PeterJohn
Earlier this year

Breakers 50-50 to relocate to Australia - Walsh

ESPN article with quotes from Matt Walsh. They quote him as saying "I think its 50-50 whether we're calling a city in Australia our home, or whether we load up with all our home games at the beginning or end of the season."

He's also quoted as saying the capacity exists to "push the season back all the way to a February start and still get a full season in."

Read the full article (it's short) at https://www.espn.com.au/nbl/story/_/id/29598657/nbl-2020-new-zealand-breakers-looking-australian-base-season

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

The cost will be the big issue but having hubs in Perth, NZ and Adelaide to start the season is possibly the only way forward to have games from December where fans can attend.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Have it clash with NBL1? Yeah, nah.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

One league is far more important than the other #277

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Anon  
Earlier this year

Would be good to have them based out of either the Gold Coast or Sunshine Coast, or somewhere primarily in QLD. Pretty sure there are adequate venues in Queensland able to facilitate and host NBL games. VIC, WA & SA teams in one conference, QLD, NSW & NZ teams in the other??

Or maybe have them based in QLD for the first part of the season, and the relocate back to NZ to finish the season off, or vice versa.

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Isaac  
Earlier this year

Who would've thought that the best chance of getting conferences in the NBL was a global health issue forcing clubs into bubbles.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Lol the Gold Coast? Can we stop with throwing them into the ring. They've shown they can't support any sort of team, let alone a non local team

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Curtley  
Earlier this year

This next season is about survival not trying to build. Whatever it takes should be done. The two Melbourne teams are more of a concern at this stage, could one play in Albury and one in Canberra? I think that's probably the best option.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

No chance of either of those Curtley

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

League won't be operating until mid 2021 at best more likely now 2022

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pls  
Earlier this year

Gold Coast is not a stupid suggestion for a short term fix.

Many Kiwis in the area. they might just get parochial.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

#302 you are just plain wrong

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AngusH  
Earlier this year

Tasmania for a year? Give Tasmania a taste of NBL before they get a team, and hey, it aint so different from South Island. ;)

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

"Would be good to have them based out of either the Gold Coast or Sunshine Coast"

Why would you base a hub in an area which doesn't have a team?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I think its 50-50 whether we're calling a city in Australia our home, or whether we load up with all our home games at the beginning or end of the season.
What EXACTLY is the issue in NZ?
Because I'm struggling to understand his suggestions.
He seems to be implying that the problem is travel, which is what I thought. Despite talk of an ANZ "bubble" I don't know if they have opened their borders.
So how would loading up with home games help? Opponents won't be able to get in.
Unless he's trying to suggest a hub, but then your home games are still limited to the teams in the hub

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Anon  
Earlier this year

#293 and #309, suggested both areas as they are in QLD and are not COVID Hotspots unlike NSW and VIC, considering the recent spike in cases in those states.

Tasmania would be a good option, as well as WA. I'm only suggesting these cities for the Breakers to based out of, not for an NBL 'bubble' to exist in.

Also having them based in areas which don't have teams might allow for easier/ priority access to decent venues for games.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Can't be anything in Tassie - there's no infrastructure there yet until that DEC is done up

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KET  
Earlier this year

At this rate you'd be wanting to front load home games to Adelaide, Perth, Brisbane and back load home games to Melbourne, SEM (hotspot), Sydney (hotspot), NZ (international), Cairns (Avoid playing too much out of Bunnings)

Is spending 1-2 months away Spurs Rodeo Trip style appropriate for an NBL length season?

December/Jan all games are in Adel/Per/Bris (a few in Cairns)
Feb-Mid March all games in Vic/NSW/NZ
Mid Mar-Mid April Standard H&A to allow teams to regather some normalcy
Mid April Finals

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Just not enough money in bball for any of this to happen(hubs,relocation etc.).
It's not AFL football and the only reason they are playing games is because of TV revenue. THE NBL doesn't have that luxury. Until the NBL is certain of full capacity crowds being allowed, they won't kick off. It's simple economics. Some clubs would go under (Adelaide anyone?)if they started paying players and got f'all bums on seats. I agree with #302 to an extent. May not be 2022 but it won't fire up until Covid restrictions no longer exist.

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Isaac  
Earlier this year

AUNZ bubble has been shelved for months at least.

