Red
Two weeks ago

36ers file injunction to stop Creek’s NBA clearance

Ben Fitzsimmons, a former 36ers team owner just tweeted this:

It's time for an @NBL team owner to be called out publically for their behaviour. I hope all players are taking note of how one of their own is being treated and take action. I’ll leave this to the media pros to respond accordingly.



I wonder what he's talking about?

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Something that has the potential to significantly impact the club. Someone thinking of doing something incredibly stupid and short-sighted. Hasn't happened yet, but if it does, look out.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Title is a bit misleading, doesn't mention 6ers directly, could be any team

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Joshuapending  
Two weeks ago

Name change?

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Agent Oso  
Two weeks ago

Surely knowing how close Ben F seems to be to Mitch Creek it has to be something to do with his potential move to Brooklyn.

Could the 6ers be threatening to block his pathway there until they are paid a significant amount of $ top compensate for losing him?

Will Boti (or anyone else in the media) have the balls to come out and honestly report on what is happening at risk of getting the cold shoulder from the 6ers in the future?

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Red  
Two weeks ago

Anonymous, it is the 36ers.

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ME  
Two weeks ago

Sounds likely Oso. The sixers are owed nothing. He has an nba outclause. They need to fuck off or maybe change ownership if this is the case.

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Isaac  
Two weeks ago

I suspect the NBA outclause required transfer payment at some point in the past, but not sure he was under contract at this point.

TBH, I'd forgo any transfer insistence if there was a risk of it impacting future recruitment of others.

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Isaac  
Two weeks ago

Will Boti (or anyone else in the media) have the balls to come out and honestly report on what is happening at risk of getting the cold shoulder from the 6ers in the future?
BTW, why name Boti who's semi-retired and blogging off his own back, and not The Advertiser's sports writers first? Surely this is their remit foremost?

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Very Old  
Two weeks ago

because no-one in Australian basketball expects anything relevant/useful/interesting from the Advertiser's sports writers ? and Boti still usually has some hidden kernel that is relevant/useful/interesting ?

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Most decent Australian nbl players have out clauses, and most have a fee attached to it. It's normally a drop in the ocean for nba clubs, between 100g to approx 400g.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Maybe the Sixers are in the right and the NBA thought they can get another freebie from the suckers from Adelaide?

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Cram  
Two weeks ago

I still don't quite get it. Didn't he decline his player option to sign with a team in Europe, then use his NBA out clause in that deal to go to Brooklyn?

Was there something in his contract that said opting out of his deal for Europe was free, but opting out to go to the NBA had a price tag?

Doesn't sound right.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

I'm pretty confused by the whole situation, i thought he was no longer contracted to the 36ers (i think didn't exercise his player option?), plus he was signed over in Europe anyway, not to the 36ers.

Unless theres something I'm missing it feels like Adelaide are just going for a cash grab, pretty poor form if that's the case. A stupid thing to do too as it could have an impact on future recruiting and relationships.

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Isaac  
Two weeks ago

Very Old, yes, I imagine that's right, but assuming that, I'd give the semi-retired and unpaid blogger a bit of grace. If there's a story, The Advertiser should be on it as paid and resourced writers.

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Agent Oso  
Two weeks ago

Fair Call Isaac on naming Boti, I guess that's simply because he is the only name I know (I wouldn't have a clue who write for he Advertiser anymore) and he seemed to mention on Twitter a while back in response to another Ben Fitz tweet 'watch this space' so I assumed it was about the same topic.

Would be a tricky situation though, come out and drop a big story that makes the sixers looks bad but still want to have access to them for the future.

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Zodiac  
Two weeks ago

The 36ers have always been run like a tinpot operation. Fucking up the spelling of Brad Newley's name on the contract offer that saw him then sign with Townsville instead, refusing to give Joe Ingles a spot on the full roster only offering a DP spot seeing him then sigh with the South Dragons instead and score 20 in his first game, supposedly releasing Ferguson early last offseason so OKC didn't have to pay the transfer fee costing the club $400k and now screwing up with Creek's contract costing them $100k.

