Anonymous
Earlier this year

Covid-19 no worse than flu, a product of government: Creek

Mitch Creek has posted on his social media questioning whether we would know there was a pandemic if government and media weren't making a big deal out if.

https://twitter.com/stevesmithffx/status/1284677974470488065?s=19

I don't agree with his opinion and after asking others to take his driving demerit points for him I'm coming to the conclusion that he isn't too smart.

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Isaac  
Earlier this year

Supposedly also Creek from a screenshot in the replies: "If you get a flu shot you're an idiot".

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Train  
Earlier this year

His argument is ridiculously floored.

Firstly he is comparing Covid-19 cases to 2019 flu cases where there was no social distancing, bio-security measures and increase to hygiene. Not only that but he is comparing Covid cases against one of the worse flu seasons in recent times.

Secondly, the statistics he provide actually showed that Covid-19 had a higher fatality rate. The guy is an idiot.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Good to great nbl player but oh my, not lot going on up stairs.

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LoveBroker  
Earlier this year

ridiculously floored


Ummmm...OK.

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Train  
Earlier this year

@lovebroker - I meant flawed. C'mon man.

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D2.0  
Earlier this year

Nah, you were right, I too was floored by his stupidity.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Didn't he just share a picture of some stats with a one word caption saying "interesting"?

The vaccination stuff was leaked private messages. Bit harsh criticising a bloke about his medical beliefs made in private irrespective of the arguments for and against.

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Webcam Luke  
Earlier this year

If you have been following Creek's Instagram for awhile, you'll notice he is constantly getting his motorbike stolen and circulating Covid-conspiracy propaganda.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I think it's a reasonable point by Mitch though.

It's proportionality that's the issue with Covid. Is our response to this proportionate to what's really going on? It's interesting how a country like Sweden has been criticized for their response, but maybe they're the only country acting rationally and with anything resembling intelligence. I don't know?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Sweden didn't do a great job with COVID

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

He is easily influenced by those around him

https://www.instagram.com/p/CBFRKdujZ7Y/?hl=en

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

The death rate in Sweden is far higher per head of people than countries that implemented lock down or partial lock downs. Swedes are now starting to complain about the government policy.
The USA is the best example when you do minimum what happens to society.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Many basketball players have a career or something else lined up after basketball.
What will Creek do? Appears to have a low IQ.

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Hanging Round  
Earlier this year

Creek appear to have had some brains snipped with some of his hair cuts.
Like the idiots who don't want their kids immunised because they won't catch diseases if everybody else has had a needle.
What happens when the kid meets up with a friend or relative who has been or met with somebody with disease from overseas??
No needle, no play

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Great opportunity for SEM to grow their supporters base and become the team for antivax and conspiracy theories morons. Quite a few of these people unfortunately

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Zodiac  
Earlier this year

I'll defend him in regards to the disgraceful act the Sixers owner did to him but in fairness Creek has never been the sharpest tool in the shed and has said and done some stupid shit over the years.

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Sourbroker  
Earlier this year

Wasn't it only last week that everyone was calling for the sniping and immaturity to stop in regards to Lovebroker? Classic stuff.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Why isn't it true? I'm with him from day dot, it's a agenda which we will never know. Unfortunately people believe everything because a doctor, scientist all media and know government have control and do what they want.

Maybe people have a less of an iq than creek? If you don't know other than what you have been told you have no right in saying something about someone that has an opinion that you don't agree with.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Would be a small percentage of the population that have a lower IQ than Creek.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Yes, how silly of us to be believing doctors and scientists. Instead we should be listening to reality tv chefs.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

"Wasn't it only last week that everyone was calling for the sniping and immaturity to stop in regards to Lovebroker? Classic stuff."

Yeah. Whats your point?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

A plastic wrap short of a six pack.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Actually you are bit silly listening to doctors ect find out who they are working for and who pays them. it's cases instead of death's to keep everyone thinking how bad it is.

If it was so deadly, why has places like bunnings open throughout the pandemic? Can't find out how many people attend icu through winter season young and old.

It's unfortunate people pass away but since covid 19 here in march 1000 have died of suicide but never mentioned by a doctor or media.

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LoveBroker  
Earlier this year

Unfortunately people believe everything because a doctor, scientist all media and know government have control and do what they want.


Yeah all those idiots who :
- Took advice to eat fruits and vegetables to prevent Scurvy.
- Decided to try this snake oil they cvall anti-biotics for infections.
- Took candy looking things to prevent unwanted pregnancies.
- Poke themselves needlessly to make sure they have this liquid looking thing called Insulin .

