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Brisbane Bullets future?

Does anyone else have concerns about the Bullets future?

Playing at the horrible Brisbane Convention and Entertainmant Centre, 4,000 capacity and rarely filling it up. Pretty bad for the 3rd largest city in Australia.

Very little activity from fans on Facebook.

It's a shame because, I believe, they have a great coach and 3 great assistance in Downer, Bruton and Mackinnon.

Also, Richard Clarke did and great job in NZ but appears to have little impact in Brisbane.

So why the lack of support and popularity? Is it simply not winning consistently? Lack of community engagement? Lack of funds? Or is there more too it?

I personally don't like the look of their future.

Thoughts?

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Aussie
Last year
11:52 7 Dec 17

Reply #660512

re: Brisbane Bullets future?

* sorry about the spelling errors


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Anonymous
Last year
11:58 7 Dec 17

Reply #660513

re: Brisbane Bullets future?

NO one was interested in financially investing into a new franchise for a long period of time. it goes back to the NBL days and the (false belief IMO) that they "had to be there" because it was an important TV market.
Bleeding millions I assume.


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Isaac
Last year
12:02 7 Dec 17

Reply #660514

re: Brisbane Bullets future?

Still early days. Takes a while for these things to pick up and become meaningful enough to people that they attend every game and discuss online each day.

Need some continuity with key players (including imports) for one thing.

They seem to lack a project player that fans can watch develop over time. Someone like McCarron or Creek.


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Aussie
Last year
12:12 7 Dec 17

Reply #660515

re: Brisbane Bullets future?

They have Kenyon and Fullarton who could be great NBL players IMO.

They barely get 1 minute of court time.

No wonder young guys prefer College over the NBL in their teens


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AshT
Last year
12:22 7 Dec 17

Reply #660517

re: Brisbane Bullets future?

A team that plays with more heart and don't throw away games through embarrassing save-it tactics would help a lot. Hopefully they can build of their latest form revival.


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AngusH
Last year
12:56 7 Dec 17

Reply #660518

re: Brisbane Bullets future?

They are in dire need of some success. They are a pretty fun team to watch outside of all the throwing away leads business... All that money tied up in Bairstow really hurt them with his injuries, and that same cash thrown at an impact level import and it's probably a very different story for them.

I kinda feel like they have made similar mistakes to the Kings in terms of the balance of talent they've brought in. Not to the same degree, but similar enough to also account for some of their lack of success.


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NJS
Last year
12:58 7 Dec 17

Reply #660519

re: Brisbane Bullets future?

Kenyon's been out for the last 6 weeks in a moon boot.

Living in Brisbane, they're being promoted more than I've ever known them to be since the very early 90's.

I think it comes down to winning... simple as that.
Brisbane people love a winner, and if they can start doing that we won't be having this conversation.

Hopefully that starts this afternoon in NZ. I keep waiting/hoping for everything to click.


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Reality
Last year
13:07 7 Dec 17

Reply #660521

re: Brisbane Bullets future?

Bullets getting plenty of airtime and promotion around town as outside of Cricket and RWC final not a lot has been going on so they are getting a pretty clear crack at the average punter in SE QLD.

Biggest issue is without winning regularly the casual fan does other things as its a very outdoors culture up here compared to Melbourne and even Sydney as the weather is either perfect or bloody wet!

Give it more time and it will build but early signs aren't great to be honest


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NBL Fan
Last year
13:13 7 Dec 17

Reply #660524

re: Brisbane Bullets future?

There is no benefit to becoming a member. Poor social media presence. Poorly scheduled games at the Entertainment Centre. Club doesn't respond to emails. Zero community/public engagement.

I haven't seen a whole lot of promotion either.

A general feeling of a team that cares about your wallet more than they care about you, which is true for all sports teams but at least they appreciate their fans.


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Aussie
Last year
13:13 7 Dec 17

Reply #660525

re: Brisbane Bullets future?

"Living in Brisbane, they're being promoted more than I've ever known them to be since the very early 90's."

That's fantastic to hear, hope they keep it up


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Aussie
Last year
13:17 7 Dec 17

Reply #660527

re: Brisbane Bullets future?

What is the participation rates like for kids playing basketball in Brissie?


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Anonymous
Last year
15:12 7 Dec 17

Reply #660540

re: Brisbane Bullets future?

If LK's cash and efforts went into the Crocs instead of these muppets in Brisbane(who never wanted a team) you wouldn't have to be worried about Bris.


