Anonymous
Years ago

Wildcats named 2020 NBL Champions; Cotton finals MVP

The right outcome

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Wonder what happens to punters who put money on Sydney.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Logic

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Yes it is the right outcome, I'm disappointed that kings at least didn’t fight it out, even if imports wanted out, imo Smith went along with the decision but I’m not convinced it’s the one he’d have made on his own.

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Kai  
Years ago

So Anticlimatic... but Yay. Ring ceremonies on first home game.

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Btown  
Years ago

Congrats cats and cotton.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I'm a Perth fan and I'm happy but acknowledge the asterix that goes with this win.

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Lovebroker  
Years ago

Very anti-climatic but the most logical result.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Cotton deserved it, what a remarkable series for him

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Curtley  
Years ago

Anyone know what Rule 34 of the NBL Operations Manual says?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

>Anyone know what Rule 34 of the NBL Operations Manual says?

If it exists, there's porn of it

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Perthworld  
Years ago

Wonder what happens to punters who put money on Sydney.

They lose because the bet was a losing one. Perth have been settled as winners already on some books.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

You would have to go back to 1981 for a previous asterix type season.
Launceston won as St Kilda participated in world club championship instead of NBL finals.

Still congrats to Perth and Bryce Cotton.

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Judge  
Years ago

Does this move Gleeson into the title of greatest Perth coach ever? His record is phenomenal especially given the fallout with Nielsen and Forde too.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

I would have been cool either way, I'm mostly glad that Cotton gets his GF MVP award.

If everything had gone by the book and the series had been canned with us at 2-1, I think no champion would have been the better outcome (which I have said here previously), but due to the way Smith and the Kings have tried to weasel their way through the past week, I'm a lot less reluctant to accept the Cats as champs.

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twenty four  
Years ago

Why is a French comic book being mentioned in here?

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LV  
Years ago

Initially I said the only fair outcome was a shared/drawn/no outcome- something equal

After reconsidering, I'm now sitting on the fence on this one. I don't have a strong opinion either way anymore.

Congrats Perth- the benchmark of the NBL.

Cotton well deserved GF MVP. I wouldn't have minded them awarding him even without awarding a champion, since he was by so far and away the best player it wasn't even a discussion.

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ME (he/kangaroo)  
Years ago

Logic prevails. Perth were the far superior team in the playoffs and finals, Sydney chose to withdraw. Any other outcome would have been a farce. NBL consulted legal teams and others to come to this decision so it's probably less to do with what they "want" to do but what they "have" to do in this case.

Either way, for what it was there was some great basketball played in the playoffs and the finals. Put an asterisk next to the championship but we wont soon forget everything that surrounded it. An extraordinary set of circumstances for sure. If nothing else, I think the virus will make us all appreciate the glory of normality. Just finishing a series of basketball games as planned seems like a luxury of a bygone era right now. When we return to that normality we will appreciate it much more.

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D2.0  
Years ago

Hmmm,
A lot could be said about how we finally got it here, but that would be ungracious at this point, so I'll just say a fan's thankyou, and congratulations to the Cats.

Virus and empty stadiums not withstanding, its been a cracker of a finals. Semi's were awesome, and looked like they could have gone either way.

And The GF was incredible. Winning a 3 game series, by winning both away games, that's pretty special.

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D2.0  
Years ago

Oh, and congrats to Bryce Cotton. What a season he's had.
Father, MVP, and finals MVP. Hopefully he can top that off with citizenship and stay around for a long time to come.

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Gus3232  
Years ago

Judge - Gleeson moved into the #1 slot for Perth coaches several years ago. Just using the simple criteria of being the only coach to win more than one title with Perth would do it, but he has brought a lot of stuff to the table.

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Perthworld  
Years ago

Why is a French comic book being mentioned in here?

I'm glad I'm not the only one to notice this - it's weird, right? At the same time what disturbs me even more about it is the distinct lack of love on here for a certain Belgian comic book.

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Watto  
Years ago

Rule 34 - If in doubt, give the rings to the Wildcats!

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Luuuc  
Years ago

I notice the Cats have put little gold asterisks above the word champions on their merch just to keep everyone happy ;)

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Perthworld  
Years ago

Winning a 3 game series, by winning both away games, that's pretty special.

What an extraordinary achievement. It's the first time in NBL GF series history this has happened (excluding series that played all of its games (1996 MEL v SEM) at the same venue). History!