Screw listening to doctors and scientists, I only need listen to Trump and Supporters.

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Maxymoo  
Earlier this year

Sweden has recorded more than 5600+ deaths. Australia has recorded 123.

Sweden has 10 mill - we have 25 mil.

Let's not pretend that’s a success story.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I'll think you'll find that there has been a lot of awareness brought to mental health and suicides, agreed not as much as covid, but it certainly has been raised especially when well known people open up about it and tragically when they pass away.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Firstly, can we get a source on the 1000 suicides due to covid?

And if it is true, it's definitely also tragic but suicide isnt contagious, and the whole reason we've gone into lock down is because the spread of covid and the death rates are higher than what any country is prepared for.

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Anon  
Earlier this year

I read his social media post, and immediately unfollowed him. He's supposed to be a leader. Hard enough to get kids to take this seriously without "influencers" like him posting. He should apologise. Really strange, as he holds himself out as someone with a social conscious. This just ain’t the flu, in fact nothing like it in terms of its virulence, it’s seriousness and it’s long-term effects. But then again, never really sought medical advice from a baller. Stick to posting bball shots and tattoos.

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Zodiac  
Earlier this year

Not sure he should have to apologise, plenty of people publicly admit to believing in magic sky fairies and we don't lock them in up in padded rooms.

Creek's a knucklehead always has been what's he a leader of? Deciphering demerit points? AFL talent evaluation? Flexing pics? Come on.

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Anon  
Earlier this year

Kids do see him as a leader and someone to look up to. SEM would also see him as a leader. If an AFL footballer were to post that crap, they would be shut down by their club. SEM? NBL? Nope.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I agree he's entitled to his opinion.

I just find it interesting that (in my opinion), there seems to be a trend of his words not being well thought out, yet he's seen as one of the best leaders/culture builders in Australian basketball (at least that's what NBL overtime and Will Weaver tell us).

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HD  
Earlier this year

he does do some good things for the community, but he just needs to think before posting and keep in his lane. He doesn't need to have a view in everything.

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Zodiac  
Earlier this year

Maybe some parenting of said kids wouldn't go astray instead? These guys are young men some need to take their socks off to count past ten, just a fact of life.

I have no doubt he would be heavily censured in the AFL which says more about the AFL than anything else. This is after all a league that has a multi-billion dollar TV contract thanks to the ad buying power of billion dollar betting agencies who make most of their money from problem gamblers.

The same AFL that comes down hard on players betting on games yet itself relies heavily on the continued exploitation of problem gamblers.

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HD  
Earlier this year

Nice deflection.

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Coachgirl  
Earlier this year

I hate giving this sort of misinformation any oxygen, but I know people are dying because of misinformation and mistrust in authority. The suicide statistics are an estimate, these are not available in real time and it is not possible for anyone to make assurances about this. It is clear that risk of suicide increases with unemployment and other stresses, so it is not unreasonable to think that there will be an increase. There is also an increase in help available, so people should contact Lifeline or similar if they need help.

Also, unless you are familiar with the damage that this virus is doing to the lungs of some survivors, you could fall into the "not many people have died here, so its not a problem camp". This virus is new, there is still so much to learn about how to treat it or manage adverse effects, but the one thing we do know is how to avoid it. Listening to people who are trying to keep you alive is always better than those who get their medical information from Facebook or celebrity chefs.

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Mock  
Earlier this year

Good to confirm Creek is a MORON.

Love Broker makes some good points above though.

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HD  
Earlier this year

Well said.

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PlaymakerMo  
Earlier this year

"I think it's a reasonable point by Mitch though."

No, it's not...

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Thinking Mitch and Zodiac have similar IQ.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I wonder if his ex teammate K A Towns shares the same belief?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

It's like creek kneeling attending a BLM protest but it French using the N word in games to address opposition players

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

This is why pro sports players should shut up and dribble 99% of them are dumber than a flaming bag of dog sh*t

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Oh dear. It seems the ink on Mitch's leg has infected his brain.

What an absolute turkey.

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Mobbin  
Earlier this year

Even if the cases & deaths are over reported, I'd rather not go to the pub for a few months so we can have the grandparents around for the kids

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Here's a long list that backs up what I think Creek is expressing his opinion about, unfortunately most people only believe the MSM headlines which try to keep people in a state of fear rather than actually looking a little deeper and making theirnown mind up.

https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/

I agree with him to a degree, just wouldn't go about it the way he does especially in his position.

