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Earlier this year

Mount Gambier to the NZNBL

NZNBL have confirmed that they've applied. Interesting expansion for the NZ league!

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

lol wot

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Good luck to them, if they got the coin do it. Nbl 1 will fall behind more, seabl should have been kept.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

My guess is playing in the NZNBL is going to take more coin than SEABL. But if Hobart can do it there really isn't any reason MTG can’t. But to say NZNBL will replace or reduce NBL1 is ridiculous. Also they might need a new updated stadium first.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

A $40 million complex including basketball has been announced for Mount Gambier.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Nbl 1 is a shadow of seabl. They pay less and have a longer season, nznbl will take all the better nbl players who are available.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Wow. Someone must have some cash. Once you catch a plane to The Mount is expensive. Far more than to Hobart. It's a regional leg and I doubt that this will ever happen.Everyone must fly from Melb to there. Not in a Million years.

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Hanging Round  
Earlier this year

Easy
Just catch the bus to NZ and back to Mt G.

Would be an expensive exercise to undertake every 2 weeks.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Hey #983, you do know there are no direct flights from NZ to Tasmania don't you?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Rock or hard place for Mt Gambier.

Premier League not a long term option.

BA/BV blocking NBL1.

Good on them for having a go. Fighting for their future.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Probably just doing it to put some pressure on to be allowed into NBL1

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

...or desperately looking for way to survive and prosper.

Given that they pretty much left them to cease to exist last year, not sure that BA/BV will be too stressed.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

"Premier League not a long term option."

Can anyone explain this? Not having a go, just thought playing in their own state would make a lot of sense.

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Hogwash  
Earlier this year

Title could say Mt Gambier have applied for NZBL.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Should say

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

"Hey #983, you do know there are no direct flights from NZ to Tasmania don't you?"
Sure do. However its about $400 return to The Mount. Before you even leave for NZ. A lot dearer than Hbt to Mel.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Might want to check your figures there 001

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I did quick experiment on webjet.com

Melb to Mount flights return...
MEL to MOUnt $217.... MOUNT to MELB $173.... total return including taxes etc $424, so I guess approx. $400 is about right.
becomes an expensive exercise for the home team and away team I guess? $430 x 13 (10 players, 2 coaches, 1 team manger) = $5590 just return from Melbourne.

AUCK to MELB $289.... MELB to AUCK $313 (flying Air NZ).... total return including taxes etc $681. As above $681 x 13 = $8853

5590 + 8853 = 14443 for each return trip to/from NZ.

that's a lot of fund to find for the whole season. but hey good luck to Mount Gambier if they have an infinite cash flow to sustain it.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

And its exactly the same if you take normal fares from Melbourne to Hobart return using Qantas

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Cairns could join NZBL :)-

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Does this mean their women's team is done?

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Curtley  
Earlier this year

The population of Mt Gambier is around 25K, smallest region in NZ that supports a team in about 80K. Surely the NZNBL doesnt let this happen.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

You would think it unlikely Curtley but if you don't ask you don't know

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

If they've got the budget what does it matter population wise. Mt. Gambier are the best club outside of the NBL in Australia. Their success at SEABL level speaks volumes and the fact the Victorian teams couldn't beat them was a driving force in kicking them out. They have a huge budget and the whole town backs them. A very well run organisation.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

The Pioneers will be able to offer both Aussies players and imports the opportunity to play in a league of higher quality than any Australian winter league. And to live within driving distance of Melbourne and Adelaide.

They have a very good coach, strong community and commercial support and it won't be that long before they have a new stadium / community hub to play in.

They have been punching above their weight for some time now. It was one reason the Vics were finding reasons to get rid of them. Hopefully SA can get behind them.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I do not think it is as easy as Mt Gambier having the big budget. Teams from the NZ mainland would have to have a double header Souther and Mt Gambier and it's their budgets that may not be able to sustain the increased cost.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Good question about their women's program. One of the main concerns with the SEABL teams was the advantage they had only having to pay for a men's team.

Would be a shame if they decided to drop their women's team after only one year.

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John  
Earlier this year

- BV had as much responsibility to include MTG in their new comp as BNSW or BSA would to include a Victorian team. Which is nil. Why they included Tas Teams, who knows ? Their comp, they can choose. BA shut down SEABL, wasn't up to BV to pick up the pieces for MTG.

- MTG not being included because "Victorian Teams couldn't beat them" is a bit of a laugh too. A quick search will show that sure, MTG have been great for the past 5 or 6 years, a Dynasty almost, but hadn't won all that much before that. And even over the past 5 or 6 years, they didn't win every year. Like all sports, clubs/teams will have a run where a great group stick together and enjoy great success. Certainly wouldn't mean they'd dominate the NBL1 for the next decade or two. Players retire, money runs out, coaches leave.

