Benno
Two years ago

Essendon pushing for NBL team.


The Essendon football club has ramped up its push to secure a licence for a basketball team in the NBL.

And the Bombers want Australian great Andrew Bogut to be their franchise player.

Sportsday newsbreaker Mitch Cleary delivered the news on Wednesday.

He said Bogut, an Essendon supporter, was currently on the outer in the NBA and looked a viable option.

"He's the man they’ll target," he said.

“This story is red hot.”

https://www.3aw.com.au/essendon-pushing-for-nbl-team-linked-with-big-name-signing/

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Fryz  
Two years ago

Is this the first time in history a team has had a player lined up before a license?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Not a fan. The AFL have brought out some shotty products lately.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Big fan of cross sport teams. Barcelona and Real Madrid two prominent examples on the world scale that not just make it work but thrive. The Nou Camp is a site to behold with its joint sports and rich history associated with the brand.

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SteveK2  
Two years ago

Interesting but even if they push hard and expedite the process, I reckon they won't make 18/19 season since venues need to be set-up in advance. 19/20 is more realistic, in the meantime Crivelli and JVG probably calling Bogut every chance they get.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

And if they don't get Bogut? (Which I doubt)

Are they still interested in investing in a new NBL club?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

*vomit*

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Isn't this the "supplements" club as well? Pass.

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Isaac  
Two years ago

Steve2k, in the meantime, Bogut also gets older and potentially more brittle!

But it would be great for every club in the league. Drawcard player visiting their stadium twice a season plus more press for the NBL which can't hurt TV and sponsorship at all.

But a big budget team would be a threat to a number of teams keeping their best players.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Laughable that they think that they can come in ahead of the other clubs that have done all the hard yards already.
LK has so many ideas and changes them more than his undies. Flips and flops between so many ideas.

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Luuuc  
Two years ago

Disturbing if true.
Referring to how infrequently LK allegedly changes his undies, I mean.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

"LK has so many ideas and changes them more than his undies. Flips and flops between so many ideas."

Or, like a rational person, he reassesses his ideas when new information is presented to him and adapts to the situation around him.


"Laughable that they think that they can come in ahead of the other clubs that have done all the hard yards already"

So because Tasmania has tried really really hard they should get a license ahead of a pre-existing and successful franchise from another code that already has the infrastructure necessary to run a successful team from the start?

"But a big budget team would be a threat to a number of teams keeping their best players."

Melbourne United, Perth Wildcats, Sydney Kings.


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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Close but wrong AFL TEAM

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

So tell us the correct one?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

2nd Melb team, afl teams, Tassie, China, Asia, the NBA failed experiment and more.
Hawks under the pump, Cairns selling player sponsorships, Brisbane a failure and 2 seasons on the bottom of the ladder. Clearly well managed. Said no one ever.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Perth sells player sponsorships. Not sure what your point is.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

How about a normal expansion team not pie in the sky Chinese and AFL teams.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Ex-NBL cities would work it's just a matter of the right management being in place.

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paul  
Two years ago

Would provide a real injection to the league.

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Luuuc  
Two years ago

it would be nice to supplement the 8 teams we currently have

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SteveK2  
Two years ago

Bogut also gets older and potentially more brittle!
Oh, snap! That's right! He'd be 36 in 19/20? ;p

As for the "other" AFL club, I believe it's Collingwood.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

"it would be nice to supplement the 8 teams we currently have"

So simple, yet so good.

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He's the GOAT  
Two years ago

If Essendon get a club then Victorian basketball can go and get fucked.

First United and now Essendon?

Ew and ewww.

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Curtley  
Two years ago

Would they be affiliated in colours/name etc or only through admin and staff?

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plasma  
Two years ago

As a lifelong Essendon member and ex-Giants/Magic/Dragons supporter I would be thrilled with this. I could see the scenario where my friend who has little to no interest in bball (but follows soccer as well - Melb Victory) would develop an interest because a) I would drag him to games & b) he is a sports follower and would naturally be interested in anything Essendon related. Big potential.

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Reality  
Two years ago

It won;t matter how old Bogut is if the Bombers signed him...they'd have him on all the best supplements and he'd be like Bogut at the Bucks again!

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TimberBall  
Two years ago

3 teams in a 9 team comp wearing black and red...perfect

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Chaz Michael Michaels  
Two years ago

Essendon aint the only one

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Rabbit70  
Two years ago

The AFL team is Geelong

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Chaz Michael Michaels  
Two years ago

well then there is another one to these two

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

We're a happy team!

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Tribe  
Two years ago

Essendon? Seriously?

The only Victorian AFL team i'd want to see in the NBL is the Geelong Cats. And that's coming from a Richmond supporter.

Anyone know if Geelong have a decent arena to play bball? I doubt the NBL would accept anything less that 4000 capacity.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Yep, it's a happy team that win lots of premiereships

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Anon  
Two years ago

I believe AFL backed NBL team or two or three coming through is a brilliant idea.

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skip  
Two years ago

As an Essendon member myself, I'm not sure how I feel about this.

On one hand, I feel that a team having the backing of an AFL club (Be it Essendon, Collingwood or whoever) would make it a more stable than some millionaire that could get bored in a couple of years with it.