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Isaac  
Earlier this year

'415 - forget the MSM. The government, relying on expert panels (medicos/scientists/economists/etc), is projecting similar information and caution in Australia. A government in power can stand to benefit from a well-handled crisis, sure, but a political party fancying itself as one of sound financial judgement would not be shutting down enterprise without very good reason. And for the most part, the actions have bi-partisan support. Half the media is forever jockeying to open up, drive down use of masks, etc.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

SEM should say something, or ask Mitch to say something. He's put something out there without thinking. Just needs to be retracted and dealt with. But remember, the guy does a lot of good things and is always focussed on helping others. Just said a dumb thing.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

unfortunately most people only believe the MSM

Unfortunately people think watching some nutcase rant on about some conspiracy shit on YouTube is research.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

#420 to right.
Only have to watch what's happening in the US to see how dumb people are.

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

That's a good point - those are two separate groups but both still sheep.

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NSA  
Earlier this year

Daniel Andrews might use this as part of his daily presser tomorrow to highlight some of the misinformation out there, a bit like the lady from Brighton.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Listening to Creek on intellectual subjects is like asking Stephen Hawking for dancing lessons.
At some stage I can see him winning a Darwin award.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Anon 415 you have posted that Swiss crap before. It's rubbish

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KET  
Earlier this year

Australia is a world leader in health science and has been for a long time, particularly respiratory. Don't need to be looking elsewhere to try and find some advice.

People who compare the flu and Covid don’t understand COVID. It’s not the same, the damage it does is substantially worse, the rate of infections is substantially worse and the way in which it is asymptotic in so many people is a massive cause for concern because that makes it all the harder to trace and all the more contagious and likely to reach those vulnerable.

When so many vulnerable are at risk it paralyses society and your economy, whether you are NZ trying to eliminate, Sweden who doesn’t or US who are trying to be as useless as possible.

And yes, Creek doing or saying dumb shit is pretty standard these days isn’t it? Classic Creeky, love the numbnut.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

It's not rubbish, I lists all the official studies by governments and health agencies all over the world, good and bad, showing every factor of covid.

I'm not telling people to believe Creek, but I wish everyone would read deeper into the facts rather than just the front page of the paper.

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Yeah  
Earlier this year

Mitch Creek everyone. From the armpit of the country known as Horsham, spreading his High IQ belief's with a gem like "covid no worse than a flu." Yeah... until his mother gets it or grandmother or Aunt with a heart condition.

Numpty should delete social media now.

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KET  
Earlier this year

Don't really know why you’d bother to read that.

Is it to try and find things that support your view so you can try to argue it to others? Because most people would realise you’re doing that and straight up won’t be convinced because there is nothing credible about it.

Is it part of you trying to convince yourself that you’re capable of understanding an area of science and be in a position "call out" others without the experience, knowledge and intelligence of those who actually have an expertise in the field?

It’s the classic conspiratorial behaviour and it wreaks of someone who failed year 10 science and reckons they’ve cracked the Davinci code, while the rest of us are sharing the posts over Facebook with the word “nuffy” plastered everywhere.

Will go with the experts, thanks.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Cuckoo. That is all.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Consensus from medical experts and government healh agencies all over the world is that about 0.2% of people with Covid will die, and on average 0.1% of people with the flu will die, but that goes up to 0.2% in a bad season.

Covid spreads easier than the flu because there are so many mild cases who spread without knowing making it more dangerous for the vulnerable population, but the virus itself is actually less dangerous for the young and healthy, you can't catch the flu and not know about it, and kids die more regularly with the flu so factor that in too.

So my opinion after weighing things is that covid is probably 2 or 3 times worse than a bad seasonal flu, but the response has caused so much more damage than was needed, and there are hidden agendas who are set to benefit from this response.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Not sure an epidemiologist is spending their time on a basketball post just now. So I think we can assume you're right KET.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

So it's not fake, and it's not caused by 5g, it's it shouldn't be taken lightly, it is a real problem, but when it's all over I think the analysis will be that we caused more long term damage than was needed.

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KET  
Earlier this year

Haha!

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

It is rubbish and was rebuked in other threads. Only difference in Australia than 3/4 of the world where it has been devastating is our health system is better and our overall living standards are better. (Housing density etc)

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Not sure which "experts" you're listening to KET.

That website is a compilation of every countries official health agency data and university studies as they've been trying to gather as much new info as possible, the only thing about it that sways to a particular side is that is links to some articles that aren't the same as the MSM.

I'm no expert, not many are, but numbers don't lie and I think if any reasonable person who cared to spend a few hours looking at the numbers which are progressively being compiled as the pandemic continues they may change their view. Considering the response by governments will be shaping our lives for many years to come I think the least people could do is look further to form their own opinion rather than just believe what their told by the news, and if you dig in deeper and think the government's response was necessary then that's ok, I just personally don't agree.