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twenty four  
Years ago

Not really sure about this one. It would be interesting to read the Operations Manual, maybe that has a clear answer, but it doesn't feel right.

And any 'forfeit' claims are just stupid, even if being down in the series was on the mind of the Kings. If players weren't comfortable with the idea of having to play/travel/stay in the country for even a few more days or just didn't think it was worth it, that shouldn't be viewed negatively at a time like this.

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Perthworld  
Years ago

The Kings decided to walk away from the series - the league had not cancelled it yet at that stage. They forfeited and Wildcats won on a walkover. It's pretty simple really.

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Zodiac  
Years ago

Congrats Perth the right outcome and good to see SBS Viceland are replaying the SF and GF games next week.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I have absolutely no love for Perth, I actually get pissed off at their success but it is the correct decision.

I take my hat to the nbl, excellent press conference and Jeremy and Larry spoke superbly, we are very lucky to have them running the league, from the shambles it was to what we have today.

Onwards and upwards for basketball and nbl.

Congratulations Perth and Bryce.

Commiserations Sydney.

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Lovebroker  
Years ago

The Kings didn't forfeit.

The series was cancelled at Game 4 due to uncontrollable events.

The series completed at Game 3.

The rest is just logical.

Thank you Kings for blocking every option provided by the NBL, this was going to be a great series, but you guys help ruin it for everyone.

But hey...like Paul Smith says you are the most consistent team in NBL history. You shatter even when stacked. Congrats.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Perth was the b tree team over the three gam s played. I'm a bullets fan so I’m not biased.

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Perthworld  
Years ago

See, even the neutrals agree.

*group hug*

Oh wait scratch the hugging bit. My bad.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Would Sydney still want to play if they won Game 3??? asking for a friend

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Senator11  
Years ago

Most surprisingly the NBL came to a logical and competent decision...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

"The Kings didn't forfeit.

The series was cancelled at Game 4 due to uncontrollable events."

They did. They refused to play. Maybe forfeit isn't the right word in the professional environment - "abandonment" is what JL said in the presser.

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Lovebroker  
Years ago

If you insist on the angle of forfeiting the Kings will use Corona as their defence.

All we need to say was it was completed earlier than planned (I'm all for an asterisk) and there was a clear 2-1 winner.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

If there is a 2020-2021 season and the Wildcats manage to win again it would be a 3 peat as controversial as the Gorjian spend until you fold Kings ;P

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Trevor Torrance  
Years ago

Question- Why is Cotton saying on his IG story- Congrats to Rhy Vague on his 4th Champion and "I'm never gunna catch him!- We know Rhy will prob go elsewhere next season and Cotton has a chance to win 3-4 more rings in the next few years (if he sticks around!!!). hmmmmm

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Like I said, JL was pretty clearly talking about abandonment and the rules sourrounding it in the press conference. If it was just called off due to outside factors or force majeure then I would think the decision would have been different.

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rjd  
Years ago

Another neutral here that thinks this was clearly the only sensible decision *at this stage*.

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*TimberBall*  
Years ago

Right decision was made, bad luck Kings historic season and deserved to be able to play out the series, but that was your call to make. Can't wait for 20/21.

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Judge  
Years ago

Maybe the Cats can get their own court decal next year of "Title Town" with a nice big X in it. Meanwhile the Kings should be permanently removing that Hoops Capital crap off theirs

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Hopefully the banner is unveiled and rings received against Bogut, Ware and Sydney

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Lovebroker  
Years ago

And the Kings will duly handover the Game 3 ball plus the Qudos nets?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Well said #880

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Anonymous  
Years ago

#880 just showed what happens when you google fiba headquarters

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Anon  
Years ago

Strong Hint from Cotton that he will be an Aussie soon?

https://www.instagram.com/p/B95Zbg-j5K5/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

Offseason is here but the work is far from over... stay tuned.. I have something exciting for y'all on the way!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

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Anonymous  
Years ago

"Most surprisingly the NBL came to a logical and competent decision"

why is it a surprise? the NBL have been doing a great job for a few years now

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Perthworld  
Years ago

Maybe the Cats can get their own court decal next year of "Title Town" with a nice big X in it. Meanwhile the Kings should be permanently removing that Hoops Capital crap off theirs

Hopefully the banner is unveiled and rings received against Bogut, Ware and Sydney

And the Kings will duly handover the Game 3 ball plus the Qudos nets?

