Far out.... adding Holmen to that side. You have depth, experience, youth and good coaching. A very scary thought. I can only imagine hawks will be in high spirits with losing an import and gaining a guy like Holmen.

Purser now doesnt have guard the imports all the time and I'm sure DT will be in heaven being able to have an option like that pushing the ball to.
Parsons comes through with the goodes again with his recruiting all year long.

awesome thanks for the update there parsons

Hold up guys Etto is going to get mad!

Hawks may end up with another import depending on BCs PR status. Then all the salt will be spilt in here.

still no bite from lukosius. the goldfields giants face a massive game this week against the e-p eagles at home ! this venue is traditionally a friggin nightmare for opposing teams a fortress. time to toughen up giants.

Will the Giants win more than 5 games this year?

not without holmen

Curious to see the reception Holmen gets when he returns to face the Giants in Kalgoorlie. He did a lot for that club, and made a weak side very entertaining. The only league MVP in club history. Kalgoorlie isn't the nicest place for people of color though. Sure some people will be happy to see him again and some will be glad he is gone.

wtf is that?^

Kalgoorlie isn't the nicest place to people of colour?
1. This is 2018
2. He’s an American import in a regional town, trust me, he probably got treated better than the town Mayor
3. He didn’t leave Goldfields for another team. He was contracted to Hobart, injured his knee, waived his contract and now he’s back in the SBL.

I have no idea what you know about Jacob or Kalgoorlie, but he’s loved by that club. He’s from Texas, I’m sure he can handle his own

From the other post..

New signings at Lakeside
3 new players headed to Lakeside in May. Daniel alexander, Corey Shervill and Bryan Michales former Wildcats import son.

I know it's early but when Hawks get Holmen and Lakeside get Alexander, that will be one helluva game to be at.

Hawks need more then Holmen to be a top 4 side.

Hell of a pick up but isnt he coming of a serious knee injury?

They need to release BC and get another quality import.

How much more do Hawks need, to be a top 4 side? They have one of the deepest teams in the league, if not the deepest. Holmen's injury was 6 weeks, nothing major like first thought.
Why he is back playing? He's a professional, and wouldn't be shopping himself if he wasn't ready to go.

Why would they release BC when he's most likely going to be an unrestricted player in a few weeks. They can potentially keep him and sign another import/restricted player lol. Not sure how that’s not a win if it happens.

Yes PR is what Hawks have been banking on for 3yrs now.

Its horses for courses.

Keep waiting and if he gets PR then great you can go get another import, if not then your stuck with him as the 2nd import and not giving yourself the best chance at a championship.

Overweight to play 35mins a game sure I'll give you that. 18-25 mins a game he is fine. He’s a role player now. Not many clubs have import role players but the Hawks started the season with two of them. Their team doesn’t require them to be what other teams need their imports to be. Hawks Aussies are pretty solid

to be fair, BC is looking the best he has since joining the hawks. It's the Dolla Beal haircut that has made him look thinner too

If BC gets permanent residency, Holmen is Holmen from last year, and they sign another import Perry Lakes will win the chip. You heard it hear first.

#682444 if BC doesn't get PR he won’t be able to stay in Australia. He will have to leave Australia and they will get another import. Would be sad for BC and his family.

Hawks have finished 8-9th for the last 5 yrs or so, never going past the first round.

They need to change it up!

Lol maybe actually watch a Hawks game or two before saying they need to change it up. The roster and game plan and the whole organization has changed dramatically in the last season and a bit. Probably the most professional run club in the comp with a clear plan of action to on hopefully return them to the Top.

Never seen so much Hawks talk before this season..
Strange

We can always go back to talking about the Redbacks and Lackovich if you guys prefer? Or even better lets discuss Joondalup and Ettridge?

What about the Buccs? In the top 4, almost every season for last 5 years and possibly have the biggest supporter base and the best home crowd in the SBL

Bucc's a great club and always competitive.

Reasons being:

Matt and Ralphy are solid locals!
Always get a fringe NBL player (Lewis,Akeponya, Ross)
Always get 2 x legit imports

Just hope they can get Wunders and Ralphy a chip before they retire.

They need to recruit 1 or 2 workman like Aussies from the city, no one flashy just workmanlike!
Easier said then done!

hawks crowd numbers are average at best.

Hawks have 37 people at games.

