We are screwed then.

Out Chill creek shorter
In wiley deleon.
No playoffs this year. Cant see anotger championship on the horizon

A 34 year old point guard that IMO was not that great 5 year ago.

I'm happy but if I was an Adelaide supporter I would not be.

What a budget ass team, gonna be a long season ahead

At least this forum will be entertaining with all the heat on 6ers come the season starting

And I deleted the Sosa thread because it's the same troll who posted Trice before that and well after anyone with a clue knew it was Deleon.

Well that sucks.

April Fools?

"A 34 year old point guard that IMO was not that great 5 year ago."

With the backcourt he already has, it was likely Joey would go for a solid performer, rather than a superstar.

I wouldn't wright him off just yet, he's pretty good at assembling a competitive team.

As for "budget", well yeah, he undoubtedly has less money to spend than the big 3, so he's gone for some outside the box solutions.

I think it's easy to underestimate the Moore retention too because he's a returning player. His role seems to be off the bench everywhere he goes but he can easily start and average 15-20ppg.

Like has been mentioned, improvement & reshuffling is the key here.

This is basically Ebi Ere part 2. Like Teys, one of "Joeys guys" who will pop up and into our teams regardless of if they're shit or not. I struggle to see how this team will win many games or be particularly entertaining to watch.

2 hard 2 guard is fun to watch and with him wearing a 36ers jersey, he will be all the more fun.

He's older now so I wonder if he knows what the other 4 players on the court in jerseys like his are there for yet?

Will he pass the ball at all this season?

First import sent home ?

As I said in another thread, I wasn't really a fan of DeLeon at the Hawks. He can play but reminds me of how the Warriors got better when they moved on from Monta Ellis. Ellis averaged 20+ PPG with the Warriors but they had a losing record most years he was there. They went 23-43 in his last season, then 47-35 the year after he'd left.

However, being charitable, I'm assuming that money is now tight, which restricts the options, and that maybe Wright just wants a reliable option he feels he can trust, someone he's worked with before. I'm guessing the case goes: We don't need much from him, we have guys who can move the ball, we have shooters, we just need someone to run and give Sobey and Moore a seat. Maybe he goes 1/6 FG, maybe he has 25 in 20 minutes. He's not going to cause trouble.

We'll see.

Here's video of DeLeon going for 54 points in the Dominican Republic league. Lots of threes, so hard to tell where the rest of his game is at. Looks like he hit a clutch shot earlier this year to win their championship.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZ1ptH-EMz4

This is the best they could come up with? Surely a younger fresh out of college smaller school guard would of been available at a similar price. They wont even make the top 4 with that team.

Not playoff bound imo .

36ers aren't making the playoffs this year. And I know there's more to the game than names on paper, but Sydney, Melbourne, Perth, New Zealand and illawarra are significantly more talented than we are. Now don't the Teys and Doyle retention seem even dumber in light of this? We now have two terrible rotation players, here to slap butts in change rooms apparently, and a 34 year old ball hog has been who will struggle to do much against the Casper Wares and the Bryce Cottons of the league. The only hope we have is if one of the new kids comes in and beasts beyond expectation. Adelaide will finish between 5th and 7th this year.

What was the point of the NBA Summer league trip if we simply sign Deleon?

Could have saved a bucket of money and poured it into the playing roster instead of on another junket to the US

So Joey goes on holidays, at his own cost, that incorporates going to summer League where he signed Jacob Wiley and that isnt ok ? Cool.

I'm sure most people on this forum were saying the same thing about the Sixers 12 months ago and look how they ended up.

If things don't work out they will pull the trigger like they did last year and source another import.

I love your positivity Isaac, but 54 points in the Dominican Republic league doesn't exactly fill me with excitement and this has to be the least excited I have been for a season in I don't know how long?!

Will DeLeon start at PG? Maybe Sobey switches to PG when he's on the Bench?

*DeLeon / Doyle
Sobey / *Moore / Teys
Drmic / McVeigh
*Wiley / Deng
Johnson / Froling

i think Joey will be interested in the Tasmanian coaching job. very well resourced = Brisbane in his championship year. They want an experienced coach, to me thats him or BoyG , unless ..... Aaron Fearne with significant roster money could be very interesting.

Aw , missed it on ch9...
ch2 were at training , seems it was the first , they interviewed wiley and joey..
no mention of deleon...
ch9 the only one reporting deleon...