I can't wait for next season with this exciting to do list!

Wildcats@Kings should be the season opener where we cut down their nets before new ones are fitted in for the commencement of 2020-21.

Alternatively because Paul Smith will cry about the above whenever Kings@Wildcats is first played delay ring ceremony until then along with our new on-court decal and cutting down of own nets in lieu of missing out on theirs.

Any other ideas?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Are there any Perth supporters that have any humility, the right decision was made but for f..k sake be humble. Re Smith, it's fine for Perth to have a good solid financial base but as soon as Sydney get one you are all whining. We need more owners like Smith in the league.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Man Perthworld knows it all. My current bet365 for the Kings to win is still active.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Enjoy the hollow * victory. No one else cares.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Not sure how anyone can see the 3 three games and based on the play not judge Perth the better team and deserved winners. They outplayed the kings over the three games and didn't forfeit.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

"Man Perthworld knows it all. My current bet365 for the Kings to win is still active."

Yeah you sure showed him! You're definitely going to make a packet on that bet!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

No cares Sydney got a strong financial base (although with the amount of money they'll lose, that remains to be seen), but they do care that the continued antics of the Kings owner makes himself and the league look stupid. He's a sore loser and goes on the attack every time he loses.

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D2.0  
Years ago

Re Smith, it's fine for Perth to have a good solid financial base but as soon as Sydney get one you are all whining. We need more owners like Smith in the league.

What? You think we need more classless, loudmouth dickheads?

Well Bogut already has a part ownership of the Kings, so their future looks set.

I hear Joey Wright is looking for a gig, maybe he could buy the Bullets?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Great duty of care by kings brass. They didn't want Casper Ware hitting the side of the backboard and missing anymore wide open layups. Very classy looking after your top paid employee like that. Tip my hat to you.

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Years ago

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Let the sooks moan about the asterix win.
As a Perth fan I have tried to be humble knowing this was not a typical grand final win.

But with Paul Smith, Bogut and some Sydney fanboys what the he'll I'm going to party tonight #10titlesbaby.
Drink responsibly, drink corona.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

*hell.
Pardon the asterix.

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K4L  
Years ago

Wildcats whipped the Kings in the regular season, and again in the finals. Well done Perth Champions again.

What is the Kings' war cry next year? Go hard or go to Sydney? The Violet Crumbles? The Sydney Queens?

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Lovebroker  
Years ago

Re Smith, it's fine for Perth to have a good solid financial base but as soon as Sydney get one you are all whining.


You are sadly in need of some comprehension lessons if you think people (Perth and other supporters included) are having a go at Paul Smith because he is a rich owner propping up the Kings.

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Senator11  
Years ago

Bryce being interviewed this morning on Nova after 8am WA, I'm sure they will ask him about his citizenship.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

i am a Kings supporter, BUT PERTH ARE THE CHAMPIONS!

PERTH led 2/1 in the series , and The Kings decided not to come out for game 4!!!

Season games do not count. Minor premiers are NOT always championship winners.

PERTH were the BEST in the FINALS which is where the championship is decided.

WELL DONE PERF

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Anonymous  
Years ago

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Anonymous  
Years ago

This is what happens when half your team is full of senior citizens you need a week to recover from the game they couldn't play any earlier than Friday

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Cornholio  
Years ago

Congratulations on the title Perth Wildcats.

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D2.0  
Years ago

And it has to be said, that whilst it wasn't quite as expected, the final result was what we have been talking about all season with the Kings.

To their credit, they held onto top spot all season, and yes that has never been done before. But as we predicted, they weren't looking good towards the end.

Weaver had a stacked team, and did well, but when things got tough he was found out. Gleeson whinges too much on the sidelines, and needs to upsize his polo, but damn he can coach.

Bogut when healthy would still be the best player in the country, but he hasn't been 100% for a while. He was always going to struggle to consistently play starters minutes, and they don't have an effective backup. Hunter barely saw the court, and Elbows is a completely different style of player. Makes it hard when you're running two completely different systems, dependent on whether he's on the court.

To their credit, with guys like Bruce, Cooks, and Didi, they assembled admirable depth, but you can't disguise that Newley and Lisch's best days are behind them.

And whilst it may not have been pretty, and some guys still struggled, collectively Perth DID lift for the GF series.

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