Not just on the court either

lol there were 300+ last Thursday night for mens Hawks vs Cougars

263 Cougars then.

Low crowd numbers at BBC for SBL games is the western suburbs for ya. Grassroots for western suburbs is where it's at. Hawks junior comp is massive, as is WABL participation and popularity. WABL prestige has been Wolves, Tigers and Hawks for years now. Hawks rejects always end up at Redbacks and Senators

swing that around - there were actually very few Cougars supporters there

haha classic!

Lightning first quarter killing the suns with their pace and space style. Suns claim to play that way but clearly don't have the athletes to keep up. Poor defensive positioning in their press giving up full court layups. Not sure lightning can keep this pace either once Bragg leaves.
Mackenzie walking turnover so far.
See if suns get a run on the quarter.

Another classic Prue outing - 22 rebounds!

Hussey with a near triple-double against Cougars, all be it with an overtime period

Tiglets got their money's worth out of Bowie and Scott this arvo. Just 44 points on the board before the final quarter is laughable. Struggling without Armour this weekend, but props for getting the win.

You feel they are one piece away from being Top 3. and one piece away from missing playoffs (i.e. losing someone to injury)

Oh my god the Slammers are laughably bad

major low point for the Slammers organisation, 48 points?!?!? Voelkel cant save this mess

the alarm bells are ringing down in Bunbury that's for sure. the slammers went all the way up to south gero just to get absolutely spanked. the ladies at least grabbed a win

So "Special Delivery Jones", away you go. In your opinion, which you are happy to voice, how would you get wins out of that current Bunbury mens SBL team. What would you do?

surprising there is not a lot of people giving scott rubbery and the giants some stick.
they are in some serious pain . good to see rocko stick it to the hawks.

Power rankings coming soon?

Nothing is expected of Giants. After Holmen left 3 wins this year is a successful season for this club.

Hawks were missing an import and Lochie Cummings. Purser, DT, Smith, Cassir and Clarke all looked to have had shockers shooting wise. I don't think a change is needed when missing huge components.

In response to #683187 - Flames missing Hire and Washington. So either Hawks aren't as good as what people are saying or Flames are better than what people think!!

Big few weeks for Lightning now, surprising some teams but now they won't have Bragg. If Prue misses any games it will be a struggle until they get their top up players

Daniel Alexander finished with G League now after Austin Spurs won the championship.

Heard some news regarding a massive change to the South West line up for this week?? Figured it is probably just Voelkel in for Robinson but heard something about Reynolds leaving the country??? Can anyone confirm anything?

does anyone know why Armour was missing last weekend and although expected to beat the Giants, it maybe a bit closer if Armour isnt suiting up

People genuinely under estimate the effect solid double-double Aussies like Nic Cody/Ash Litterick etc provide. Add Cody to that team and you add 3 wins.

Tigers hurting at the 5 spot

Geez I though it must have been Sean Connery 007 on World Basketball Academy write up above!

Yeah well there is only 3 players in MSBL averaging double doubles.

Pal/Field & Davis.

So..... Did we ever work out why the live stats stopped working on phones?
ipad/desk top etc work fine but just not the phone.

Yes I know some peoples phones work but question is why some dont and do we know how to fix it?

Who wins a game first...giants or slammers

Anyone read Ben Ettridge's comments in the SBL preview? Why go at the Bucks like that? Of course they don’t have the 'juniors’ that Wolves have, but they are not breaking the rules by having Oceania players.

Looks to have been deleted.. copy and paste what it was?

It is in the article itself

In reply to #683187, so they had Cummings last night and still lost to Kalamunda who only has the one import as well, please dont tell me you still think a change isn't necessary...

Rhys Vague with 33 points in his SEABL debut

Eagles beat the very well resourced Redbacks @ Belmont tonight. Thoughts?

just a lazy 31 points and 23 rebounds for Hire this afternoon

So he should in this league.

Haha Ettridge!
What a douche, this is some of his best work yet!


As mentioned above by others take out Trian/Seb/Huntington plus who ever else he brought in from other clubs and then "developed them" see how they go.

His starting 5 at the moment doesnt have one Wolves junior. That is the only team in the league both men and women that do not have one home grown player in the starting 5.
Its crazy.
How can you put something to print like that when you dont have one local player in your starting 5!!

This guy actually believe what he says?
Surely his players must be embarrassed by this tripe.

Good luck with your 3 peat this season Etto with your "locally" produced players!

after watching both Joondalup wolves under 18 men last season and watching Geraldton u18 mens team last season.
Geraldton u-18 men would pump the wolves for fun.

where is lukisious ?? cmon giants.

haha Etto!

