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With our late inclusion to the Premier league and recruiting restrictions applied, the Pioneers have roster spots available. We are looking to speak with interested players, particularly women who are looking to advance their basketball.

Join the most successful regional basketball club in Australia and enjoy high level coaching, great gym and on court facilities, all just minutes from home.

The club will provide help with accommodation, part time work and most importantly tremendous support both on and off court.

If you believe you have game, ambition, a good work ethic and are up for a challenge, we have the opportunity.

If you would like to discuss this opportunity please email your contact details to [email protected] and we will have the appropriate people contact you.

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Anon  
Last year

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Anonymous  
Last year

Oh WOW!!!

This is terrible.

Mt. Gambier is running around having a go at BA and BSA about killing them and rather than using the opportunity of PL to develop locals all they can do is recruit.

So full of Sh$t.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Me again.

So;

2 x Sabre's

1 x Rocket

2 x imports

Will any locals get a run or will they just make do with 5 guys .

Wonder why the other SEABL clubs wanted to get rid of them?

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Anonymous  
Last year

Mt.G have been relatively quiet/humble. They're mad as hell at victorians. But then again who isn’t?

Starting a women’s team from scratch isn’t a bad idea. Centrals take note.

You expect pioneers to just dig 12+ Female premier league players out of the blue lake?

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Anonymous  
Last year

Hoops is the absolute last place I'd be looking for decent basketballers if the average user is anything to go by

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Anonymous  
Last year

Seabl at no stage Ever wanted MtGambier out. The rest of your post is therefore worthless.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Pioneers could pick any C grade social women's team and still be more competitive than Centrals.

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Reality  
Last year

Its obvious that they are struggling to fill a womens team so why not put it out there? Makes sense you never know who might turn up.

Then again this is why the Vic's didnt want them as putting together a womens team on short notice was always going to be an up hill battle.

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Anon  
Last year

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Anon  
Last year

Hi reality Nice to hear from you again. Always going to be tough putting a new team together from scratch. Try it starting at Christmas with a restriction on recruiting any PL players. Pioneers had a plan in place and plenty of players wanting to join them in Elite comp. Many of them SA players who have now signed with Melbourne clubs. We (Mount gambier) have been belted from every direction and are just trying to put two competitive teams on the floor. Men have a head start on women with 2 remaining players plus some kids that have been working with the group for some time. I just hope there is some understanding of my clubs situation. Clearly many people don't get it.

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Pop  
Last year

I agree a call out on hoops seems a little desperate, but why all the Mt Gambier hate? Seems to me they're trying to make the best of a bad lot not of their making.

Since they haven't been in the 'loop' established clubs have used to recruit players from other PL teams over the past few months [player development, anyone?] an invitation like this is probably worth a shot. That said, I wouldn't be relying on it to produce much quality, but who knows.

And I assume the message is also being seen in Victoria, where it seems the Pioneer brand is better recognised and perhaps more appreciated.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Reality keeping it real and people don't like it?

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Anonymous  
Last year

Anyone having a go at Gambier for this are truly idiots and obviously have little understanding of the predicament they are in, particularly trying to field a girls team from scratch. From what I know all PL clubs gave a list of players that could not be approached, up to 12 players from their current team. Anyone outside of that may be interested in the opportunity and why not. Grow up and for the record I am from a Premier League club, not the Mount.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Basketball... another example of major toxicity, why be involved, just why?!

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anon  
Last year

Mt Gambier need to advertise on the Basketball Vic page or even their facebook page if they have one, way more traffic than here

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Anon  
Last year

So typical of the anon. Know alls who just want to take pot shots from the cheap seats. Best of luck to MG. Good for basketball is always gd. So over the negativity. Easy to do.

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Maury Hayden  
Last year

I suppose that this highlights the simple fact that the Mount doesn't develop talent and that coach Hill and those before him bought $$ talent to the area. The Pioneers vision 30 years ago was to find a vehicle to showcase their local Junior/Senior talent and that was the SEBL as it was in those days. Slowly overtime the two good imports with the rest local 20 somethings and an abundance of State Country junior reps faded and it was who you could bring in and for what price. Sure the now locals who weren't from the Mount but stayed should be considered locals like De Witt, Russell, Mason and Joynes,Burdon, Sutton who were or still are long term residents. But the once great vision of a pathway for the Mount juniors is long gone. The last was David Bowden (who would have finished playing before most of the current list picked up a ball)!
Yes Coach Hill has had success, Can he coach - YES, can he recruit - HELL YES, can he or the Pioneers club develop talent - UNFORTUNATELY NO.

Female programs at any level in the Blue lake city has been in rapid decay for many decades and the male side is a "buy in" rather than a develop fix. The Pioneers and the feeder association in MTGBA have a long history of mistrust and not getting along even though it was MTGBA that was in control and nominated the Pioneers for the National competition 30 years ago. Both the Pioneers and the MTGBA are guilty of sitting on their hands for way to long.

So put this all into perspective when you consider the current PL rosters do have a connection with their junior programs and do attempt to have a pathway program in place. The Mount will finish 4th at best in the Men (collecting home wins) and the women will finish no higher than 8th with a rookie coach, no juniors and a "johnny come lately" philosophy to put together a team.

