Anonymous
Earlier this year

Alex Mudronja to 36ers...

3 year DP contract. Kind of a head scratcher. A lot of people thought he would start at Saint Mary's last year after their point guard tore his ACL in a pre season scrimmage, but he ended up out of the rotation after losing a position battle to a walk on. Pretty unheard of for a scholarship player. He ended up out of the rotation, averaging under 4 minutes a game and shooting 14% from 3 on a decent mid major team. He’s a big body and fairly athletic, but has poor handles and a flat jump shot. Not sure he makes the grade in the NBL.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Another one of sturts success stories in div 1 along with White and Carter. Wait for the Sabres spin machine to claim how successfull their college program is.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Is that 4 minute a game Ben Carter?

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Hogwash  
Earlier this year

Sounds like a Sixers signing.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

So the Anon that's hating on this right now knows zero about the deal at all. Typical of SA Club mentality to attack based on a junior club. I’m not associated with any club, but know the deal very well. Year 2 and 3 of the deal are both fully rostered positions, so he will be playing and developing as a pro under Joey Wright, who has shown the ability to get a great deal out of young players!

So people on here complain at the lack of SA kids, then one gets signed with huge upside, and people still find a way to hate.

As always, watch and wait(or hate) as he will be a hell of player!

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

"Poor handles and flat jumpshot. Not sure he makes the grade in NBL"

Similar things were said about Mitch Creek's chance of playing NBA. Love the fake ass scouts on here that think they know a bit. Who have you helped or developed?

Alex, further to an NBL career, also has a Euro passport and huge upside! Played some outstanding basketball in the SEABL before going away too.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Yes, those 10 day contracts on lottery teams sure proved he will be a long term successful NBA player.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Sorry, Brooklyn weren't a lottery team, but Phili sure made them look like one.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Sure, he received a division 1 scholarship but how much did he even play?

Sure, he played in the nba but only on a 10-day, his team wasn't even good

Who are you people!?!? What ridiculous comments

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Zodiac  
Earlier this year

Mitch Creek in just one year in the US did a training camp with an NBA team, got three 10 day contracts from multiple NBA teams and impressed his last NBA team so much they've asked him to back over early later this month to start working with their guys and instilling a good team culture.

Creek will be back in the NBA next season if not with Minnesota then another team.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

If you say so Phil Jackson

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

First Sturt junior on a NBL roster since Corey Maynard? Any others since then?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Doyle

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Was Alex a Sturt or Woodville junior or both

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

The anon troll that's taking the piss, is clearly disappointed in their own/and or children’s basketball success, and feel the need to be the "Tall Poppy" moderator. You idiot! Playing any minutes on an NBA court is exceptional you clown! To top that, he’s been invited back early (left today) to go back and start culture building.

FYI he was also a fully contracted player by the end of the season. His numbers 4.2ppg 2.4rebs and 1.2Ast in just over 9 mins per game is exceptional, particularly for you people saying “on lottery teams” etc. What a joke to are to even feel the need to take time out of your Sunday to comment is a negative way, to a true Aussie battler that is doing his country proud.

Mind boggling

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Imagine defending blokes who don't know you exist on a website they’d never visit with this much passion

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Imagine I know both very well, and have all the details you never will. Imagine your Sunday involving a good troll as the highlight of your week.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Okay mate

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

I might sound racist lol but you anons all look the same to me.

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Anon  
Earlier this year

Good luck Alex. Great to get SA boy in Sixers. So even before steps on court again the I am the guru come out to critize. Christ if you wankers are so good at spotting deficiencies why are you sharing you knowledge at clubs nbl level. Or are you just arse holes who think your smart pot shorting from cheap seats. Another sturt prodigy but of course why even give any credit.

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

No avatar = fake Perthworld

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

You're*
Pot shotting*

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Who's this forward Joey speaks of from Europe?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

For the 18th time, Obi Kyei

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Anon  
Earlier this year

For the 18th time he's not a rim protecting/same size as Deng player! Might be a development player?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

"Love the fake ass scouts on here that think they know a bit."
Quote of the year.

