It's exactly what I’m hearing, nbl to pay his wage. Is it bull shit, we will find out Monday.

i was thinking that yesterday one of the owners of the hawks ownered the kings when BG was there

It has been an ownerous task trying to get Goorj back to the NBL but it might have finally succeeded

The Hawks have that much money? I call BS.

So how does Covid make Goorj Cheaper? Never heard so much BS. You sprout so much BS.

Gorge is a great coach, but when kings were threepeating the kings crowds were woeful. What he's going to bring is good culture and yes I’ve also heard that the nbl have 51% of the licence, so turn up hawks fans or it’s going elsewhere.

LK now
50% Brisbane
25% Melbourne
51% hawks
Question re Adelaide %, if all above is true no wonder the players had to take massive pay cuts. Covid 19 sure has put a damper on the nbl.

LK doesn't own any percentage of Brisbane. Kevin Martin and his group own 100%.

But he owns part of Adelaide, something some of their 'angry' fans should remember before lambasting other clubs.

Didn't Martin only by 50% with the chance of purchasing the rest and hasn’t so far. Nbl like the Australian government, everything is partly secret.

Kevin Martin is no longer involved in Brisbane

Isaac unfortunately just another troll of KR #871

I know that BG is on good US$ and is unaffected by Covid. He is also in the last year of his contract afaik which may be good timing. I would prefer to hear it from Goorj rather than simple gussing here. Equally his S&F advisor (Pop) is now back in Oz which may also have someting to do with it? Unfortunately the trolls come out with the anonymous nck instead of using their Perthworld login.

What's Perthworld got to do with it? Koberulz suggested Goorj may be cheaper, some idiot said KR sprouts BS without actually stopping to think about it, and now you decide to blame Perthworld??

If he comes back will be interesting to see what sought of team they put together but please remember,every club he was at here in Australia may have won achampionship but they also went broke.

In an era when just about every club went broke

Pertworld is the anonymous person who attacks everyone rather than use his true "identity"

The old Murphy about Gooey sending clubs broke... So tiring and incorrect.

The anon stalker is not Perthworld.

If the nbl are picking up his pay packet, no problem for the hawks being able to afford him.

"I know that BG is on good US$ and is unaffected by Covid."

Pretty sure if you reside in China, COVID will have an effect on your everyday life.

He is also in the last year of his contract afaik which may be good timing."

Good timing in that he would leave after the virus is hopefully contained, rather than before? Good call.

Not sure what the obsession is with Perthworld or Koberulz. Neither are significant.
If it keeps the stalker happy then so be it.

Usernames are overrated and meaningless anyway.
It's not like anyone other than Isaac or other moderators know who "Perthworld ", "Zodiac" and others are.

They still aren't going to make playoffs.

So the teams Board allows Goorj to overspnd and it's Goorj's fault? Which team did this alst happen with? PLease let us know.

Goorjian is a gun! Be great to have him back in the NBL

So Larry now owns:
Melb
Bris
Tassie
"Hawks"

And potentially Cairns.

What a league!

Speculative it is but no smoke without fire, lot of these rumours start at the source and travel by word of mouth in secrecy till someone spills the beans.

I am sure I read here that the new "owners" had a 25% stake only in the Hawks with Kestleman owning the rest? Is that true?

Sorry I must have posted at the time the 2nd last post was posted. So the reality is that the Hawks have token owners. So much for all the hype. I had posted previously that LK had investors that wanted at least 50 ownership. Wonder why that fell through.

Yeah sorry KR there are people that do know stuff and post it. We all can't be right like you.

hey ... at #808976

was your sauce the same one that told you the ball train was coming to town repeatedly over the last couple of months?

Clearly the Ball group was on the outside despite all the press that it was essentially a done deal. TFG it wasn't. Why question the person posting their views? Why should you care?

No ones sideline behavior worse than Trev

# 976 is spot on the money.
The information is coming out from people who worked for the old organisation. LK owns more teams and I for one hope he successful but it still amazes me that the players had to take pay cuts while he's funding clubs when there are buyers will to invest.

"If not for him the game in Australia would be a basket case.." It still is. No announcement on the commencement of this season's start date. Now we have the Hawks still owned by Kestleman. What's the point in owning almost all of the teams in your own league? Cairns will be under the pump with no tourism and the debacle of the rebuild where they play.
Hell he's meant to start / buy another team for Tassie. He's being sued by people that wanted to buy an apartment in South Yarra that was worth something and now he's suing those same people. A basketcase all round.

