Jack Toft
Last week

SF2 Game 2: Illawarra v Perth

Well, if you want to win an NBL Championship, you need to win in Perth, and that is what the Hawks did the other day, much to the shock of Perf fans.

Perf are now sudden death and Dr Trevor has prescribed a dose of cement for all his players, but Wollongong is a steel town.

And didn't the Hawks do well on Thursday night. A win for them tonight will see them into the GF and for the Cats to lick their wounds and complain about the refs. A Cats win keeps the series alive.

No Kiss of Death today

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Perthworld  
Last week

The anti-Perth brigade are more excited about this one than the Cats and Hawks fan bases put together.

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D2.0  
Last week

I felt that towards the 3rd quarter of the season, Jervis was being used better and was providing valuable minutes. With the ultimate prospect of facing Landale and JLA in the GF, I assumed that Magnay would allow Mooney to spend more time at PF. But it hasn't happened. Jervis just looks like decoration at this point.

Perth have a habit of coming back from tough spots, and nobody in their right mind would ever right them off.
But we've also seen, on occasion when they have staggered into the finals crippled by injury, that the end comes quicker.
Sadly since Cotton was announced out for the season, we've seen a couple of guys playing like their season (and even career) was over.
What does Trevor say to those guys, that wasn't already said for the last game?

I'll keep hoping and believing, cos this series could still go either way, but the season effectively ends for somebody tonight.

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Anonymous  
Last week

If the Cats lose tonight, the "haha Perf u sux derp" dude is going to have a field day.

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Anonymous  
Last week

That last quarter I wonder if Magnay out there would there have been those highlight dunks. Wagstaff is not a centre. Gleeson has a bias about not playing centres towards the end of the game and frustrates me when as the game gets tighter and poeple more tighter natural height difference doesnt go away.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Yes, Magnay was under used, in saying that, he has not been that great.

Perth won't die with out a massive fight, hawks had better be ready. Gleeson has had his way with refs and all other coaches for seasons, but now Goorj is back he has an equal.
I don’t see Blanchfield playing as well and I see Harvey improving.
Like last game this will go down to the wire, who holds there nerve wins, just think the hawks will hang on. Illawarra by two.

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LV  
Last week

Should be low scoring and close again, could go either way but with Harvey hitting a few more buckets I'm tipping Hawks

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Jack Toft  
Last week

Perth threads always seem to crack the ton

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Zodiac  
Last week

Will the Hawks tonight become just the second team alongside the 36ers to sweep a finals series against a Trevor Gleeson coached Wildcats team?

I picked the Hawks to win the series 2-1 but looks like they'll do it in two, I can't see Tyler Harvey having such a bad game again and even then they still won that game. Mooney's really fallen away without Cotton, the guy sucks up so much gravity it allows easier opportunities for others.

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Bol  
Last week

Magnay has been a huge disappointment. Obviously still underdone so it was a gamble bringing him in but they probably had no other option with available aussies. Due to perths lack of shooting depth they needed to play wagstaff more in the last quarter. He hits those clutch threes more often than not so its no surprise gleeson has more faith in that lineup. Uncharacteristic turnovers is what really hurt them.

I think the Hawks will be able to pull off a very rare series sweep over Perth today.

Hawks by 8

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Luuuc  
Last week

Froling matches up very well with Mooney too.

Other than hoping that the Cats can keep this game interesting, mu other main hope for today is that the Hawks get a great crowd along.

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Anonymous  
Last week

This would be a win for the ages, going up against 2 imports and a next start v one import which could have been classified as a next star and rookie.

Playing Dp's in the starting line up and a ageing bench if Illawarra don’t get this then something’s wrong. Hopefully we get some away home cooking because all we getting is snacks at rac arena.

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Anonymous  
Last week

I still giggle at Perth fans complaining about the cooking. Ridiculously tone deaf

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Anonymous  
Last week

Congratulations on stretching the meaning of tone deaf to sporting matches.

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Perth fan.  
Last week

Heart says Perth.
Head says Illawarra.

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D2.0  
Last week

Sadly I think we all got sucked into the Magnay hype, with some saying we had allbut guaranteed a championship, comparing his signing to the original Cotton deal, etc.