What is up with Stirling. I remember when that trio moved to Joondalup Stirling couldn't even offer them a cent? Lack of sponsorship or poor running of Senators?

Little birdy tells me of a culture issue up the hill, players bad mouthing each other behind each other's backs. Coach telling players to mentally toughen up, bit rich when he quits when it all gets to tough and then comes back a week later when they beat Perth. Belger is needed ASAP to take some control and leadership.

Problems at Belmont too lose to Wolves get lucky against cougars and lose to eagles

Yes unexpected lost for sure!
Vigor and Roberts to return so would not be to worried.

Hawks def need to change things up a bit, its called defence. 109 points is terrible. They still scored 101. Holmen is apparently in town this week, that will shake a few things up and pull some heads out of backsides for some of the bigs.

Ridiculous call on the buzzer gifts Rockingham the game at the Church. Completely ruined a great game of basketball and the refs should at least be given a few months off.

"Neutral supporter"

Neutral supporter here. He flopped on an attempt from beyond half court from minimal contact. The worst call I have ever seen. Just shows that some refs feel the need to be the star of the show.

Can someone help me out on why Hire shot free throws on an offensive foul? Isn't offensive foul just mean to be a throw in?

Does anyone know about lakesides new signing- Bryan Michaels? Obviously with Alexander and Shervill coming back they look to be a very competitive

"Neutral supporter"

All makes sense now

Power Rankings after the last round?

Disappointing to hear Gero leadership showed usual class and abuse some Wolves people. A fine class of small town leadership up there, nothing changes

What do you expect when their coach talks the crap that he does. Good on them!

Stirling Wolves

Carly Boag done for the year with an ACL

Yep.
Tragic stuff, would/could have been Magic's year too with another big import still to arrive.

They can replace her? Its still early.

Replace her?
2 import slots are already used, plus the money they're paying Boag and 2 imports? Unlikely
Lakesides to lose now

Yeah she wasnt restricted so not so easy!

Rumour is they've got a big from Slovakia

Willettons 2 imports are here:

Leah Cotton and Ashli Payne. Dangerous.

how is Jess Byrnes an SBL ref? damn she was awful tonight in the women's hawks vs senators game

Jess Byrnes isn't the reason you’re 1-5.

Doccy has a couple of matchsticks at her disposal. Losing Donovan and Kautsky was a big hit. No Mia Satie either. Nat wont be back until mid-May. They'll go from champs to wooden spoon for sure

PL with a solid win in the men's. Looked much better than they have in recent weeks.

Holmen was a bit rusty in his debut, but you could tell his talk and leadership made a difference. 3 air balls and a 7-16 night and the Hawks still win by 13. Once Holmen gets rolling watch out for Perry Lakes.

Gero staff being rude to joondalup staff? Turn it up. Joondalup get what they are given. Rude and obnoxious organization.

Lady Hawks 1-6 averaging more techs than wins this year!

Purser and Garlepp just lost in the 3x3 Pro Hustle final against NBL players Crawford, Petrie and Kendle. Von Hoffe was big for them; Ryan Smith got injured in the semi-final.

Think we should probably lay off Catalano. As explained, there were no suitable applicants so he put his hand up as president of the club. Who else could possibly step into that role.

If Smith really got injured then watch for the fallout. Dumb as dogsh@t. Mid season playing these stupid tournaments whilst pretending to want to win a chip in the SBL. Hawks vets are dumb as F@ck. No matter what the board and the coaches try to do the so called vets continue to not really care.

Smith goes from very very solid SBL starter to bench role behind cummings as Parsons recruits over him and he should not play in a national event???

Dumbass.

Isn't winning the SBL about putting together a team that’s deep and talented? Pretty sure that’s what happens at most successful clubs. Recruitment is vital part of that. No one should feel like their position is guaranteed. That’s how bad habits form. Kind of like what happened in the previous 3-4 yrs at PL.

How about them Giants? Great to see them get a win. The league needs the country teams to be strong. Kalamunda continuing their Jekyll and Hyde form.

Lol if Cummings can play point then Smith can do that too. Neither them are PG's. Would argue Cummings is far less likely to pass as well.

Why are SBL players playing in some mickey mouse comp.

These 3on3 comps are a dime a dozen, cant be putting that before SBL! Not good.

The 3x3 was streamed online via NBL - so that alone puts this 'mickey mouse comp' ahead of this bum SBL league that can't even put up highlights.