Its great they are now in the PL, but don't feel sorry for a club that never cared about its future in Juniors or Women's programs. I hope the Norths, Southern, Forestville and Wests of the competition show them what a real club can put on the floor.

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Anonymous  
Last year

you cant just develop anyone into an elite basketballer.

This idea that lack of local talent = lack of coaches developing talent is BS.

Players have a ceiling which can be reached with good coaching but they still have a ceiling.

Otherwise anyone could play in the NBA with the right coaching, which is simply not true.

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Anon  
Last year

Hi Maurie Nice thoughtful post. There is no doubt that the Pioneers have brought talent into the town to compete in SEABL. Unfortunately it was that or perish. A township of 25K trying to compete with Melbourne teams Hobart Canberra Geelong Ballarat etc etc could never survive without bringing in a significant number of players. The recent success has been more about those players staying and yes believe it or not developing their games.Lets not get fact in the way of a good story. Last year the Pioneers had 6 of their first 10 players that were born in the Mount or Millicent. Whether it be men women football netball basketball etc a huge % of the youth leave regional towns and move to the city and in sport are encouraged to do so. To put it quite bluntly Maurie without bringing talent in the Pioneers would have been dead 25 years ago and the enjoyment and opportunity they have provided would never have occurred. In closing if you wish to blow off the contribution to basketball and the community of those that have came and stayed you have a serious chip on your shoulder.

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Maury Hayden  
Last year

Those 6 you speak of would struggle at other PL clubs! Tell me if they are on the roster for 2019? They played in 40% of the games with token minutes at very best.
Recruit recruit and recruit, don't kid yourself about this being a local backs against the wall club.

The Mount had a Women's team in the SEABL once, what happened??

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Anonymous  
Last year

Yet in the PL topic someone says there are a few local Mt Gambier players already in PL, yet doesn't name them for fear of outing them. Who are they and wouldn't they be ideal for a return home.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Anon #070

They may have eaten humble pie, but saying that they refuse to enter PL because it's beneath them and then being forced to enter because no one else will take them is hardly being humble.

They’ve had 30 years to start a women’s team. That they haven’t, but rather spent all their money on buying players who have been developed elsewhere to win a competition where everyone else is using their budget over 2 teams is hardly developing a pathway for local players.

That the only benefit that they could offer to the PL competition is that 'players can play in front of a larger crowd’ shows that they add little or no value to the competition. But rather are using the competition to leave it to move back to the VIc Elite leaguebin the future says everything to how humble they are.

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Anonymous  
Last year

And when they get there it won't be the local female players in their teams, but them poaching and buying players in with promises of money and jobs which in no way serve these players in the long term

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cat  
Last year

wow..everyone so wise about the makeup of the female team..and totally clueless

did your palm reader give you the final ladder positions?

wouldn't you actually wait till you KNOW the respective rosters then pass comment?

ahh Hoops..so few wise men..so many trolls

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Anon  
Last year

Maury (unusual name) don't "peddle you know what". Look up Kane DeWitt and Kyle Tippene I'm sure a well researched guy like you will have the stats at your finger tips. Then post how many minutes those two guys played. BTW they have both gone to PL and QBL along with the others who like the pioneers had uncertain futures.

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Cram  
Last year

The hate for Mt Gambier clearly comes from a place of insecurity. They're making the best of the mess that was the winding up of the SEABL

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Anonymous  
Last year

Didn't one of those promising Mount juniors get kicked out of a junior college for boosting a car? Southern should sign him quick smart as he would do well down at MV.

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Anonymous  
Last year

The OP - Maury Hayden was the name of one of the Pioneers inaugural imports along with Dwayne Cross under coach Doug Romain. So he or she obviously has knowledge of the Pioneers history.

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Anonymous  
Last year

There was also a Maury Hayden born in Melb and played for Ballarat. An arch enemy of Pioneers. No proof who anybody is on here. You can make up any name you like, be it real or false.
Feel sorry for Mounts. Not easy trying to get a team together in short timeframe. Many players left for better offers when it was all in limbo.
Also hard when they can't approach any of the existing PL squads. Even if a good local was born in Mt Gambier most move away and set themselves up in Adelaide or interstate. Travelling back to the mount for training and home games is not very attractive.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Pioneers cant approach PL player because they said they wouldn't if the presidents voted them in,

our model will be to keep what we have , get 2 Americans and play locals,

once voted in they conveniently forgot that promise and the list of 12 players per club needed to be created

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Anonymous  
Last year

Are you sure it wasn't Pl clubs panicking after believing player bullshit who were trying to use mtg to inflate their contracts.

Would have thought that to be considered a pl player you might have actually had to have played a pl game.

It is also 24 players per club!

I think the phrase is jumping at shadows....

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Maury Hayden  
Last year

The best current Mount born junior would be Mike Harris from Forestville. Although Harris left the Mount when he was 14 and was developed 100% by the Eagles.
Kane & Kyle are solid players but their careers took many different stops before getting a serious look in with their "home town Pioneers". Kane joins Harris @ Forestville with Brother Zach on Woodville's PL squad list.

Lachy Hunter is a 6’8 big man that returned last year from a community college in California (not the before mentioned car boosting Mount junior) and could be decent at PL level given opportunity.

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