But it seems he's basically been sitting around since going to the USA.
Hopefully its a long-term deal, and he plays a similar role to Brandt for us.
In the short-term, given he was going to replace Bairstow / Jervis in the rotation, it's still been a net gaina, just not the big one we might have expected.

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Zodiac  
Last week

Magnay just signed for the rest of this season supposedly he's going back to play in the G-League next season.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Cotton going down with a tough schedule and no practice always difficult to ease him in. Looks scared to play freely not wanting to disrupt the system.

Wasn't our saviour was a nice addition to what we had without him, might prove the difference today

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Anonymous  
Last week

Blanchfield kicking outside his cylinder, than should be an offensive foul and flop warning. Refs should review these if uncertain, don't give me this bullshit that is how they shoot.

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Another Anon  
Last week

Goorj continuously enters the court to talk to the refs. Should be auto tech.

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Perthworld  
Last week

Horribly low scoring.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Why is Gaze backing Perth so much.

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Perthworld  
Last week

Is he not allowed to?

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Anonymous  
Last week

I'd prefer my commentary to neutral, but if you like cheer squad commentary, you are entitled to.

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Another Anon  
Last week

No Cotton or Norton and Hawks still can't shake Perth.
This season is heading to an almighty fizzle.

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Perthworld  
Last week

#872 I have it on mute.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Magney has been an unmitigated disaster . Coock or JP Tokoto bad fit.

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Vic Wildcat  
Last week

Gee United will be licking their lips knowing one of these teams will be who they have to play the in the GF

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Anonymous  
Last week

United will win by 50 no matter who they play see incredible alright what a shit show

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Anonymous  
Last week

Without Cotton Perth dosent have anyone who can. Put a sequence of good plays together. No creators out there

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Anonymous  
Last week

Another excuse and the game is not over, hawks lost their two marquee players and cats not winning, lol.

Low scoring great game, I'm enjoying it. Who holds their nerve wins, Blanchfield last three is a good start for cats. Deng hitting jumpers might do it for hawks.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Man the cats are terrible that a average team like Illawara are looking like an NBA outfit. Melbourne United should just be given the trophy.

Poor display for the NBL with such poor scoring and over-reffing ruining any flow.

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Anonymous  
Last week

If anyone doubted Cottons greatness then they need to watch Perth try to play basketball without him. It's an embarrassing display

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Anonymous  
Last week

If the Cats lose tonight, the "haha Perf u sux derp" dude is going to have a field day

Don't feel bad old mate. If MU lose the "LK conspiracy" flogs come out...

Happens to any team on this forum

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Anonymous  
Last week

Norton is on one leg...

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Perth fan.  
Last week

If Perth lose so be it.
Some teams have crap rosters and don't make the playoffs.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Playing hard nose defence is great, anyone can run up and down getting dunks when there is no D. One of those dunks Oliver got in the nba the other night my grandma would've played better D.

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Bol  
Last week

Come on Blanch do something!!

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Anonymous  
Last week

Blanchfield injured? His touch is terrible at the moment

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Anonymous  
Last week

Anyone else playing the Shane Heal drinking game? You drink every time he says "don't worry about that".

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Perthworld  
Last week

Has he retired "to be able to"?

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Anonymous  
Last week

If Hawks can't win this at home against a Perth team without Cotton and Norton they should be ashamed.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Refs certainly not helping Illawarra here, there has to be a review of all three point shooters, to many soft fouls, players falling backwards before it's even left there hands.

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Perthworld  
Last week

Stiendl ♡

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Anonymous  
Last week

Perth would not even be in finals if the first part of the season they played without Cotton and Norton. Stop making excuses, you are winning.

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Another Anon  
Last week

Steindl giving Jessup an absolute touch up. Good thing you don't need to play defense in the NBA.

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Anonymous  
Last week

The emergence of travers has been pretty awesome

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Perthworld  
Last week

Wow Travers. Up by ten points somehow.

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Bol  
Last week

Huge shot by Harvey to close out the third quarter

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Anonymous  
Last week

Can we get more TV time of the guy in the hawk mask or the flog in the helmet and Viking horns? It's not an Illawarra game without it..,

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Perthworld  
Last week

Travers with three consecutive offensive rebounds.