Like all the "coaches" that have only ever played Z grade basketball if at all yet give such incisive opinions based on ZERO experience at any elite level.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Bruce Willis..?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Yes but we should all take your word for it that you definitely do know things though hey boys

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I really don't get the Mudronja signing, all club politics aside. Had a very very average college career, surely there are others heading back that had way better. Isn't even a big that sometimes take a while to develop. Isn't even a real specialist in an area. Could see Isaac White as a shooter off the bench but this is really shocking to be honest. Drmic, McVeigh had great college careers, way this looks I don't even think he would start for Sturts premier league team!

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Ok, another expert that hasn't done his research. Firstly, McVeigh had an ordinary college career, which is why he left early also. Check the numbers.
Mudronja, is an 6’5 PG that has huge upside. He left a very good program that won the WCC this year after his Freshman year, so that he could develop further under Joey. He is very young still and will be an NBL star. Before Grida went to the combine, people said he was also not at NBL level etc, and he had a great first year. The signing makes a lot of sense.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

McVeigh had a solid sophomore campaign with 7.5 ppg, pretty handy in a strong conference. Not sure what happened in junior year but Mudronja averaging less than a point and getting beaten out by a walk on is embarrassing. At what basis are you saying he will be a star, good luck for him but there are way more talented kids out there.
What is it with Sturt kids struggling on bigger stage, is it because their junior teams are stacked so whoever has a bad matchup or they are just thrashing teams by just having better talent makes them look better. Isaac White seemed legit and I think will be good in nbl just purely by his work ethic and Rigoni will be interesting with his old man game and fundamentals. But Carter should never have gone Div 1, terribly out of shape. Might have started premier league last year but quickly sat.

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Brunson  
Earlier this year

"Had a very very average college career"

He played one year. Who knows how he would have gone in following years

"surely there are others heading back that had way better. "

Such as? Are they willing to be a Development player for a year? Do they have NBL size length and large potential?

"McVeigh had great college careers"

McVeigh averaged 1.9 points per game in his last season. Hardly a great college career.

"I don't even think he would start for Sturts premier league team"

Lucky you don't know what you are talking about. He averaged 15 points per game in SEABL (if your interpretation of "great" is 1.9 PPG I wonder what 15 PPG is...)

For whatever reason Alex didn't get the opportunity at college. At 6'5 Alex is more suited to the NBL then White would/will be. Had better stats then White did in his final year playing for South Australia. He has played for the Australian Junior national team.

I think I would go with Wright's opinion over yours....

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Brunson  
Earlier this year

"What is it with Sturt kids struggling on bigger stage.... Isaac White seemed legit and I think will be good in nbl just purely by his work ethic and Rigoni will be interesting with his old man game and fundamentals."

Bags Sturt then pumps up White and Rigoni. You are quite clever.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Most of us on here could start for Sturts premier league team to be honest

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Ok, answer these questions.
A) Did he have a good, average, bad college year
B) Why did he not play much when the team needed a guard
C) If there was a problem in coaching why not transfer
D) Is his shooting a major liability
E) Will he replace guys like Tyson Hoffman and Akol Deng as practice bait
F) Are there other guys out there with brighter future such as Jimma Dau and Harris who should get contract
G) Why are same people ripping apart Teys signing backing a kid that has no game currently, whoops, hang on, he scored on a young team that needed someone to Jack up shots.
H) Is it purely because he is from sturt and a certain person has Joeys ear atm.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Yeah, Alex's agent has Joey’s ear. Same agency as Creek, Sobey, McVeigh, Froling. Notice a pattern? The company has signed great talent, and I can tell you this, they don’t care what his junior club was, just that he has the potential to have a great pro career.
Whilst your busy continuing to ask dumb ass questions that make you sound small minded, ask yourself this, who have you helped/developed?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Google "Tommy Kuhse" and consider that Mudronja at 6'5 could not out compete him. Then jumped ship and quit at the first sign of adversity. Not great signs for his nbl potential.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

You don't need to be Phil Jackson to see he has a flat shot and poor handles. 14% from 3 and couldn’t bring the ball up the court without getting picked off the dribble.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

So the agency decided to sign him because they saw nothing in him?
One thing I know about "googling" things, is that you find out more if you spend time to do actual research. He only attempted 7 shots from three his Freshman year, under a high pressure situation, so hardly a whole body of work. The name Kuhse popped up as being one of the major boosters of the St Mary's program.