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LoveBroker
Last year
15:16 7 Dec 17

Reply #660541

re: Brisbane Bullets future?

"If LK's cash and efforts went into the Crocs instead of these muppets in Brisbane(who never wanted a team) you wouldn't have to be worried about Bris."

Did you see the embarassing crowd numbers at the embarassing RSL club the Crocs were playing out of?

The reason you go to a smaller venue is so you don't need to curtain up the empty seats.


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NannasAlwaysRight
Last year
16:47 7 Dec 17

Reply #660548

re: Brisbane Bullets future?

The current mix of teams is fine.
Brisbane in my opinion needs to be in the competition.
If Cairns has succeeded then Brisbane being the capital of the state should.
Groupon codes might need to be sent around to get a few people in.
Maybe its high time the rich clubs fork out for the struggling clubs. In good and bad times, everyone needs a little help.
Yes, NZ and Perth and Melbourne would be forced to shell out money but for the sake of the league, it might have to be factored in


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Anonymous
Last year
17:13 7 Dec 17

Reply #660551

re: Brisbane Bullets future?

Groupon tix. JUst give em away like the old days.


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Anonymous
Last year
17:43 7 Dec 17

Reply #660556

re: Brisbane Bullets future?

Problems:

- poor community engagement
- poor game night experience
- poorly scheduled games

... among other things like a large number of members still not having received their passes.

Didn't help that the initial staff hired to run everything had no previous experience with basketball, and here we are.

A real shame as participation rates in SEQ have never been higher.


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skull
Last year
19:53 7 Dec 17

Reply #660566

re: Brisbane Bullets future?

Patience....


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Anonymous
Last year
20:46 7 Dec 17

Reply #660573

re: Brisbane Bullets future?

Second year expansion team. It takes time.


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Isaac
Last year
09:31 8 Dec 17

Reply #660600

re: Brisbane Bullets future?

If LK's cash and efforts went into the Crocs instead of these muppets in Brisbane(who never wanted a team) you wouldn't have to be worried about Bris
Crocs got money from the league at varying points during their fade out. Brisbane is a better investment for the league.

Their roster is fairly competent, but entering during a talented period so going to be hard up against it in being a solid contender.


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Anonymous
Last year
12:59 8 Dec 17

Reply #660630

re: Brisbane Bullets future?

Bullets have now lost 12 consecutive road games. Including last season.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/basketball/brisbane-bullets-suffer-twelfth-straight-away-loss-to-new-zealand-breakers/news-story/429754a3c111f5f86f181d3ba1548292

Isaac the NBL owns the Bullets and there should be no reason that they should not be able to compete talent wise.


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tonsilzz
Last year
00:48 9 Dec 17

Reply #660743

re: Brisbane Bullets future?

who cares. if bullets can't compete off the court then let then fold and find a team who can. should be no different than townsville crocs


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koberulz
Last year
01:39 9 Dec 17

Reply #660746

re: Brisbane Bullets future?

Except Fox didn't put anything in their TV contract about a Townsville team being necessary.

No Bullets, no Fox. No Fox, no sponsors.


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Jim Bert
Last year
09:04 9 Dec 17

Reply #660750

re: Brisbane Bullets future?

The Brisbane market was frozen out for close to a decade. Give it time.

A boost in stadium infrastructure would help in the same way it did for Perth, although that's still some way off (see Brisbane Live proposal).


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Ben
Last year
18:16 9 Dec 17

Reply #660830

re: Brisbane Bullets future?

Nothing wrong with stadiums imo, Southbank and Boondall serve their purposes well and can hold the fort for the time being.

Expecting healthy crowds to fight through godawful traffic and attend either venue on a school night for a 630pm tip-off is another thing. I live 10km from each and it takes me 90 minutes on a good run. Changing the start times to 730 would be a good step to fattening crowds.


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Haz
Last year
18:37 9 Dec 17

Reply #660831

re: Brisbane Bullets future?

Seems to be a lot of easy and common sense solutions such as schduling tip off time, day of the week, promotion, engagement etc. So why arent these things implemented? What's being done about it?

Winning games is one thing and it would help, but if you can fix the things that are in your control then why dont they?

No denying Brisbane is a tough market. Even though the Bullets are essentially an expansion team that needs time to get going again, they still have a lot of history and have been around a long time. Most of which in the last 15 years havent been good at all.


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