Isaac
Last month

Hawks reinstate Illawarra name

The Hawks are delighted to announce the NBL has agreed to reinstate the name of the foundation club to the 'Illawarra Hawks'.

The decision follows the club reaching its lofty membership target of 4379 this season and increased corporate support from the local community.

NBL Owner and Executive Chairman Larry Kestelman said the owners first approached the NBL in November and expressed their desire to reinstate the Club’s name to the ‘Illawarra Hawks’.

"Today we are pleased to announce that we have agreed to their request after they met their membership target this season and attracted increased corporate support from the local community," Kestelman said.
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Anonymous  
Last month

Has been Illawara the whole time on nblmsite.

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Zodiac  
Last month

This looks so bush league it's not funny. The Illawarra name gets dropped they just become 'The Hawks' new owners announce they'll start playing games in Canberra etc so slowly moving the team out of Illawarra and then a month into the season it's announced The Hawks are now renamed Illawarra again and thus there to stay for good.

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Anonymous  
Last month

It was a membership drive, it was stupid.

Winning games is what drives member numbers up.

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KET  
Last month

This is silly. Their sponsor purchased most of the memberships to achieve it - what happens next year? Year after?

Is Illawarra any more engaged and committed to the Hawks after 'feeling what they missed out on'?

What happens to the idea of expanding to Canberra? Moot now?

Don't get me wrong - it looked silly when you have THE in big bold letters and the Hawks in small writing on TV graphics. Made sense for teams with a city, but to have "THE" more prominent than "Hawks" showed little forethought!

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Anonymous  
Last month

it was a cash grab plain and simple

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Anonymous  
Last month

As long as they are winning, it'll grow.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Next season

Illawara Hawks
T.Harvey(i)/E.Naar/L.Dent(dp)
J.Simon(i)/(ns)/D.Grida
D.Adel/D.Deng
S.Froling/M.Darling/A.Gak
M.Mathiang/G.Gak

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Anonymous  
Last month

Not sure they should have locked in darling for 3 seasons.

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PlaymakerMo  
Last month

"It was a membership drive, it was stupid.

Winning games is what drives member numbers up."

If the Hawks are completely and entirely un-viable any season they struggle, and possibly even when they're winning (assuming KET is correct), then they might as well be moved or shut down.

The community needs to show their support.

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Perthworld  
Last month

RIP the The Hawks.

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Anonymous  
Last month

"The decision follows the club reaching its lofty membership target of 4379 this season and increased corporate support from the local community."

Are they serious? 4379 couldn't ever round it up to 5000? Pathetic.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Everyone in Wollongong that was infuriated by this need to get themselves to games and become members otherwise the same will happen in the next year or so.

I know many people that whinged who haven't been to a game in years.

Hawks are spending in digital marketing now, i'm getting fed ads on several mediums throughout the day. Hopefully this push helps boost crowds.

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LoveBroker  
Last month

Illawarra / Wollongong whatever you want to call them have been steadily declining in their support.

In their winning year with Rotnei Clarke and Marvelle Harris under Bevo they weren't selling out.

Even when they had the #3 pick of the NBA draft the community did not support the team and under Campbell's stewardship they lost $1.7m over 3 years.

Whilst I hope they carry on their success and keep a team there, the community there don't really deserve a good team.

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Anonymous  
Last month

The snake pit has postponed all this Wednesday night games so that hopefully they to WEC and watch the hawks.

MCR are back sponsoring, that was Balls partner. Interesting.

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koberulz  
Last month

Are they serious? 4379 couldn't ever round it up to 5000? Pathetic.
They're in their 43rd NBL season, having started in 1979. It's a marketing number.

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KET  
Last month

Absolutely would love Hawks to succeed in their current home.

Legitimate questions though:

#1 Is 4379 members enough to survive
#2 Is enough to survive
#3 Are we likely to see a decline in numbers in future years once this marketing ploy is over, regardless of win/loss status
#4 Is the stadium sufficiently renovated enough to hold a sustainable NBL team
#5 Is the stadium sufficiently big enough to hold a sustainable NBL team into the future, with consideration of increased costs/cap etc.

The Hawks feel like they're living on sentiment of the few opposed to being a sustainable model or at the very least growing to the point where their prospects look reasonable (ie. Taipans re sustainable model & 36ers re growing)

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KET  
Last month

Funkyness cut off my #2

#2 Is the actual number of members minus peppermoney's purchase enough to survive

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Anonymous  
Last month

The WEC is in a shit place to get to, it's beach front. There is no parking, no reasonable public transport. The council should sell it to a developer and build a new all purpose stadium for basketball, net ball etc, near public transport and decent parking. WEC needs a lot of renovation work so flog it.