But seriously you lot take your SBL way too extremely. Ask half the people playing in the league and they couldn't tell you who won the SBL in 2001, 2010 or 2014. Heck they probably couldn't tell you who was in it last year. Players who play in the SBL do so cause they love playing basketball. Coaches and players take holidays during the season cause they know its not that serious.

You guys need to chill out. If a player hurt himself in a national 3x3 comp then relax - no different that him hurting himself at work seeing how is a semi-pro league and most of these guys have day jobs.

Bunbury - TRASH
Kalamunda - TRASH
Kalgoorlie - TRASH

Media Coverage - TRASH
Streaming online - TRASH

SBL - TRASH

"But seriously you lot take your SBL way too extremely."

Exactly. I think being so far away from the east coast people in WA forget that SBL isn't even second tier - you have NBL then SEABL and then the rest.

Can't be too far off SEABL if Tre Nichols is currently second leading scorer in the comp this season and Rhys Vague is averaging more than he did last year in the SBL...

^ Exhibit A of delusion.

the boys won $5000 (could have been $10k if they won) plus progress into FIBA qualifiers, so not that mickey mouse

https://s3-ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/nbl-com-au/3x3_Hustle.pdf

i would think playing v Crawford, Petrie and Kendall would be good for SBL preparation ?

NBL
SEABL
QBL/SBL
BIGV
SA League

That's how deluded SBL supporters are. Their SBL is more important than FIBA qualficiation. Funny.

make another thread,sick and tired of the same debate about which league is better than the others.
having played in 3 of the above leagues mentioned there is nothing between any of them.
its a pointless argument.

So much hate on this page and not enough positivity. You should want all the leagues to be successful. SBL does need a live stream tho. Anywho, power rankings this week?

Its a 3 on 3 comp.
Yawn!

Which is now an Olympic sport. 3x3 is a qualifying tournament to the Olympics, SBL qualifies you to diddly squat, even SBLers rarely get to the NBL now.

ROCKIINGHAM AND WILLETON GETTING 2 IMPORTS ARRIVING IN THE WSBL.
I WOULD BE PUTTING THEM IN CACULATIONS KNOW.

1. LAKESIDE- theres to lose

2. ROCKINGHAM- 2 studs. quality role players
3. PERTH- have the MVP in standish
4. WILLETON- size experience 2 imports
5. KALAMUNDA- size and alex c
6. STIRLING- throns girls coming
7.JOONDALUP- experienced
8. PERRY LAKES- will come home hard

9. MANDURAH- no size, no boag
10. COCKBURN- scrappy , inconsistent
11. S/W SLAMMERS- underachievers with that squad
12. EAST PERTH- rebuilding ,good work

MVP - Standish
MIP - denehey
COTY - mansfield

Oh sorry, you should of told me the winner of the 3 on 3 game qualifies for the Olympics, that changes things.

Oh how sarcastic of you. My turn.

Yes, because the SBL is sooooo much more important than potentially representing your country at the Olympic Games.

hahaha Potentially representing your country?

One minute SBL is useless blah blah but now the SBL players are going to present Australia at the olympics.

I cant keep up!

LOL Are you joking?

Forgetting the Wolves as the team you have chosen to talk about... what unpaid players are signing up for a flight east every second week? No thanks

"hahaha Potentially representing your country?

One minute SBL is useless blah blah but now the SBL players are going to present Australia at the olympics.

I cant keep up!"

Are you dumb? The 3x3 tourney SBL players entered during your precious season may potentially result in Olympic representation in 3x3 basketball. Something which will never happen playing SBL basketball. Accept it and move on.

If Wolves moved to SEABL obviously the players would need to be paid more to make it worth travelling east every second week.

You are talking a budget of near on $500k just for a mens SEABL team.. taking into account the SEABL salary cap is about 120k (is this right?)

Plus flights for 15 odd people every second week.

Quote - Are you dumb? The 3x3 tourney SBL players entered during your precious season may potentially result in Olympic representation in 3x3 basketball. Something which will never happen playing SBL basketball. Accept it and move on -


"Potentially"

Yeah "Potentially" Elvis could fly a UFO into the Loch Ness Monster.
"Potentially"
Our Grandads could win the 100m spint at the olympics
"potentially"

Everything has potential.


So yeah "potentially" they could represent Australia at the Olmympics for sure...

But realistically not chance in hell/

haha Dumby!

Well der, thanks for pointing out the obvious. What you missed is there's more potential than playing SBL where you have zero chance of going from there to the Olympics. You're slow.

Potentially slow it seems.