Earlier allegedly coming to terms with Creek on a new deal and then when he got the contract the deal was for less than they had previously agreed to and now holding up his NBA contract which if it hasn't already will ensure he likely never plays for us again, damages our standing with players and coaches in the NBL and will also tarnish our club internationally with future imports.

You couldn't make this shit up.

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Isaac  
Two weeks ago

Ingles was also spoken of as a centre by the admin at the time. Thought it was his name misspelled rather than Newley's - but it's been ages and might be wrong. I think there was something about Newley being somewhat ignored while the Crocs coach (Stacker?) visited him in hospital during an injury recovery. I don't think admin helped, but I think the Newley effort and then lack of confidence in Ingles came from the then-coaches.

They've been a bit bush league forever, but who knows how they've conjured up bungling Creek's re-signing (should've been a huge priority) and then whatever is going on now. Doubt any of it has endeared them to the coach.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

What gets me is they change ownership groups yet still it's always run amateurishly.

Ingles was the misspelt name. In his first game he scored 29 points to break the rookie on debut NBL scoring record.

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Zodiac  
Two weeks ago

Apologies I misremembered and thought that was Newley and like Issac said I remember there was other stuff like the Crocs going all out to lure him and the Sixers just expecting the local boy would sign with his local team.

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LoveBroker  
Two weeks ago

I'm going to wait until there is more come to light, but in recent memory the Sixers have not done anything toxic.

I would hope the Sixers don't do anything to jeopardise anyone's NBA dreams let alone those of their favourite son.

But as mentioned above, we don't even know 100% that this is about the Sixers.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Definitely Ingles.

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Bizzy  
Two weeks ago

I would say BenFitz is referring to the Sixer's requesting an injunction for his release to Brooklyn unless adequate compensation is provided.

Poor form and suffice to say we will never see Mitch back in Sixer's blue.

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Jack Toft  
Two weeks ago

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/basketball/adelaide-36ers-file-injunction-to-stop-mitch-creeks-nba-clearance-without-compensation/news-story/9fa392a557143135fd0a80eb8889ffd9

You would expect most clubs to be happy if a player went to the next level, just like an SANFL player moving to the AFL.....

Seems like all contracts have a standard "NBA out" in them and I unaware of any player transfer fee like they have in soccer.

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Camel 31  
Two weeks ago

Turned out to be c.nts...

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Isaac  
Two weeks ago

Of course it's about the 36ers...

Everyone wave goodbye to future recruiting chances. To Creek ever playing for Adelaide again, etc. Insane decision to make IMO.

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LoveBroker  
Two weeks ago

This is very very disappointing, I was just saying that the Sixers don't do toxic things.

WTF, why? Just how much are we talking about?

If Brooklyn balks at this and shows Mitch the door, and he's already told his German club no thanks, he WON'T come back to the Sixers.

This to me is even more disappointing than losing the GF.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

36ers really just dont get it

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Free agency poison.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Adelaide are entitled to there fee if it's in the contract, they developed him, it’s business that’s how it works. Obviously creek was still contracted to Adelaide and isn’t a free agent.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Anon, if I accuse you of something, and it goes to court, you'd have to defend yourself regardless of innocence etc. think of this like that. Creek has his position, Sixers theirs, and the truth will come out eventually.

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Beantown  
Two weeks ago

Ok, everyone is very quick to blame the Sixers here. I'll play devils advocate. How do we KNOW that they didn't have a clause in Creek's contract that entitles them to a transfer fee? Surely the owners wouldn't pursue this unless they genuinely believe they have a case?

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Beantown, don't play devils advocate. I’m sure the actual story will come out.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

I'm waiting for the blame Larry/Melbourne statement from Joey...it’s always their fault!