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KET  
Last month

This is what frustrates about Adelaide - the Memorial Drive tennis stadium is receiving an upgrade.

Why not do it properly instead? Have Basketball/Tennis/Netball there, even concerts, even soccer (was in one mockup in the news)! In the city on Memorial Drive or North Terrace, split the operation costs between the sports/entertainment and provide a world-class stadium right in the city with ease of Public transport, and have the benefits of food, bars around the area (Peel st etc). Worked for Adelaide Oval with AFL/Cricket, would work for Bball, Tennis, Netball, Soccer, Concerts.

Don't waste $40mil on an upgrade just for tennis and resign a city stadium to the scrap heap!

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Curtley  
Last month

The owner bought 1500 of the 4379 memberships.

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KET  
Last month

The sponsor I thought

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Anonymous  
Last month

Lk when seeling the franchise told any potential buyer illawarra was to be dropped so he could force the club to play all over NSW.

When canberra and newcastle had issue's with arenas that idea was stuffed.

Then the backlash from the fans and sponsors occured a stipulation was put in place with regards to memberships.

Its hard to sell them when a fan has no idea when they will actually see a home game.

1 home game for the first few months then flogging the idea of the nbl cup taking away actual home games to victoria makes membership drives more difficult.

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koberulz  
Last month

the nbl cup taking away actual home games to victoria
The NBL Cup doesn't involve any games that would otherwise have been home games for any of the clubs.

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Anonymous  
Last month

It will still be interesting to see how many turn up, if the sponsors bought 1500 tickets and that's also what I heard, it doesn’t guarantee they use the tickets.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Canberra's ais facility is dead and the new Newcastle stadium has been poorly designed and will only hold 3600-3800

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Anonymous  
Last month

If the Newcastle stadium was planned for 6000 it would be perfect for a team.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Honest question: is there actually legitimate interest in Illawarra to support an NBL team for the next 5+ years.

It seems that support there has been lukewarm at best for at least the last handful of years. Kinda feels liek we are flogging a dead horse, or am I completely off the mark?

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Anonymous  
Last month

Koberulz all games played count towards the nbl ladder.

Winnings quaters and games also go towards prize money.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Nbl cup ruined clubs ability to make some money. Most cup games will be empty

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koberulz  
Last month

The alternative wasn't having those games at home, the alternative was not having those games at all.

Each team still gets 14 home games, same as every year since at least 2013. COVID restrictions allowing, of course.

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Jay  
Last month

Can hawks reach playoff this year? How many nbl each team will play some news say 28 and some say 36 games..Thant's to much for 2 import and playing 2 games a week..injury will come to this player..

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Anonymous  
Last month

The last couple of months i've seen more ads in my social feeds than ever before. Hopefully these are reaching less hardcore Hawks fans.

The Hawks haven't done any genuine or serious paid marketing, especially digitally for a decade.

For too long they've relied on The Mercury and one local radio station, i98fm. Plus organic social media. Does anyone read the paper anymore?

There's a huge amount of people of all ages that play locally in various competitions that don't attend NBL games. Getting these basketball folk would be a great start.

In past seasons they've gone away from schools. A decade ago they had school sections at each end. Effectively competing against each other to be loudest and be invited back the next week.

Game night entertainment has been on the decline for ages also. Personally, i don't care for it. But People looking for entertainment more than just a basketball game do.

If they keep winning, improve game nights and keep up the increase in marketing i think there's enough 'fans to make this viable.

If not, do we really deserve the team here?

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Bolt  
Last month

The hawks lost how much under Campbell? Would love to see the facts on that one. Every club lost money - bar Perf - and it's not like he didn’t inherit a shit sandwich...

Added to that, I think you’ll find Campbell was simply the go between for Stafford and whoever/whatever he wanted. They signed a few players over his tenure that he wouldn’t have touched with your wallet. During his time, Bevo had final say on who they went after - the horrendous signings of Cedric, Jordair & Conklin were all bevo. It’s the primary reason Bevo shunned Sydney, JVG said he had autonomy and Bevo told him to shove it.

Basically, you don’t know anything about the dynamics of any club Dick Broker, but don’t let that stop you from channeling your inner Boti.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Campbell actually brought the debt down every year he was in charge, it was a total shit fight when he got there and he reduced the debt every year on a budget that United pay for two players. Bevo pick budget imports because that's all they had. Jett was actually very serviceable.

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Bolt  
Last month

True, Jett was handy for the price they outlayed. Cedric however was horrendous, they would have had Bairstow that season but he was approached early on before they signed their imports and he wanted to wait. Brisbane gave him a timeline and he chose to resign. He's probably thankful he re-upped with Brisneyland...

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