Harry Froling shot the 3 at 21% his last year in college and didn’t average many shots either. But I guess “Phil Jackson” thought he’d come and be rookie of the year also.

I’m not sure why you’ve gone to such lengths to discredit Alex, but it’s not working. I think between Joey, his agency and the Centre of Excellence/National teams, I’ll go with their assessment, not a salty Adelaide based club person.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Plenty of kids leave college early for many reason. There are almost 1000 transfers a season in division 1 college hoops so if Carter got it wrong he can transfer and figure it out.

Let's not forget that if becoming a topline pro is the only measure of success then the vast majority fail will fail to even get to the D1 college level, most D1 college guys will fail to get to the pros and then quite a few pros will fail to be a topline professional. It is easy to sit on here and bag all the failures. It is easy to predict failure, with no real knowledge or insight and be right pretty much all the time. But what about those that predict success and get that right. Become one of those and you won't need to be on here bagging kids. You will actually be IN the game.

Sports is messy and success is rarely a straight line. If it was easy people like the posters above would be there themselves in the game but for whatever reason you are where you are posting sh*t here, anonymously on a forum.

I would suggest this kid would have spent a fair bit of time training with 6ers when he was in town. So Joey would have seen him there.

Up until recently there have not been many male athletes from Adelaide, go CoE (do so well there), MVP of U20 nationals type stuff go to a school like St Marys (one of the top mid major programs in the whole thing) and come back to the 6ers. I for one think this is a great thing for the kid, the sport and the next crop of young men coming through to look up and see a pretty cool pathway for this kid and maybe try to emulate it in their own way.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Hangon so you expect that if one of the best prospects out of SA in the past 10 years decides college is not for him and wants to explore options you expect the 6ers to NOT sign him and give him a chance to develop at the NBL level. You want him with Cairns, Illawarra or Sydney? ahhhh ohhhhhhhk.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Janx you make some good points

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Simple mind, very simple. But in all seriousness, what's your kids name, and which team didn’t they make?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

6ers can't win. People have complained for years they haven’t signed local talent & have let them go elsewhere. Now they sign someone who appears to be a good prospect, certainly one of the best local prospects we have & it’s still the wrong thing.

I don’t think they’re paying him huge money nor are they suggesting he will be a stud right away.

As far as 36ers signings go this off season this would be one of the best, not the worst.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Put it this way if its a choice between Johnson (BJ) and Mudronja it isn't really a difficult decision to make is it.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Those that want to complain about local talent. Better get used to it.

I'd hope the 6ers would be monitoring lots of SA kids overseas right now just like most NBL clubs are.
Garang, Hulland, White, Rigoni, Mayen, Hoppo, Heading, Dibiamaka, Sapwell are some of the young men that spring to mind that the 6ers need to have on their radar. Through in the late bloomers Harris, Jimma into the mix now too.

Joey and his staff is proven to take young athletes and develop them. Sobey's, DJs and Creeks development is not by chance.

There has been almost 2 decades of a barron waste of talent from SA. Sorry to say to the poster above, but that time is now over.

Pretty exciting time ahead to see where this takes basketball in this city tbh.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

How did the development of talent go with Larkins, Doyle, Davis....the list is just as long of the failures as is his list of accomplishments. Ever thought the players that succeeded had a better predisposed talent level? Greater work ethic? Not every young player Joey has brought in has become a high level NBL player.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I like the move. The kid can play and has great size for his position. This is the kind of guy Joey can help get to the next level.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

None of the players you mentioned were official DP's with a 3 year deal, rostered 2 and 3. None were paid, with exception of Larkins for a few match payments. None of them were COE or Aust team level talent. None were good d1 talent. None of them signed with the agency Alex did either. Just saying.
Get over yourself. Your position is flawed on every angle. I’m sure if we found out who you are, it’d be clear why you’re hating so much.