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maxymoo  
Two weeks ago

Even if they are due a fee ......eventually Creek will be coming back and I don't know perhaps not massively pissing off a favourite son is the better path.

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NBL Fan  
Two weeks ago

36ers have build a nice roster of youngsters the past few years but any future players with NBA aspirations will be staying away you'd think.

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WookieE  
Two weeks ago

So I'm guessing that the article was light on actual specifics?

Simple things like the 36ers explaining why they think they're entitled to this fee when as far as the basketball public knows, Creek didn't exercise his player option, signed overseas and then utilised his NBA out clause in that contract to pursue his NBA dream, should really clear it up?

Surely it's in their best interest, as good luck getting any decent local players to sign there now with how this looks...

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

If they have a legitimate case then fair enough i guess, they should get what they're entitled to and not be pushed around.

But to me at this stage it just seems like a desperate geedy cash grab. I guess we'll find out. If it is just a greedy cash grab they're a bunch of muppets.

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LoveBroker  
Two weeks ago

Can the Sixers even raise an injunction if there is no contract to back it up?

There seems to be some conjecture on whether Creek opted out or opted in.

I've read one article which suggested he opted in, but most of the talk here says opted out.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Can anyone help post the article. I'm confused. Either the Sixers have a claim to compensation, or they don't?

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PlaymakerMo  
Two weeks ago

"eventually Creek will be coming back"

How does everyone know this?

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maxymoo  
Two weeks ago

@Playmaker - we don't, it is a guess but more likely than less IMHO.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

This is much Ado about nothing. Typical social media sensationalism and outrage. The article says creek is training with his Sixers teammates and still loves them and the coaches. So much for the organisation blowing why chance of recruiting him or other stars again

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

someone wanna find a link i dont need to pay for?

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Big Ads  
Two weeks ago

I expect the 36ers took legal counsel before pursuing this matter. Hopefully the advice was better than "It's the vibe of it.....".


Hopefully the matter achieves conciliation without detrimental impact on any party, particularly Mitch and the 36ers.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Muppet club that's run by muppets, always has been always will be, the sooner a second team comes into Adelaide the better, give us some options on who to follow

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Hogwash  
Two weeks ago

Can see Creek returning to NBL eventually but unlikely with Adelaide.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Maybe they should ask for an injury exemption. Oh wait...sorry

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

The day of the first NBL Stars signing is the day Adelaide send a strong message to the NBA that they might make things difficult for young players when they are ready to return.

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ferdterguson  
Two weeks ago

1) Is Mitch Creek a contracted player for the 36ers? Was/is he on the roster to play next season?

2) If he is a contracted player for the 36ers, was there a stated buyout amount in the contract? Is this based on the length of his contract (eg if he was signed for the 36ers for the next 2/3 years the buyout would be higher)?

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

If he signed a contract with these clauses then he has to honor it. All NBL clubs are supporting development players, admin teams etc. Its a business and they need to look after the well being of the organisation.

Im not an Adelaide fan at all, but I support them ensuring all contractual obligations are met so they can give the best they can to their current team and staff.

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Very Old  
Two weeks ago

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/basketball/adelaide-36ers-file-injunction-to-stop-mitch-creeks-nba-clearance-without-compensation/news-story/9fa392a557143135fd0a80eb8889ffd9


this was open to me without a sub

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Very Old  
Two weeks ago

but does not work when I post it

perhaps start from here ?
https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/

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Very Old  
Two weeks ago

that worked ;)

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koberulz  
Two weeks ago

Doesn't work for me.


If he signed a contract with these clauses then he has to honor it.
That's a pretty big "if".

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Todd  
Two weeks ago

Poor form and short sighted by the 6ers.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Knowing the Sixers they probably made all sorts of error on the injunction application and wound up applying for a credit card.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

I doubt that would be the case. Clearly they believe they have a case and are setting out to prove it. New owners doing this?