However, at best you are surely only going to be able to target 15% of the Melbourne population? I can't see someone that follows another Melbourne AFL team choosing to follow Essendon in the NBL.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Not sure how this is a concern- Essendon is looking to have a membership base of 70 000 this season. They won't need to "target" anyone, they already have a target market who they know support the brand.

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Luuuc  
Two years ago

That was my main concern as well.

Mind you, taking the glass half full approach, it would only take a fraction of the people who attend Essendon AFL games to fill an NBL stadium, so if they can sell it as a way to support the club through all 12 months of the year then it's got potential.
Traditionally it wasn't always easy to sell basketball to footy people, but I think the American stigma is less of a thing these days.

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skip  
Two years ago

Anon - Just because you have 70,000 football members, doesn't mean that they are going to be interested in attending basketball as well.

Adelaide has 1.2 million people. Only 0.5% of those people attend a game.

Based on AFL membership numbers for Melbourne clubs, 13% of Melbourne (or just over 500,000 people) go for the Bombers (obviously not an exact science). So they are working with less that half the audience of Adelaide.





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snooch  
Two years ago

Not all of those 70,000 members live in Melbourne either, let alone support basketball.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

whoever does this will become Australia's first sports superclub

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Big Ads  
Two years ago

I imagine the Netball Super League could provide a reasonable case study into understanding the benefits/conflicts of an AFL team being involved in another national sporting competition.

Unfortunately it would be a pretty small sample at this point in time.

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Beantown  
Two years ago

I think Skip makes a good point about non-Essendon fans being put off an affiliated NBL team. I also wonder what happens when the NBL club is losing money year after year and Essendon pulls the pin to protect its footy operations? Do we have yet another defunct NBL team?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Money Makin Mitch Cleary

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

I know exactly what happens when things don't go right for an AFL club with a team in another league.

Have a look at the old NSL - both Collingwood and Carlton setup sides in it. They thought the same thing - if only we get a % of our supporters it will be enough. Well the true % of their base that were interested was pitiful.

Bad idea but LK is a businessman trying every angle to make his investment work. So I give him credit for that but in the long run this won't work. Multi-sport clubs in other countries were grown organically with no one sport being dominant and having too much priority over another.

In this scenario if money dries up NBL will be scrapped to help the AFL side in every possible way. Dangerous.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

The only reason Richmond isn't leading the discussion is because they can't use the Tigers name. They'd get solid crowds.

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Camel 31  
Two years ago

Yes , I seem to recall Richmond pretty keen .. got knocked back by nbl...

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Why not? Call them the Melbourne Richmonds.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Collingwood. Hawthorn and Essendon are chasing for an NBL licence. Hawks may be gone. 2 more Melb teams a possibilty.

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Eah  
Two years ago

Collingwood - Powerful, although they already have the netball team which they pump money into.

Richmond - Equally powerful, There is no team called the 'tigers', but United hold the naming rights which is an issue.

Hawthorn - successful club but Wollongong already named 'Hawks'

Essendon - probably not due to drug stigma (which is unfair)

Geelong - would be perfect, but the city doesn't have a bball stadium over 3000 capacity

St Kilda - small fan base
Footscray - small fan base
Carlton - good fan base but won't happen
Melbourne - lol
North Melbourne - irrelevant


If the NBL want crowds it should be between Richmond and Collingwood.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Dockers

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Agree Richmond a great fit. They are swimming in money and have a huge fan base.

Essendon, can't see that happening.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Could hawthorn split games between Wollongong and Melbourne like they do with tasie. Illawarra crowds not that flash and no money.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

I don't agree that because these teams have a large supporter base that they will automatically have success. AFLX hosted near empty stadiums and AFLW attendance dropped in half- that was with free tickets and a die hard football supporter base.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

AFLX is shit

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

AFL clubs in the NBL would also be shit.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Yeah dont tell any world class soccer clubs not to do that eh

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.  
Two years ago

just think about what is going on here and why.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Would there be many Melbourne Tigers fans who don't support United but wouldn't mind supporting Essendon and don't have a current AFL team? Or does everyone in Melbourne have an AFL team?

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koberulz  
Two years ago

Do United own the named "Tigers", or "Melbourne Tigers"?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Good loophole koberulz, I wonder if Richmond could use it?

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Chaz Michael Michaels  
Two years ago

The same people that owned the Melbourne Tigers franchise still own the Melbourne United franchise. LK doesn't own United individually

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LV  
Two years ago

Yes- LK & Slepoy- or whoever owns United, exactly- own the Tigers license which includes the ability or rights to use the Tigers name.

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D2.0  
Two years ago

Sigh, there is no such thing as "the right to use a name"
There are however various trademarks registered, and anything involving "tigers" and a basketball would likely infringe those owned by the Melbourne Tigers.

But anyway, the so-called "Richmond Bid" was only a smokescreen for Cowan trying to backdoor his way back into the NBL.

As for Essendon, well yeah, say no to drugs.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Interesting I heard yesterday that Bogut has a passion for Essendon and is keen t see them in the NBL for some reason.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Cowan trying to get a team again in the NBL?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Which stadium would the proposed Essendon team play out of? Rod Laver Arena?

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