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Hogwash  
Earlier this year

Busy thread for a DP.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

"There has been almost 2 decades of a barron waste of talent from SA."

Tell that to Newley, Ingles, Maher, Madgen etc.

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Hendo8888  
Earlier this year

Newley debuted in the NBL in 04, Ingles debuted in 06, Maher debuted in 92.
Madgen in the only one this decade that has been any good. We obviously missed out on the most recent 3, but they've all been out of the league for years anyway.
All well and good to say we need local talent to add to the team, but if there isn't any, you just take what you can get.
We've done well, in spite of the lack of local talent, of bringing young college returnees and young players from other states.
Creek, Drmic, Froling, Deng, Sobey, DJ, McVeigh, Hodgson. That's a decent list.
We gave Doyle as many opportunities as we possibly could to come good, and he never did. Same with guys like Johns.
We've now grabbed another bloke, who must have been ok at some point to get a Div 1 scholarship, as a Development player. It doesn't even matter if he doesn't come good, he's not in the rotation anyway, but we get first look at him.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Madgen and Newley are the same age.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

#595 breathe big fella. I was not comparing the previous DP's to Alex. My comment was for every player Joey developed there has been just as many he has brought in that he didn't develop. The players that he has Creek and Sobey for example have elite work ethic and would have developed anywhere. Have a cup of tea and relax.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

How can you say that the others haven't been developed? What is your criteria of success? A development player becoming a NBA player? Legitimate NBL star? Roster player? Surely you have to appreciate this will be the exception and not the norm?

Quoting failure to discredit when failure is the most likely outcome based on how limited NBL roster spots and NBL minutes are to come by is not presenting a great case?

Just comes across as hate/jealousy.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Everyone is singing the praises of the great developer. Just pointing out plenty have sat on the bench and never made it. Sorry if I hurt your feelings.

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Anon  
Earlier this year

In fairness Marty Clark was in charge during DJ's and Mitch's early development years. These two were going to be high level players regardless of HC. Joey backs his guys in which is an important part of development. The coach cops it when his team loses so I guess its only fair to credit them with the natural improvement of highly skilled and athletic players. DJ Creek and Sobey have that something extra.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Cheers AS.

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EAD  
Earlier this year

To the one anon that is still in denial and keeps bringing up stupid topics, as said earlier, if we knew who you were, I'm sure it would be clear why you’re saying what you’re saying.

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D2.0  
Earlier this year

It seems the vast majority of local talent elect to go to College in the USA.
Then when they graduate, they take the best offer available to them.
For a select few, that's the NBA. Most of the good players seem to go to Europe, with a handful getting offers in the NBL.

It's very hard to develop "local" (as in your own city/state) talent when there are more lucrative offers out there.
eg McDaniels was reportedly offered big bucks to sign with MU last year.

Otherwise what you end up with is guys that have no offers and come home to play in the local league. I think teams do give them opportunities, but very few will ever make the grade.
And when they do, people bitch and moan about why their team is hiring crabs.

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Octopus  
Earlier this year

For persons that dont know Alex loved his time at Saint Marys, leaving great team mates and program would have been difficult.
Being offered a 3 year deal with 36s - going pro, great coach, great culture, and a league thats now breading great talent you can see why.
People may not know that the 19 year old has been away from home since the age of just 16 years where he lived at the Institute of Sport in Canberra.
Its time to celebrate South Australia - Alex Mudronja is back in town and will do great things for the 36s and South Australian Basketball!!! Welcome Home.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Did you say great culture @ the 36ers?

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Ushiro  
Earlier this year

Looking at this from left field, how many players are drafted each year into the AFL and how many have a long AFL career? The actual % is quite low for those who actually play over 50 games.