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Isaac  
Two weeks ago

Even if they had a case, they're destroying a relationship with a player and sending a negative message to players league-wide.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Seems perfectly fair and reasonable when you consider the Ingles and Newley past. Also Bradtke but that had more to do with between the sheets antics.
Could there be a bigger public relations cock up as well as player relations going forward. Can see the recruiting spiel now, come to Adelaide young fella, just don't try and make it to NBA where you might just be a fringe player, or we'll take you to court to stop you.
I really wonder what the Nets are thinking about this, bit like a mosquito biting an elephant in the ass.

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joshuapending  
Two weeks ago

Is 100k really worth more than their reputation and good will of the fans? They will drop more than that when us members leave and they can't get players to joIn the team. This is an all time bone headed move. You don't think the nets are just like let's move on a player we can get with no issues. This is his big chance and some suit in Adelaide is flushing any chance he has down the toilet.

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ME  
Two weeks ago

When $100,000 might be about a third of how much they're looking to give him in the first place, they might pass on Mitch and go for a player who doesn't have a slightly insane team owner trying to pinch pennies from them. The ramifications of playing these games with NBA teams could echo on for years. I even suggest boycotting the Sixers if they continue.

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LoveBroker  
Two weeks ago

My god this is just sad.

https://www.netsdaily.com/2018/8/8/17663560/australian-team-wants-compensation-from-nets-before-letting-mitch-creek-go

Firstly, you are putting Mitch's NBA dream at risk for $100,000??? Come on Sixers don't do this.

Creek had one year of a three-year deal left to run with the 36ers in the 2018-19 season but triggered his European/NBA out clause to join a top-level German club, Wurzberg. Wurzberg gave Creek its clearance but Adelaide claims it must get its approval as well.


I am no expert but do the Sixers event have a leg to stand on? Creek triggered out clause from Sixers. Sixers granted without asking Wurberg for money. Wurzberg granted release to NBA, now Sixers mysteriously have rights again???

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

It's as if they want to clawback some of the money they pissed away when T-Ferg was drafted. What morons.

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proud  
Two weeks ago

Poor Mitch Creek, would retiring his number 55 be enough to get him back there?

I mean seriously Mitch would literally run through a wall if it meant he could get a greater chance to make the NBA... real fucking sad when that wall is a team you've loved for years

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Adelaide has cleared him. NOthing to do with them now. Stupidity at it's best.

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Reality  
Two weeks ago

I love how every punter says its only $100K and your standing in the way of Creek's dream!

Its easy to say when its not your $100K

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Chairman Of The Bored  
Two weeks ago

There's something about this that doesn't really add up for me. Maybe i'm being naive. There have been articles in the past in which the 36ers said they'd seek compensation but ultimately not block Mitch from going to the NBA. The fact that Mitch is at the club this week working out indicates to me that he has some level of comfort with what is happening. It'd be good to hear from him personally to be honest.
Whatever happens, it's yet again a whole bunch of terrible publicity for the club. We seem to do this annually...

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Isaac  
Two weeks ago

Chairman, if Mitch has an ongoing relationship, I suspect it would be with teammates and coach. I could see this incident as being part of something that drives a wedge between the club and everyone on-court. Can't see how many players would be supportive of it or that Joey would be enthused by them bungling re-signing his top player and then making future recruitment more difficult.

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Aussiebballer  
Two weeks ago

I wonder if his deal had a clause allowing him to play in Europe in the NBL offseason and then come back to the Sixers.
But if he left to the NBA there was a buyout clause, which probably assumed he would have been signing a guaranteed NBA deal. Which would have given him $1mil roughly.
But as he has only signed a training amp deal that guarantees about $30k the $100k buyout looks pretty rough.
Obviously just guessing at the details, but that would make some kind of sense.

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Reality  
Two weeks ago

Many contracts have a claw back provision in a contract whereby a player has permission to play or be released for a certain opportunity but should that cease or be declined, automatically the player comes back under the contract of the club they had previously come from under a form of team option/first right of refusal condition. This is usually given to protect Player if they get cut in EU mid season but also the club so they release an asset but he doesn't wind up playing against you in 3 months if they get cut.