Impressive live stream from Willetton with Tigers vs Suns. Impressive production value with action replays etc

When is Earnest Ross arriving? The Buccs will be real tough with him on board

whens vigor arriving for the redbacks ? they will be real tough when he comes on board

Well der, thanks for pointing out the obvious. What you missed is there's more potential than playing SBL where you have zero chance of going from there to the Olympics. You're slow.

Ohh yeah no chance of playing SBL and going to the Olympic games.

Off the top of my head.

Vlahov
Longley
D.Martin
Worthington
P. Crawford
P.Rogers
M. Cattalini
T. Ronaldson

None of them DIRECTLY went to the Olympics due to the SBL. They were NBL players playing SBL on the side/when young. Way to miscontrue the argument.

haha blah blah your wrong mate.
SBL and Olympic players.

Simple. End.

SBL players who competed in 3x3 qualification = have a chance at the Olympics.

SBL players who just play SBL = NO CHANCE at making the Olympics.

Simples.

Tell that to Cattalini, Vlahov & Longley all played SBL first.

Give it up champ.

Lol let's not put Josh Garlepp anywhere near a list about potential olympians. He is barely hanging onto a SBL career.

Give up trying to say the modern SBL will produce Olympians in basketball. The only way SBLers will get a look into is through 3x3 qualification. Move on.

What's happening with Cockburns import, injured or gone already?

I've referreed in every state competition and as far as I've seen it goes.

SEABL
QBL
BIG V
WARATAH LEAGUE//SBL (EQUAL)

It's just how it is.

3X3 IS AN OLYMPIC SPORT!

IF SOME PLAYERS WANT TO TRY POLAY THERE WE SHOULD SUPPORT THEM NOT CUT THEM DOWN!

SHAME ON ALL YOU NEGATIVE BLOG BOIZ OUT THERE!

SEABL the best.
QBL, SBL, Big V could be successfully argued in any order but that would be my ranking.
Warratah League clearly the weakest.

Lol let's not put Josh Garlepp anywhere near a list about potential olympians. He is barely hanging onto a SBL career.

Cockburns import is injured, took a knock to the head last week.

BIG V Champ Div is below SBL/QBL

Only Waratah is below SBL and that isn't a complement.

Is Cockburn's import returning this weekend to help destroy the Slammers?

Holmen will tear the Giants a new one

I don't think that’s a real smart move from Kal. Holmen will go for 40 now and the Hawks will win by 30+.

what was said?

GIANTS AT HOME THIS SATURDAY NIGHT

Don't miss the return of Jacob Holmen to Kalgoorlie, talking a big game after his surprise mid-season return to the SBL.

Our boys are ready to show Jacob and his new team just what our home ground advantage can do, so we need all of our loyal fans to come down to support the Giants. Loyalty is a big thing in the Goldfields, especially at our club!

We will leave the final words to our Chairman Jamie Crombie:
"I look forward to us offering Jacob the same advice that we like to give any opposition player that doesn't want to be part of what we are going at the Giants. We'll remind him of what it's like to play in front of the best fans in the league"

garbage bench killed the Giants tonight. All the starters did well. Holmen was forcing everything in his return game. Cummings is the real deal. Purser with a near triple-double, should have had 8 or 9 assists but gimmies were missed

27 rebounds (!!) for Brian Voelkel vs Cockburn. Added 11 assists and six points

Near triple-double for Hire as well vs his old mob, 7/10/10. Josh Ritchart is a beast

Suns smashing Senators by 35 points. Sum serious issues for the Senators and some good signs for the Suns.

what a great win by the Mandurah magic men . they are a team that will be up and down a little bit all season but have been in most games .
credit to the coach aaron trahair for bringing this squad together after a lot of changes from the year before. I don't think people are giving credit to trahair.
they will continue to surprise throughout the season, they are all fit as well know after a few recent injuries.
will worry east perth and the giants in the next 2 games .

Great win by Magic one of the biggest upsets in recent memory.

What is happening with Stirling??
Ex NBL head coach
2 x NBL players (maybe both to be Ex nbl players)
2 x Stud imports. Couple POTW awards.
One of if not the best young big in the league in Literick.

Solid bench with hard workers and some good old vets.

How can they lose by 35pts to Kevin Davis and the suns?

They only just got over a Import less Cougars the week before.

They should be challenging for a championship with this team.

Was at the Willetton game on Saturday night and was thoroughly impressed with Jake Burston's cameo in their big win. P.S Damien Scott is very good!

Daniel Alexander has arrived for Lakeside