Have a look at the players who were drafted in positions 40 plus or even on the Rookie list that have gone on to have long and successful careers. Rory Sloane was pick 44, James Hird was pick 79. Ben Rutten was Pick 40 in the Rookie Draft.

Odds are that Alex may have a very average NBL career but until he actually plays, how will we actually know. Certainly as a 6'5" point guard, he would have a bit more upside than a 5'11" Nelson Larkins or a few other development players of similar size that have been flag waving on the 36ers bench.

Height doesn't mean that you will be a good player though - who remembers John Parker playing for Westie a long time ago?

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global  
Earlier this year

AFL clubs have been after him also!!!

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Double Clutch  
Earlier this year

Hendo8888 - small correction to your post. Majok Deng is a local not from interstate (played juniors with Forestville). Doesn't invalidate your general point of course.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Go well Alex. Good luck to you! Hope you map out a great career.

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Gael ‘92  
Earlier this year

I logged in here to find out why Alex left SMC. As an alum I was surprised and bummed he left. There is no real reason I can find unless it was simply that he was offered a deal with the 36'ers but that is not typical. As a HUGE fan of the Gaels, my son and I were looking forward to seeing him develop in Moraga. I wish him well but does anyone know if there were other reasons he left SMC? I watched every game last season and Alex typically came into the game with a minute or 2 left when the game was in the bag but that is what most Freshmen get unless they are a Mills or Delli. Kuhse might have been a walk-on but he played with the heart of a lion and surprised the hell out of me as he came out of no where. I’d love to know what happened if any of you know the full story. I love the program and I am just very curious. Thanks.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Great kid but really bad decision, as he will play little to nothing in Joeys system.

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Zodiac  
Earlier this year

He's signed a 3 year deal with the 36ers the first year as a development player and the last two years as a fully contracted player, I would consider that a great deal for him.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Barely any talent in SA so might as well nab him.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Which NBA team is Creek playing for this season? He was guaranteed to be in the league by someone in here.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

It's a shame that team loyalty and building a culture isn't a value in the Mudronja family. He probably couldn't accept not being a star after tearing up friday night games with the refs on his side at pasadena. Just take a look a look at what his brother did the other week after the u23 granny. Didn't go with the rest of his team to accept the runners up trophy and instead just left. couldn't accept being a bench player. poor culture, hope he doesn't bring it to the 6ers

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Creek has played NBA but that doesn't make him NBA quality.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Mudronja is not that good to be honest.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

"I logged in here to find out why Alex left SMC"

Unlike most College players, Mudronja was given a choice as to how he could spend the next 3 years.
Sitting on the bench for the Gaels, in front of strangers, whilst earning nothing and getting a degree in "American Literature", with zero chance of it leading anywhere. OR
Sitting on the bench in Adelaide, in front of Family and Friends, whilst getting paid a real salary to train with adults, and with the chance it might lead to an NBL career.

I realise that for American kids, "going away to College" and spending four years huffing bongs is considered a right of passage, and it's every kids dream to do it on a scholarship. But it appears that a few Aussie kids are now realising that it wastes 4 years of their life, and particularly wastes 4 years when they could be playing for money.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

17k is hardly a 'real salary'.
'American Literature' would be his choice. Strangely enough there are real degrees to be had.
Reality is 4 years of basketball at college is bloody hard work. They invest a LOT of money in these players and get their pound of flesh in return.
Some players can't hack it, end of story.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

This is all so funny to read. In my experience these people are the same armchair experts that will say I told you so when they kid does make it. Or even say "my inability to assess talent inspired him to succeed". It is easy to predict the "failures" because the vast majority won't make it. Either way it is funny to watch and listen to you. That is how you people operate.

Your real ability to talent ID comes through predicting those that ultimately will succeed and even better being able to add meaningful value to their journey.

The kid must be having a tough time though; 3 yr pro deal, including 2 yrs on the roster, played for Australia junior team a couple months ago with some of the best young Aussie prospects there are, just played over a quarter testing himself against one of the best prospects on the planet in RJ last week and now in Utah as his team preps for the Jazz game.
Tough times LOL. What are you'll doing right now :)

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