Everyone who is whinging about this should really look at what happens in the EU leagues where this is common place particularly for local talent which is extremely hard to replace.

Basketball and the NBA is a business as to is NBL ownership! LK and Co turned it from a bush league hobby sport to an investment and as such we should expect the owners to treat it as such.





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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

CJ used that out clause a long time ago. ;)

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

CJ went overseas twice but remained within the NBL. Impressive.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

CJ added a foreign accent to his speech to make us believe he had actually been in Europe exercising his out clause but unfortunately the guise didn't work because the foreign accent he chose was American

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Reality  
Two weeks ago

Thats right CJ magically got an america accent whilst living in Aust/NZ its funny he didn't have it before his two years in community college or when he first got back to Australia.

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Isaac  
Two weeks ago

People whining about accents is a monstrous pet peeve of mine. It's personal. It's irrelevant. And to use it as a sleight shows no understanding of someone who's grown up amidst two cultures. Give it up. It's pathetic.

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Beantown  
Two weeks ago

Aussiebballer and Reality, I've been wondering something similar to both of you. There must be some grey areas relating to Creek's contract or none of this would be happening. We could just as easily point the finger at Brooklyn and ask why they are such cheap skates that they won't pay the Sixers $100k for a player they developed over about 8 years! They have a $118 million roster for christ sakes. WTF is $100k to them?!?!

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Isaac  
Two weeks ago

I think the 36ers have filed this injunction against BA as well. I'd guess BA are not very excited about it.

Beantown, if they have not committed more than $x0k to Creek at this point, you think they're going to be keen to put up more (I heard $350k, not $100k) rather than just go with someone else they were considering?

Meanwhile:



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koberulz  
Two weeks ago

They have a $118 million roster for christ sakes. WTF is $100k to them?!?!
About three times what they're paying Creek, reportedly.

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Zodiac  
Two weeks ago

Only about $30k of his contract is guaranteed. The $100k payment would only be made if he makes the Nets roster when his contract would become fully guaranteed to the tune of around $700k for the season.

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Anon  
Two weeks ago

This is an embarassment. Get me in the room with the GM, i swear to god. Mitch worked his ass off for this club, at a measly salary for most of his playing time. F^&k right off Adelaide, this is disgusting.

You're right, he is very close with Joey and the boys but don't you think for a second the coaching staff are ok with this BS either, they have no say in teh business crap and that is what this is CRAP.

people thinking 100K is a drop in the ocean have no real idea what a G league or training contract is worth in the NBA, not much at all.

He will be on minimum wage and he is going over there to forge his way, not make coin right now. SORT it out sixers, i will not renew my membership until you do.

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Big Ads  
Two weeks ago

Storm in a teacup. Sixers have agreed to terms with the Nets. Mitch is cleared to play.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Big Ads, hope you're correct with your mail. But to play it all nonchalant like it was not big deal is being pretty silly really. Until it is/was sorted it was a major issue. And the 36ers as usual handled it horribly.

Good luck to Mitch!!

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Joshuapending  
Two weeks ago

What a brave statement from the club as well. Don't know what I really wanted them to say but they have dragged their name through mud, the cheque better be huge.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

It's not brain surgery guys...

Creek had a year to play under a player option. He tried to ask for more money, and the new owner said no. So Creek exercised his option. He is thereby contracted to the Sixers, so you can stop speculating.

After the Sixers went through FA without replacing him, Creek told them he wasn't coming back. You can speculate as to how politely he phrased that message, sufficient to say that they are now not on the best of terms.

Just like so many players Creek has an NBA out clause however the debate is as to whether it covers the current offer. The Sixers believe that the out clause will only be in effect if he receives a full-time NBA contract, that is not a D-League contract. But of course he can't get to any potential full-time contract without going through the current process for which he needs a clearance.

