocre sides.


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Air Delay
Last month
22:21 4 Feb 17

Reply #622519

re: Kings vs United February 4th

Tough to win when 3 players combined for 100 minutes, for 28 points on 7/28 (or thereabouts) shooting.
Whit, Cadee & Lisch.
Kings O is simply way to overstructured.


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Zodiac
Last month
22:53 4 Feb 17

Reply #622523

re: Kings vs United February 4th

Thank God we didn't give Gaze a 3yr deal.


You did.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-04-02/andrew-gaze-appointed-head-coach-sydney-kings/7294364


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SteveK2
Last month
00:06 5 Feb 17

Reply #622535

re: Kings vs United February 4th

Kings O is simply way to overstructured


Sorry Air Delay, going to contradict you on that claim. Tonight's game actually showed that Gaze was lacking variety in offensive structures. That 4th quarter was particularly telling.

You probably think the Kings O was overstructured because it appears that they spent too much time trying to set up their half-court offense every time down as opposed to trying to fast break.

DD may be derided as a crap coach by most on this forum but he had the Kings' measure this season for sure and he knew that if he let the Kings run their fast break, United was toast. He made sure his guards slowed Lisch & Cadee, deny outlet passes and get the bigs to run back on defense ASAP.

Gaze failed to get his guys to force the fast breaks and were forced to settle into their half-court offense which predictably consisted of failed shuffle rubbish with guys standing around and settling for outside jumpers with the shot clock ticking down. Betcha Gazey going to complain that he got them 'good' shots but they are not falling in.


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Anonymous
Last month
07:29 5 Feb 17

Reply #622545

re: Kings vs United February 4th

After listening to the Gaze press conference I sometimes think he's watching a different game to me.
Great night,fantastic crowd,the kings are back. Got to win in Perth for any chance of finals but other than a few dumb losses great first season under the new owners.


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Air Delay
Last month
10:17 5 Feb 17

Reply #622551

re: Kings vs United February 4th

I'd agree with that @SteveK2 : )

Kings looked pretty good off their pick and rolls & off ball picks on the wings, but too much traffic with the shuffle in the high posts doesn't encourage or allow much penetration from the top.


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paul
Last month
13:50 5 Feb 17

Reply #622589

re: Kings vs United February 4th

Kings had so many open looks and just missed them, especially early in the game. Cadee went 3/7 from range and the rest of the team was 2/18!!

If you look over the last 8-10 games Cadee has been hot from outside but no one else has gone with him.

Had Lisch been his normal shooting self they're in the playoffs, but I guess that again comes back to poor recruiting in not filling that third guard spot.


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paul
Last month
13:53 5 Feb 17

Reply #622590

re: Kings vs United February 4th

BTW it was nice to see Dave Andersen play like Dave Andersen! Sydney with a very reactive, international-style defence which made him feel very comfortable.

Interesting the NZ struggled defensively under Vickerman the year the league was called tightly (2013/14) and Sydney's D was great early this season when it was physical, but since the crackdown started around R6-ish they have struggled.



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Triton 70
Last month
14:24 5 Feb 17

Reply #622596

re: Kings vs United February 4th

@Zodiac Makes sense, considering his track record as a coach.


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Anonymous
Last month
15:16 5 Feb 17

Reply #622618

re: Kings vs United February 4th

Cadee didn't make his first three till the 3rd quarter, and his last two threes were when the game was at the death and only made the margin smaller. MDW looked good in his few minutes and should've got more time.


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Wookie
Last month
11:00 6 Feb 17

Reply #622958

re: Kings vs United February 4th

So even a few days on, that effort still stings... Over 11,000 people (just) turned out to watch them play and the only player that doesn't come out flat is Newls... Allowing 30pts in the first quarter, with absolutely ZERO help defence from teammates, crap double teams/poor rotations allowing United's multiple outside shooters to get very easy and open shots was just pathetic, and as a Kings fan, I'm fucking sick of it...

Sure, Dave Andersen has found his form again (once again, the Kings are the team to get a player back into their groove) and hit some pretty tough shots, but there is no excuses for the way the Kings came out and played for most of the game...

11,000 people pumped up for an awesome game and the atmosphere started off great, even the vibe beforehand was amazing. You could feel the excitement from everyone, something that hasn't happened at Kings games, especially on that scale, for a very long time. And they give THAT sort of performance... It was like they were TRYING to lose... After that first quarter, the crowd was dying... It didn't take much to get them pumped up, it was like they were willing the Kings to do SOMETHING to get them cheering again, but to no avail...

At one point, not sure what Unitard player it was, but they'd gotten away from their defender just after halfway, and there was only another United player guarded by Powell just outside of the key near the baseline... The United player just strolled into the key for an easy score with Powell doing nothing... Our imports, apart from small spurts, have been frigging awful... Their lack of enthusiasm and effort on the court has been embarrassing and seriously cost us games this season and Saturday nights effort was one of the worst... Whittington was wandering off with his head in the clouds and at one point during our FTs in teh 2nd half, walked back to the bench like he wanted to be subbed off and then looked to sook when it was Powell who got the (undeserved) rest...

Looking at how other teams are scrapping to win tight games and then looking at the Kings is disheartening... Such a great start to the season, a lot of great moves to build the team up and a BUNCH of improvement off the court, and it comes down to pissing the season away and losing more games than actually getting beaten...

Having a coach that isn't getting the job done for whatever reason is one thing, or even getting beaten by better teams when you've done your best is even understandable, but consistently putting in poor efforts like the Kings have this season is just unacceptable in my book...


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