And the Boomers coach is?

025 you are clearly a clueless human who has a grudge. If you don't like NBL or LK (which is obvious) then just leave. Do us all a favour. Without LK the NBL would have been SEABL level 6 years ago

"Without LK the NBL would have been SEABL level 6 years ago" Maybe but with him no in charge it's a Titanic slowly sinking. SEABL was dropped by BA they were happy to take all the seabl clubs money and then dump them after a few seasons. But I guess you don't know that either. BA does sfa and doesn't do it very well.
I could go on but what's the point. As soon as someone posts a different opion than what the great unwashed think you get slammed.

We all agree or a large majority of us agree LK has been very good for the nbl, but the wheels are looking shaky, partly because covoid 19. Owning so many teams doesn't seem healthy for the league either.

#055, it might have something to do with the way you express your opinion.

LK has made an announcement for when the season will start. It will be after the AFL and NRL finish. There is still a lot of things that need to happen in the meantime, and it can't be guaranteed that it won't be pushed back further, but at this stage I don't know what else you want him to say.

It's not really a league when one bloke owns the actual league and half the teams!

Word is non owned teams very concerned and want deadline on league divestment or we might see a split/second league

^ OMG funniest thing I've ever read...split/second league. I’ll have a serve of what #809062 is having. It’s clearly good stuff!!

The actual league is owned by 1 bloke who then owns/runs hand the teams in the league.

It opens up the league clearly to all sorts of allegations and issues most of which i'm sure are unfounded.

You think the other 4 owners want to be controlled and pay against a team thats all owned by the same person?

So how is this 2nd league going to work with no money and maybe 3 teams? Where is this word coming from?

The other 4 owners can go play where? No one else is putting up a league that they can play in and make money or probably even survive for that matter. Such a bonehead claim, split/second league. Just fantasy. Are you sure your name isn't Donald Trump with rubbish like that?

Considering three of the top four teams from last season were non-LK teams, I don't think its much of an issue for them.

Integrity is everything in sport or do we accept that the NBL basically WWE?

Wow another thread riddled with ramble.

As the NBL is aligned with FIBA, BA and betting agencies I think you will find that box is ticked well and truly. Integrity in sport covers that. There is a reason you can't bet on the WWE. But you keep trotting out that notion.

Has it been announced officially?

Can always join an Asian based league , Perth have had that before them a few times in the past.

Just like the NBL domiciled itself in Singapore for a period , no reason for an Australian team to reverse that.

Yeah because Singapore was such a sustainable option. Add to the fact no one is going to want to fly in and out of Asia anytime in the next few years. But again dreams are free. I look forward to the press release that Perth are leaving the NBL to play in the Asean league. OMG comedy gold.

I stand corrected. But if you bet on something with a prearranged outcome you get what you deserve

Unfortunately you are not privy to that arranged outcome. At least sport has the uncertainty of outcome. Just look at Carlton v Geelong from the weekend.

My side is not with the clown that suggests a split league. I'm just saying WWE is rigged prior to the match. The clown was inferring (not to subtly) that the NBL was similar. With all the cheque’s and balances it’s as good as impossible

The outcome of WWE is pre-determined. The parties (wrestlers involved) know who is going to win. The odds don't matter, the pool of money doesn’t matter, the outcome has already been determined. It’s fixed. Every sporting league strives for a competitive league so the uncertainty of outcome is important. No one wants to go and watch a team lose by massive margins every game. Hence why very poor teams get poor attendance especially on the road. And from there generally fold.

In Australia you can't fix a contest that is being gambled upon.

Thus if LK was rigging the league that's a crime. Unlikely to be happening is the point

He's got varying percentages in United, Brisbane, Hawks and soon to be Tasmania, that’s a fair bit of ownership in what will be a ten team comp. Adelaide is still a question, hopefully Sydney, Perth, SEM, NZ and Cairns are all not getting held up by him.

Monday nothing happened yet

Betting on normal sports, you at least have a chance to win as you can study the form and make your own educated guess, and you assume both teams are playing to win. Wrestling is a scripted outcome, so even if you know that a disabled midget is no match for Hulk Hogan, you're still at the mercy of the WWE not scripting it otherwise.

I explained what the difference was.