Bottom line is that Creek has brought this on himself by behaving like a Prick. Never should have exercised his option when he clearly never intended to return. He's left the team with an unfillable hole, and all just because he behaved like a child when they wouldn't pay him more.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

that money better get us a good import

oh wait

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Mitch  
Two weeks ago

Not brain surgery? He was cleared to play in Germany by FIBA, which could not happen if there was a contract in place with Adelaide. Adelaide are trying to get something out of a situation where there is nothing. If it was cut and dry they need to be paid there would be no need for heading to court. They dropped the ball.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Thanks for explaining it.

You would think "NBA out clause" will be spelled out exactly what it encompasses now in future NBL contracts with the advent of NBA two-way deals.

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FYI  
Two weeks ago

To the anon above

You have no idea about the situation or any facts involved. Creek had the player option which means he doesn't have a contract if he chooses that path. He didn't pick up the option and was cleared regardless. The 36ers low balled him well below what others on the team get paid despite being the teams best player.

There is only one person to blame for all of this.

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PeterJohn  
Two weeks ago

FWWI here's the 'NBA out clause' that used to be in the NBL Standard Player Contract, back in 2010-11. This was the contract published by the NBL Players' Association.

"18. NBA RELEASE

18.1 The Club agrees to enter into bona fide negotiations with the Player to release the player from this Contract if the Player receives a bona fide offer from a National Basketball Association ("NBA") Club.

18.2 The Club and the Player must negotiate an amount of compensation payable to the Club in good faith. If the parties cannot agree on an amount of compensation then the matter may be referred to arbitration under clause 15.

18.3 In the event that the Player returns to the NBL competition, the Player agrees that the Club may (at the sole discretion of the Club), subject to clause 18.4, require the Player to play for the Club in the NBL competition for the period of this Contract that is left unfulfilled by the release of the Player from this Contract.

18.4 If the Club requires the Player to play for the Club under clause 18.3, then the Club must:

(a) pay to the Player the Salary in accordance with the terms of this Contract for that period that the Player plays for the Club in the NBL competition.


18.5 The Club and the Player agree:

(a) to enter into a Deed of understanding to formalise the terms of the release of the Player by the Club; and

(b) that the Club must cause a copy of the Deed to be given to the NBL within seven (7) days of the Player and the Club entering into the Deed."

Who knows how far from this Creek's contract terms might vary but at least this gives some idea of what an NBA out-clause might look like. Anon's point above about 2-way deals would apply to the term "bona fide offer" in this clause, if that's how Creek's contract is written.

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Reality  
Two weeks ago

Adelaide are getting paid which is there right. They'll also get more if he makes the roster.

NBA clauses don't cover two way or G-League deals as said above and also only apply if you have a guaranteed deal...many still have some compensation figure on a pro rata basis depending on the time of the clubs season it occurs.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

I would doubt an NBL contract with BA would be the same now under Kestleman.

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Mitch  
Two weeks ago

PeterJohn, and what part of that contract does it say that the NBA team has to pay the NBL team? it is all NBL team and player negotiating a release. Last time Creek played it was not even for Adelaide.

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joshuapending  
Two weeks ago

Pretty sure the NBA club can payout to a limited amount and then the player has to pay the difference. It this case the dollar amount is small. Even if the sixers are doing the right thing (I don't think they have) the have botched up the publicity side of things so bad that the damage has been wide ranging.

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Mitch  
Two weeks ago

It's not even a true NBA contract. Sixers are just being douches as usual. Absolutely crazy. Worst run team in the NBL bar none.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Instead of speculating how about read the Addy!

"THE Adelaide 36ers and NBA franchise the Brooklyn Nets have agreed to terms for the release of the Sixers' former captain Mitch Creek.
Adelaide had filed an injunction to stop Basketball Australia giving Creek a clearance to sign with the Nets in a bid to secure compensation.
The club was reportedly seeking $100,000 if Creek is offered a spot on the roster. The Sixers said last night that terms of the agreement were confidential."