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Cornholio  
Earlier this year

Where is forum know all Koberulz

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I have a strange feeling that #449 is #55 for SEM! Looney Tunes stuff.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

What are the hidden agendas? Who is going to benefit from the response?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

That's a rabbit hole far too deep for this forum.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Wherenis Dr Kone. He knows it all.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I guess like most things with government and economics, follow the money, because whenever money is lost somewhere it is gained somewhere else.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Calling Dr Kobe.

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Richard Ked  
Earlier this year

When you find Dr Kone, please direct him my way. I need to relax.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Kobe knows how to make a vaccine, but he's too busy correcting people on an obscure basketball forum.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I disagree w Mitch's views.
I will argue he is entitled to his beliefs and views without the abuse he is copping by people who are just as bad as they claim him to be.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Creek has a position of influence. He doesn't need to make us aware day after day how dumb and ignorant he is. Not dissimilar to anti-vaxers. When you’re ignorant and uneducated just shut the hell up. The world is full of half-wits who think they are intellectual like this Swiss poster. Stay in your lane and let the people who aren’t 5 stubbies short of a 6 pack have a rational conversation.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Don't forget that he does a lot of really good stuff. Don’t be too harsh. Expect he’s learned a lesson from this.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

He has a dangerous opinion.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

There are plenty of experts who do stay in their lane who have differing opinions, it's a good idea to read both sides and decide for yourself where you sit, generally it ends up being in the middle, does that sound reasonable to you?

Maybe the "ignorant uneducated half-wits" are the ones who don't bother reading anything and just expect the people in charge to decide things for them.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

He is valid an opinion no matter how
Stupid.
Which in return receives mass rebuttal.
Unless you want
Communism?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

That's for you #470, you sound like a true Rhodes Scholar.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

"Maybe the "ignorant uneducated half-wits" are the ones who post here. Corrected for accuracy. Back on topic Creek is an olive short of a Greek Salad.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Can anyone point to him publicly saying its a hoax or just the flu?

The only reason this is being treated so severely by government is the lack of ICU beds that would be needed to treat it

Hunger is far more lethal globally but isn't hyped like this , nor is a long list of other health problems.

It is simply a position of a virus being able to break a health system and embarrass a government.


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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Since when was hunger a contagious disease? Such a simpleton

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Thunder Jam  
Earlier this year

Guess the earth is flat Mitch?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Creek also replied to a fan about a possible return to the Sixers: "I'd rather get COVID-19"

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Next thing it'll be the 5g!

ha ha dude is straight dumb as a post and if you've ever spoken to him its clear he is lucky that he can play ball or he'd be digging holes at best

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

classic Hoops pile on, attacking a guy for not fact checking without fact checking what he did or did not say publicly.

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CJ Barter  
Earlier this year

What a hot take.

An athlete who probably "TLDR"-ed everything throughout "school" - coz Basketball > Biology is dumb.

Mind blowing.

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Nathan of Perth  
Earlier this year

A plastic wrap and six tinnies short of a six-pack.

Decent player but brains of soft cheese.

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Tjamu  
Earlier this year

few people having a crack at him for attending a BLM protest.

Human rights are not a political or brownie point scoring situation. Dont cite that as something stupid, because marching for equality is always a winner and having dealt with MC personally, he damn well was not doing it to appeal to social media for some likes. He's long been an advocate for anti-racism and equality.

His opinion here may or may not be a winner, however the man is true to himself and what he believes in. The sentiment he has here is questionable, but isnt as farfetched as it seems. Personally i oppose his views on COVID but shit, dont just tear into him because the next person is. Doctors and scientists also havent spoken out about the cancerous toxic waste that red meat is, because theyre funded by people with interests in these areas, amongst other stuff but hey. They are always to be trusted right.

Dig at him if you have a valid opinion, otherwise youre no better than him

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Trev  
Earlier this year

Black lives matter protest has killed a few all lives matter believersin Melbourne that'sfor sure.

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FM  
Earlier this year

So the option of not going the College route makes complete sense. Ain't no ball if you can't school.

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Tjamu  
Earlier this year

FM, Creeky is a pedestrian in game shooter, (though lights out during work outs) and he made the NBA without being a shooter mate.

Plenty of ball if you cant shoot

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Creek has always been a loose cannon. No surprise.

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Webcam Luke  
Earlier this year

I hope Mitch Creek finds this thread.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Do NBL players read any of our shit?

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