- I'm glad they're doing well, building a new facility etc. I enjoyed watching them play in the old SEABL comp. Hopefully they can get a Womens program sorted, and maybe that'll be the catalyst for them to re-enter NBL1, if it was indeed the lack of a womens program that kept them out.

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Team Mate  
Earlier this year

Unfortunately John, you have no idea what are talking about.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I would hope they commit to the PL sooner than they did this year!!

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Can't commit until you've been invited.

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Unreal  
Earlier this year

To Be honest what was the point of them coming into the league for one season!!!!!!!!!
Really what a waste of time, to accommodate this team for their own selfishness because they were dumped by Victoria as they couldn't field a competitive women's team!!!
They always were looking to be elsewhere and just used this comp as a fill in, BSA should have stuck with their original vote of NO to them joining the Comp

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

MT G took the time to regroup and move on? NO guarantee that they will be admitted. The difference between SEABL and the NZBL is massive. Personally as someone who has see the Pioneers play over many seasons I doubt that they will be competitive and there will be NO locals in that side. Is that what MT Gambier really wants?

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John  
Earlier this year

Feel free to correct me Team Mate.

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Zodiac  
Earlier this year

Boti says it's likely the NZ-NBL well accept Mt Gambier into their league and they sound pretty keen to have the Pioneers too.

The NZ-NBL looks very likely to accept Mt Gambier, which would be huge for the city, the region, the league and the sport.

"The Pioneers have been a leading team in basketball during the winter months in Australia and through the change from SEABL to NBL1 this year they were left in limbo, which despite their incredible success, no doubt was a bit of a shock," Nelson said.

"The Pioneers board and staff have been incredibly professional in the way they have worked with us and they have presented a very strong case for inclusion in the NZNBL."


http://www.botinagy.com/blog/pioneers-to-sail-across-tasman/

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Krazy  
Earlier this year

Excuse my ignorance but where does there financial backing come from? Not a highly populated town.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Pretty sure they have no idea of the costs. No equalisation in the NZBL afaik.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

They are getting a 40 million dollar stadium. They'll be in the NBL before you know it. Don't underestimate Mt. Gambier for getting shit done.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Certainly it will have to be 3+ years now.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

you cant seriously think that they have no idea of the costs.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

The Mount are up themselves and this will never happen in a million years. The NBL will never go back down the path of the "all in" times of the League. Geelong, Gold Coast etc etc have all been in and are better options right now than the Mount but wont be ever NBL franchises again.

The only NBL linkage for the Mount is Richard "Mr Personality" Hill who thinks he is at that level! BSA were absolute idiots for giving these bloodsuckers an opportunity in the PL! I would have asked for 3 years minimum rather than letting them in for one year at the competitions and clubs expense.

No other state league would allow this, but hey this is BSA.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Haha please show us where the club have ever said that nbl is ever going to be considered, of course it isn't and never will be. Only mentioned here buy trolls. You seem to have been sucked in.

The nznbl is an entirely different beast.

What is your issue with Richard Hill. Jealous of his record?

Think you will find it was bsa and the other clubs who only offered a one year deal and then reassess not the mount demanding one year as you suggest. Again could you perhaps point to where club have said they don’t want to participate in the bsa league next year.

Also if you could point out how having pioneers in pl is at cost to competition or clubs? You realise the Adelaide clubs are having all their travel costs met and pioneers were barred from recruiting any players from pl clubs don’t you?

You have clearly shown in your post how clueless you are.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I think the post about the Pioneers NBL ambitions was a bit tongue in cheek.

They were scrambling to just survive and belatedly managed to get a year in PL, but with big restrictions on their recruiting.

They are still looking for a way forward, but are grateful to the PL clubs for the opportunity this season.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Anyone know what's going on with this? Are they definitely leaving PL? Great to watch but would be nice to have a chance of winning the title again if they leave.

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Tassie Devil  
Earlier this year

The level of competition is a massive step up that's for sure.
I would expect that if the current MtG side played in the NZBL they would get smashed.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Why would you think that, should they be accepted, MtG would field the same side they currently have playing in Premier League?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Mt G. in the PL has been nothing but a huge success. Teams have enjoyed travelling there and it has allowed the Pioneers to put together a very decent women's side along with their always competitive men. Yes, they won't stick in the PL but it has been a worthwhile exercise for them and the league. Best of luck to them wherever they play next year be it NZ or NBL1.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

So the same team is going to play in the PL and the NZBL?

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