Paywall article in part.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Why did BA get potentially involved? That is dirty.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Worst run team in Nbl, can hear it now in Brisbane, challenge accepted!!!

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WookieE  
Two weeks ago

The crux of the matter is STILL why he was cleared to sign in Germany (was this just the regular short term end-of-season deals like other players?) and whether or not he took up the player option or not (sorry, it sounds convincing, but until either party confirms it, anon saying something is still just anon). I can't see why Creek would take up the player option without an increase in pay with the profile that he had and the amount of cash that other NBL teams at the very least would have thrown at him... it doesn't make sense...

If someone would just officially clear up whether he was signed with Adelaide or not, then I think everyone will be happy... well, internet happy, which is still at least 30% outraged, but it would be enough...

Either way, the 36ers have stuffed this up from a perception point of view with crap communication, as always...

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joshuapending  
Two weeks ago

Now you have Bogut saying he has heard that at least one team has gone after him already should he return and Ingles saying he knows one club he is not coming back to. They really have screwed the pooch here, don't think they really thought this through.

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Hogwash  
Two weeks ago

Maybe now Adelaide can move on and look forward to an exciting season ahead with DeLeon and co.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

DeLeon, LOL...

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

The Adelaide 36ers are pleased to advise that terms for Mitch Creek's release to the Brooklyn Nets have now been agreed.

The club has loved being a part of Mitch’s journey over the last eight years and is thrilled to have played a role in the opportunity Mitch has worked so hard for and thoroughly deserves.

On behalf of the entire Adelaide 36ers Family, we wish Mitch every success in the NBA and look forward to watching his progress.


http://www.adelaide36ers.com/news/article/38613-statement-regarding-mitch-creek

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MACDUB  
Two weeks ago

The funny thing is the way we are all forgetting that he hasn't even made the final roster yet and still has a lot of work to do to get there.

I mean yes technically its a release to the Nets - but in reality its a release to go attend a few trainings with the potential to prove yourself for something more.

Could potentially be a lot of bad publicity for nothing.

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Reality  
Two weeks ago

It was only bad publicity becuase Adelaide/NBL fans have no concept of how it works!

In Europe the fans hating seeing players leave to the NBA and want the club to get fair compensation as part of the that process.

It appears NBL fans think owners should just give assets away from free (and yes players are assets!)

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paul  
Two weeks ago

Agreed. Negotiations over releases are pretty common in Europe, we're just not used to them here. What also didn't help was Adelaide not explaining anything about the situation publicly, leaving fans to speculate.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

And not even informing Creek that they filed a Supreme Court injunction.

Reality, don't pretend this is normal or that fans are ignorant. This is amateur stuff by the Sixers.

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FYI  
Two weeks ago

@Reality

Fans are used to this since Bradtke going to Portland mid season, Cattalini going to Europe and Gaze going to college instead of playing a full NBL season. A multitude of examples exist.

You suggesting that this is new is laughable. Only a few years ago 36ers released DJ to Europe so it's very familiar to 36er fans in particular. It's been happening for years.

What isn't new is legal action against the face of the club, ostracising the player ,sponsors and fans in the process.

If a new owner wants to start setting up contracts to include buy outs etc thats fine but it cant be done retrospectively. It sure as hell cant be handled the way it has been handled by the 36ers on this occasion.

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Joshuapending  
Two weeks ago

Also I think fans have a sense of ownership (maybe not the right word) with regards to Mitch having him been with us for such a long time and seeing the work he has put in. And now should things not work out like we all hope there is little chance he will come back and play for us.

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יש לי להציע לקוחות חדשים לעסק שלך

אנו מפתחים ייעודיים סייבר עילית יצרנו קוד לאינסטגרם שבנוי על אינטליגנציה מלאכותית אינטואיטיבית

טכנולוגיה שוברת שיויון

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