So how would loading up with home games help? Opponents won't be able to get in.
Assuming he's not inventing ideas on the spot, athletes might be granted entry from a WA bubble (for example) to NZ. Australians returning from NZ would presumably not be subjected to isolation. The NZ athletes however might be subject to iso periods when coming in and out of the country. Just guessing.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

"One league is far more important than the other #277"
NO NBL no NBL1. You can't have both teams playing in the one season. WNBL is cancelled and right now the NBL is looking very unstable. Loeliger has said, no crowds no NBL. Victoria is a basket base and no other state will accept them in a hub.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

They will as essential and 14 days quarantine post Vic in Hub states like WA, SA & QLD. Just like the AFL. Please keep up. Other than NBL1 South every other Comp is state based. No travel. If NBL crosses over I to NBL1 who cares. Niche markets

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Mobbin  
Earlier this year

Rolling hubs for all teams seems logical... Prior to the season start date, everyone over to WA for two weeks quarantine in WA. Play a couple months of games at Bendat, Challenge or Perth Arena, stay at Joondalup Resort or Crown. Next couple months do it in SA (no idea if they have resorts or extra stadiums), then hopefully/if the east coast gets their sh!t together, have the back end the season over there or head over to NZ and then could have finals in Melb to help morale after losing AFL GF.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

So there's no AFL GF and you then expect to have the NBL GF in Melb? I think you are off your meds.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

There is no way any team is going to give up a finals game to be played in a Melbourne hub. That's the cream on the top for any teams revenue.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Yeah Perth would be broke.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Hubs = shit loads of $'s for accommodation. Hubs also = no home revenue for many teams. Do the maths. It's not gonna happen.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

There would be some revenue coming in (as long as fans can attend) but it definitely wouldn't come close to a proper home game.

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KET  
Earlier this year

I think teams need to play their usual amount of "home games" in front of their crowds.

Accomodation you pay for anyway for the away team.

To that extent best bet is to have the hotspot teams backload their home games.

That way their only issue - no doubt still a major one, is immediate cashflow.

The alternatives are too expensive and if you push the season back too much, players won't get their money and that’s a real issue. If they do get their money you have that immediate cashflow issue anyway.

Season pushed back to December/late December plus backloading hotspots plus relying on sponsorships to handle immediate cashflow issues while having fans attending and the games on TV to keep sponsors happy is the way to go IMO.

If Qld, WA, SA start having second wave then it’s fucked and hope things can turn out ok!

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

"NO NBL no NBL1. You can't have both teams playing in the one season"

What on earth does this even mean?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Too much of a risk for the NBL to start the season without 100% certainty that the fixtures can be completed. Hubs, backending games etc. is just not going to happen.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Still a lot of water to go under the bridge between now and December

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

"Accomodation you pay for anyway for the away team." Since when?

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PeterJohn  
Earlier this year

'"Accomodation you pay for anyway for the away team." Since when?'

I read KET as meaning the away team currently has to pay for accommodation.

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KET  
Earlier this year

Yeah, I was hoping that was a given!

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Mobbin  
Earlier this year

#425 6-8 months to get there sh!t sorted numbnut...

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Mobbin  
Earlier this year

Y'all do realise with AFL hubs the teams get a split of attendance, something better then nothing as they can't play at home. Same principle would apply if they need NBL hubs especially as they don't have the broadcast deal to fall back on

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Attendace is in very limited venues. The only reason the AFL is even being played is TV coverage. FFS players were getting 50% of their salaries early on long before thay even had to play. What a joke.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

NBL has formed a taskforce to plan for the 20-21 season - https://nbl.com.au/news/nbl21-return-to-competition-taskforce

Key quotes from Kestleman in the article:

"The Taskforce will assist us in planning the season, taking into account the different measures that may be in place across Australia and New Zealand"

"we are still hoping to start the season in early December but we will be guided by the Taskforce"

"Playing as many games in front of fans remains a priority."

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Of course it is. But how will that occur? There are very strict gudies lines for indoor sport. I keep saying it, who will pay for this?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

They'll obviously discuss the costs for each plan they have, and with that they'll decide if it can be paid for and by whom.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

"The NBL has left open the possibility of pushing its tip-off back even further and will consider possible hub arrangements as planning continues for season 2020-2021."

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Find a hub in smaller market town that has a few basketball courts, cheaper accommodation and get the season started. Surely with the nrl and afl being watched in record numbers the basketball should be able to get a few bucks out off sbs or a commercial station that cover cost, certainly if it's in a hub and they don’t need to fly gear in and out.

I’ve got no idea of which town out side Victoria, Ballarat, Bendigo would’ve been great but surely SA has such place or maybe Broken Hill where tourism would be shot and the could use the money and community engagement.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

If the NBL can't get a TV deal when it's in full swing, it's definitely not going to get one from a hub in a country town.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Let alone a Victorian hub.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

There is a lot more things for people to do when the virus is not around. Tv sport is cleaning up because everyone is lock down to a certain extent. Sometimes you just got take the blinkers off.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

NBL make no money from TV so a hub won't work if the Melbourne teams aren't play in front of crowds.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

NSW to be in trouble shortly I reckon.

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