KR I do not know of any other sport where the outcome is agreed upon prior to the commencement of the event. This is not sport, this is scripted theatrical entertainment. Yes the general public do not know who the winner will be but that isn't the point of the discussion. If the AFL or the NRL arranged for an outcome it would be illegal, match fixing no less. Which again is illegal. And if the the NBL wanted to fix something from within they would need several moving parts all in tow and all those people would also be committing a criminal offence. The anon above compared or made an inference that the NBL was basically the WWE.

("Integrity is everything in sport or do we accept that the NBL basically WWE?)

Add Phoenix to the LK group of ownership. Try and keep up Dazz. It's reported the new sock puppet owners of the Hawks only own 25%.

felix von hofe the bullshti artist on his twitter

someone said that the mercury reported Ball bought the team to

Cool to get a great respected coach. He has some recruiting to do. No point being a great coach with no cattle

Now official.

LK will need to open the wallet to recruit otherwise they'll stink regardless of what Goorj can do on the sidelines.

LK gonna need to open the wallet x 4 thou!

MM confirmed on FB.

LK isn't the owner

LK is the owner, unless you think owning 75% is not owning the team.

It's time to let go of the LK hate, it will only destroy you.

Will gorg bring back some of his ex players as assistants, there a few good ones. Lisch is also available. Coaching out of the snake pit will be very similar to coaching out of commets in the old days.

No hate for LK, I have admiration but that doesn't stop me saying he owns a heap of the league for which I’m not certain is healthy. The players wage cuts across the board have probably kept the hawks afloat .

For someone who has admiration for the dude you only seem to post negativity

What if he's right?

How are you going to confirm wild speculation like that? It's like the persistent "How much money does player X earn". No one knows. But i'd highly doubt he has a thumb in every pie nor to the level being thrown around with zero justification

Let's do this again for the doubters.
United, Phoenix, Brisbane, Hawks, and potentaially a Tassie side.
Cairns are on the edge of going broke. NZ has been a basketcase since new owners. Perth will spend at all costs t win and there is talk of Adel being an LK connection. get it?
He owns the NBL has no Board to answer to and when he want's to drop it all everyone will be going WTF. Plus you would expect his business is going poorly. People are suing him and he is suing others and them. Not good by any accounts.

No.

You can have admiration but you don't have to swallow the bath water. I think he’s done fine but there are holes in that he’s got a stake in what is 50% off the teams.
IMO that’s why it took so long to get the hawks franchise confirmed and a reason the players wages were cut before covid had even really begun. Take the money from John to pay Paul.
I still think the nbl is a lot better because of him but it would be nice to see more individual owners.

Forgive me if I do not put too much weight in an anon telling me he has a stake in 5 teams on an internet forum. It's pure speculation. Nor do I care he is being sued because people overcapitalised and then COVID-19 hit. The league also knew that they wont be playing in front of full crowds this season. The only way clubs make money is bums on seats and hospitality. Neither will be at capacity. Hence the reduction in wages. Simple business 101.

I actually never mentioned anything about getting sued. I'll bow to your great knowledge on everything by the looks and hope you are right.

"He owns the NBL has no Board to answer to and when he want's to drop it all everyone will be going WTF."

Some idiot used to say the same thing about Jack Bendat. Year after year, you'd hear doomsday stuff about Bendat pulling the pin and leaving the Cats in the shit. 10+ years later and it still hasn't happened. Maybe wait until there is strong suggestion he's ready to drop it instead of just wondering what if...

#781
People are suing him and he is suing others and them. Not good by any accounts.

Looks like you did

LoveBroker, you ask 'Would a big name like Ingles, Broekoff, or Landale be possible?'

Broekhoff or Landale maybe, but you realise Ingles has two more years and $24mil USD still on his contract?

Who is suing who, and why?

Last I heard was Billy T was in China, his son Nate might be a chance, he had good game in site and was also in China. Have not heard anything of late.

Tomlinson? lol they just scored the GOAT and you want to balance it out by giving them the WOAT?

Last I heard BT was very happy with his China job. Nate Tomlinson is back working with his old school in Colorado. #CUBuffs

"Who is suing who, and why?" Try doing some research eh

Why don't you just tell us?

Tomlinson worked very well with the gorge for a very long time with great results, I would not bag him so easily.

"Why don't you just tell us?"

OK.





































Nah

Ok so you're making stuff up then. Cool.

Try doing some research eh

Will he bring his water boy?