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Another Anon  
Last week

You'd think if an NBA scout is watching Harvey they'd be talking to Travers instead.

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Perthworld  
Last week

Travers BEAST MODE.

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Bol  
Last week

Another "to be able to" from Shane

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Anonymous  
Last week

MU supporter here: what a great win for Perth. Dominated the rebounds and the 3 pointers from Todd and Clint. Great job and good luck back at home.

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Bol  
Last week

The cats cant put the ball in the hole they're doin their best to blow this again

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Bol  
Last week

Thankfully the hawks are even worse

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Perthworld  
Last week

Illawarra should be ashamed of themselves but it's good for us.

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Bol  
Last week

F***ing turnovers!!!

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Anonymous  
Last week

Well done Perth, Illawarra have overachieved imo. Going to be interesting back in Perth.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Just hold onto the ball

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Anonymous  
Last week

Gleeson victory today, his changes through the third changed the game.

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Bol  
Last week

The difference in the game was a Steindl hot streak in the third quarter

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Woody  
Last week

Jessup will be back in the NBL next year no way he's ready for the show. He’s so bad on the defensive end.

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Anonymous  
Last week

No Cotton, no Norton, no worries.

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Perthworld  
Last week

Travers was a beast on offensive rebounds, including the one he fought for on the ground.

Game 3 on Monday night.

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Luuuc  
Last week

Onya Cats

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Anonymous  
Last week

Fuck this league is garbage

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Bol  
Last week

Gutsy win!

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Another Anon  
Last week

Poor from Hawks. Big choke from their supposed NBA- bound stars.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Gutsy Wildcats win. Travers was huge, even Kevin White managed to not be completely shit and stepped up when needed

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FSTOS  
Last week

Long time Hawks supporter and while this game was a disappointing result you have to admire the Wildcat's system and fight. As a basketball fan it is also fantastic to see the emergence of Travers and his all-round game.

Another dogfight in game three.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Enjoyable game, anyone that doesn't like tough physical games can go watch lawn bowls.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Great post FSTOS! Good luck for game 3. Refreshing on this forum to have classy response to a loss.

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D2.0  
Last week

I still think that's the end, for the Hawks.
Very, very difficult to come back and win again in Perth. But a lot will depend on how Norton pulls up.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Gleeson master class on reading and reacting to every move . Guy is a master coach

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Anonymous  
Last week

Watching goorjian walk around the sidelines with those tight jeans reminds me the episode Kramer tried to wear the tight jeans and was asking like Frankenstein. Brian give it up mate.

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FSTOS  
Last week

Reading posts that worry about how a person in their late 60's dresses goes a long way to showing how fkn shallow and childish some people are on this forum. Anon .....Give it up mate and get a fkn life,.

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Anonymous  
Last week

When I last checked this was a basketball forum heavily dominated by Perth and Adelaide supporters. Didn't realise it was a fashion forum about a coach’s jeans?

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Anonymous  
Last week

What happened to Norton?

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Anonymous  
Last week

Magnay is nothing whilst in the shape his in, he'll never be a competitive 5 man here or in the nba. The pels built his frame up, to make him a physically stronger c and he lost his edge completely. He needs to go back to the leaner athletic mobile guy he was before and get back to developing as a stretch 4.

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Perthworld  
Last week

Weird comment considering Goorjian looks good and healthy for his age.

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Kb_24  
Last week

4 free throw shot by hawks..stop jacking 3s hawks!

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Anonymous  
Last week

https://youtu.be/MLUvOtqTmYM

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D2.0  
Last week

"Weird comment considering Goorjian looks good and healthy for his age"

I'm younger that Goorj, and wished I looked half as fit as he does.

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LV  
Last week

Travers will be a superstar in this league one day. If he's still here.

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Perth fan.  
Last week

LV actually makes a good point. Travers might have a future beyond the NBL.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Goorjians outfit was fine, I just hope he was able to find the toilets in time because it looked like he was busting all game.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Travers can do what exactly at nba level? Ballhandlingnot up to standard, defence not nba level, shooting nowhere near the level. Speed mediocre. He will be a high end nbl guy with maybe a few g league trials. Same for j.white.

Anyone know how legit tall he is? Every site has him listed different from 6'4-6’9.
Looks 6’8?