From Boti's latest newsletter:

Wright:
"We're looking for a kind of floor general, a guy that can run the team, a veteran player, so a guy that we can count on," Wright said.

“We’re still looking. We have a good feel for a few guys, but yeah, we’re still looking.”

Sounds like he's not going for an absolute gun, but someone who's been around a while and knows how to lead a team. Whether that's DeLeon, we'll see.

As normal this time of the year, it is Sixer special "Fans" sooking. They are putting their head in the sand forgetting about the following:

1. How talented Drmic and Deng are and how they will step up this season with more minutes and more consistent minutes.

2. The team probably has the best culture in the league which is huge.

3. We have maintained a solid core group.

4. We have a coach that continues to have successful seasons by getting the best out of the players.

5. How much depth the team has.

Some of the logic I see from these "fans" is Deleon is old at 34 and then imply we should have got Childress (35 and injury prone).

"A 34 year old point guard that IMO was not that great 5 year ago."

He was top 10 in MVP voting. Sixth Man of the year. 16.4 PPG @ 41% FG, 33% 3pt, 77% FT, 3RPG, 3APG. Yeah pretty average 5 years ago.

ME's normal dribble coming from his social basketball expertise.

"how this team will win many games or be particularly entertaining to watch"

Still will win games and will still be entertaining. Not like it is a loss if you don't attend games as you only attend a handful during the regular season and then jump on the bandwagon when they make the finals.

"I know there's more to the game than names on paper, but Sydney, Melbourne, Perth, New Zealand and illawarra are significantly more talented than we are."

Actually no you don't know there is more to the game than names on the paper. Can you be anymore dramatical? Significantly more talented? Other than Sydney how are those other teams SIGNIFICANTLY more talented?

"Teys and Doyle"

United had Adnam and Hooley. United seem to do alright. Perhaps one day you will learn teams need role players to balance out the team and that they bring other intangibles to a team.


DeLeon will most likely come off the bench in a Jason Terry scoring role. Sobey and Moore are more than capable of running the offense. Froling is an upgrade on Hodgson because he isn't a liability on the pick and rolls. This team has the quality, depth, balance and culture to make the playoffs. Whether they do or not we will soon see but it is an extremely competitive league so anything can happen.

The initial announcement was un-inspirational, but I thought I'd sleep on it and maybe it would not feel so bad in the morning.

Sorry I don't feel any better.

I tried to be positive about this signing, I cannot.

I am now settling for being open minded to this signing.

Adris Deleon was a good player at Gold Coast, he was a decent player for the Hawks. But I just don't see him being that good anymore.

Before I am labelled a hater, let's consider what the Sixers need. We just lost our best player, and whilst I expect Drmic and Deng to absorb Creek's minutes and improve their output, there needs to be another capable guy down the stretch.

Last season Shorter was solid, Childress and Moore were very good. This year I see having Deleon as a significant downgrade to that even if Wiley is good.

We came within 1 game or 1 injury away from a Championship, so we were thereabouts but now most teams seem to have imrpoved and I can't see this as anythin gbut regressing.

I have never been a subscriber to the Jobs for Joey's Mates view, I even supported Ebi, I guess I will just have to trust Joey Wright.

1. How talented Drmic and Deng are and how they will step up this season with more minutes and more consistent minutes.

2. The team probably has the best culture in the league which is huge.

3. We have maintained a solid core group.

4. We have a coach that continues to have successful seasons by getting the best out of the players.

5. How much depth the team has.

Some of the logic I see from these "fans" is Deleon is old at 34 and then imply we should have got Childress (35 and injury prone).

A 34 year old point guard that IMO was not that great 5 year ago."

He was top 10 in MVP voting. Sixth Man of the year. 16.4 PPG @ 41% FG, 33% 3pt, 77% FT, 3RPG, 3APG. Yeah pretty average 5 years ago.

ME's normal dribble coming from his social basketball expertise.

He was top 10 in MVP voting. Sixth Man of the year. 16.4 PPG @ 41% FG, 33% 3pt, 77% FT, 3RPG, 3APG. Yeah pretty average 5 years ago.

Just thought I would share this.....thanks Luuuc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5oP7B1PDwU

I've mentioned this in another thread, but am i right in saying that the club has had to limit their spending during the off season as opposed to what they may have had at the beggiining? If so, why? I only base that on the idea that names like Childress & Motum were being thrown around & that's even before Creek left (for sure).

