Isaac
Earlier this year

Reuben Te Rangi wins Sixth Man and Most Improved

Solid option for both awards and won despite reasonable competition in each case.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Barlow or Kay for MIP imo

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koberulz  
Earlier this year

"Solid option"? He isn't the best bench player on his own team...

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koberulz  
Earlier this year

With the new criteria, no way Barlow should have won it. Or even been nominated. How that happened I have no idea.

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Zodiac  
Earlier this year

Barlow should've won Most Improved, Te Rangi fell away quite a bit in the last 1/3 of the season.

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Ingles13  
Earlier this year

I had Jett as 6th man and Kay for MIP

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LV  
Earlier this year

Plenty of good options for both awards. Te Rangi must be happy he managed both

What's the voting process on these ones?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Wow, some dudes opened up their bottles of hateraide this morn.
Most Improved had to be TeRangi, looking at the numbers, and not previously reaching that level in his career. Nobody is saying Barlow wasn't incredible this year, just that it doesn’t make sense that a player of his previous calibre could be "most improved". Numbers don’t lie in this case.
Who was better off the bench for them numbers wise this season Koberulz? Take the emotion out of it, TeRangi was great.

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koberulz  
Earlier this year

Who was better off the bench for them numbers wise this season Koberulz?
If you insist on narrowing it down to numbers, in terms of +/- Te Rangi is -79, Vukona +86.

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AngusH  
Earlier this year

I concur with Zodiac. Te Rangi had a couple of nice games late in the season, but otherwise his great season was heavily front-loaded. Mika looked to me like he had nothing left in the tank last season but really turned it around this year and I think I'd have voted for him taking the whole season into account.

MIP is fair for Te Rangi who was probably on the cusp of falling out of the league (or signing with Cairns) before this season. Barlow was plenty good early in his career and shouldn't be a candidate for MIP.

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Cram  
Earlier this year

Considering so many people on this board thought Te Rangi was lucky to even be in the league I think this is a well earned win.

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K4L  
Earlier this year

Agreed.

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D4444  
Earlier this year

I would have liked to see Weeks pickup MIP I guess he did too well with Cairns last season.

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AngusH  
Earlier this year

Weeks was kinda the opposite to Te Rangi and really blossomed late. If he'd played that way all year he'd have been MIP I think. Breakers should've thrown him in at starter months ago and sent Ili back to that reserve role that I think is best suited to him.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Yet more arbitrary awards with selection criteria nobody understands.

The 6th man makes no sense on many levels. Given the different composition of squads, the way coaches use players, and even the way a player's role will change throughout the season, it really too hard to nail down.
If you consider that Goulding started in less than half his games, how is he not best 6th Man?
I would also definitely have Jett ahead of Te Rangi, just an all-round better player.

Most Improved, should be renamed, to something like "Rising Star" or similar. To convey the point that it is clearly about young players on the up.
Last year, the "most improved" player was Walker. This year Barlowe or Steindl.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

"If you insist on narrowing it down to numbers, in terms of +/- Te Rangi is -79, Vukona +86."

Yes. Numbers that have no import at all for anything. Until they start to use numbers that actually take into account what the oppostion does they are pointless.

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