I don't think Wiley would be overly cheap? Obviously a case of spending up more for that need and then getting someone established to compliment the group and Sobey is given the opportunity I'd love to see him have. So i do get the thinking behind it.

I think the real question is not if DeLeon is talented or not. He was very talented. Lots of guys are but there's something missing from player types such as DeLeon that separate him from say a Cedric Jackson. The argument should be if he truly is a right fit and if he's necessary compared to other guys you can go budget with. Personally, I don't like the signing at all. But it's true, just needs to accepted and given a chance to play out.

If Smith (forget name) from Cairns was still hanging around, i think he's a guy who could take off in that role.

I think the only way I can talk myself into Deleon is if he's used as a scorer off the bench. That means there is an awful lot of pressure on Sobey to step up this season. If Drmic and Deng also improve a lot then the Sixers could still be quite good. But chances are, they'll take a step back this season after falling one game and one freak Childress injury short of the title.

Like many Sixers fans, I'm pretty disappointed if this really is our last signing. I feel like the team we have is actually quite good, it just needed that one final, quality piece to put us in contention. Instead, if Channel 9 is correct, we've signed a guy who wasn't that good in his prime, shoots the 3 ball as badly as Shorter did and is too small for us to switch everything defensively as Joey's Sixers teams always do.

Regarding budget. DJ was hot property in the off season...I am sure he got a pay rise. Drimic is probably on more too.

No doubt they got raises after all the money freed up from Creek who would've been on pretty good money and Childress who would've been on exceptional money. No doubt Shorter would've been on more than Deleon would likely be getting too.

The real disappointing thing with this signing is even if Deleon has signed for the minimum wage you can find kids straight out of college from smaller schools desperate to land an import gig and get experience for that money or thereabouts.

It's a very lazy signing and unlike the Ebi Ere situation it will only be acceptable if Deleon has effectively been signed as a placeholder import until a better point guard shakes free from NBA training camps and Deleon is cut before his contract becomes fully guaranteed for the rest of the season.

I suspect Deleon might've gotten some sort of verbal guarantee that that is unlikely to happen though.

What has Boti got in for Shannon Shorter? Labels him 'overrated' in a recent article and was really harsh in another. I just don't see why it's necessary to give him such a kicking on the way out and it seems selective. I liked Shorter. Sometimes you wouldn't even notice he was playing and then he has near triple double stats which surprises you. He was solid to say the least.

I thought the same a few years ago when Boti would always make mention of how Gary Ervin was a good player mostly but went missing in the grand final (paraphrase). He'd say this over and over again. But so did the whole time. Why is it necessary? Seems very selective to me, so why.

Shorter got numbers but he was a pretty average player. No shame in that most are but his carry on with the flexing and all that crap was tiresome from a player who was no star.

To be fair to Shorter he was really a SG without a reliable jumpshot and we brought him in to be the PG and run the show which he clearly wasn't suited for with his average decision making and poor ball handling.

Remember too Boti understandably always wants the 36ers to do well and to be seen to be doing well so talking Shorter down helps sell the current team/decision making.

Absolutely Andrew, I was just gonna say that as DJ has also probably signed his last big money contract so to suggest the roster is worse with players potentially signing on bigger money and others being unknown is very hard to judge but I do agree that 36ers seem to be missing a stud or even a pass first point guard and Adris is neither

Melbourne and Sydney have money to throw at big names and stack their rosters. Unfortunately the 36ers don't. I'm glad the team was able to survive a few years back but the league is very top heavy these days and there is obviously a big divide when it comes to money spent. Joey has done a great job to get to two grand finals after taking over and the style they play is exciting to watch. Hopefully they can do well with this team too.

Deleon isn't a great signing.

Agree that a pinch scorer, playing 15 minutes off the bench could be a role where he's used effectively.

You never know what will happen. Remember last year, that mediocre import with the long hair, hurt his arm and the 36ers ended up with Childress. You all thought the 36ers had no cash, but that didn't stop them signing a stud.

Deng still has serious potential- if he really steps up his game, the 36ers will be very dangerous despite not having a backcourt that's as highly rated as most.

Lets go sixers

Good luck to JW and the boys for the upcoming season. Lets go one better this year. Were with you all the way.

Although i hope Creek injunction thing all sorted and no problems