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Anonymous  
Last week

Imagine if Luke jackson stayed with bball, was at Perth and had same development time as travers.
Jackson would be averaging 12 rebounds a game.

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Anonymous  
Last week

#944 what is NBA level defence? Because no one plays it

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Anonymous  
Last week

Travers looks about two inches taller than Blanchfield, no more, six seven or six.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Gleeson just said he was 6'9 in press conference.
But a few weeks back said he was 6’7. Lol ok.

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AngusH  
Last week

Travers moments aside, low quality game. Neither of these teams are troubling United.

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D2.0  
Last week

Best two defensive teams in the league, playing finals defence. Either will trouble United.

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Anonymous  
Last week

^ hahaha

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LV  
Last week

Haha

They said in last night's telecast United has been the #1 defensive team and the #1 offensive team since NBL cup

Apart from Harvey there's not 1 elite scorer in this whole series and he's been well held

Unless Landale pulls a hammy or something (touch wood) GF unlikely to even see a Game 4

SEM a better chance of winning tomorrow than either of these teams against United

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AngusH  
Last week

They might both be good defensive teams, but pretty woeful offensively. Travers did a good impression of game 1 Simon, but otherwise the Hawks in particular generated some good, wide open looks for guys down the stretch, and just didn't make em.

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Anonymous  
Last week

No defence in the nba? Or is it just absolutely rubbish offence in nbl, no wonder why coaches go on about offensive rebounds so much because no one can make a shot because of the terrible offence

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D2.0  
Last week

I said they'd trouble MU, not beat them.

Unless they lose HCA advantage through Covid, it's very hard to imagine MU not winning, especially with upto 5 games.
And yes, assuming games 1 & 3 played in Melbourne in front of decent crowds, a sweep is a likely outcome.
Last year, Perth knew that on their day they were better than Sydney. Without Cotton, that's not so, and if they (or Hawks) drop game 1, it will be hard to get fired up for game 2.

On the one hand it is very sad that Cotton's injury has robbed us of a cracking GF series. But MU have been one of the top 2 teams all season (easily better than Perth minus Cotton) so nobody can complain they aren't deserving winners.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this week

Norton looked like he injured his groin .

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Woody  
Earlier this week

If you ask Greg Hire he will tell you Luke Travers has more upside than Josh Giddey. The kid will Defenitely get a summer league opportunity at least at some stage.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this week

For all the hate trev gets he goes to the press conference and says we need to get better. Goorj took less than a minute to bring up the free throw count....

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Anonymous  
Earlier this week

Gleeson clearly won the coaches battle, Perth are a juggernaut and Gleeson clearly been superb for the cats, and I'm an anyone but cats supporter ::))

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Hopscotch 55  
Earlier this week

As crazy as it would have seemed two nights ago, could Perth now be a shot at winning another championship, even without Cotton and/or Norton?

You'd say no chance.. but if SEM take care of Melbourne in one more game..

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Anonymous  
Earlier this week

No chance regardless of opponent.
Slim odds to even get to the GF.
Got away with it yesterday but Goorj will have a plan to crush Perth's lack of point guards tomorrow.

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Hopscotch 55  
Earlier this week

No chance is a bit far.
I imagine they are favourites with the bookies for tomorrow, and if SEM had to beat them twice in Perth for the championship I dare say they'd have Perth favourites too.

I'm not saying I'm sitting here banking on it, or even seeing the Wildcats get there. Just to me, the door was well and truly slammed shut, and somehow, just cracked open slightly.

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LV  
Earlier this week

If SEM beats United again, they would be favorite against a Cotton-less Perth

Or they should be. And if they weren't, they'd be juicy odds. Some might say irresistible.

Much like against United, SEM proved they can run with Perth during the season, and that was with Cotton.

If it's Cotton AND Norton that are missing, I'd give Perth about a 20% chance of winning 1 game and avoiding the sweep against either SEM or United (and that 20% is mostly down to injuries or say Landale/Creek suffering Landale's fate of today- barely playing due to foul trouble). And I'd give Perth about a 5% chance of forcing a game 5.

Based on what I've seen over the first 4 games, the champion will almost definitely come from today's game.

In one series, you have 2 strong defensive teams that are bereft of offensive options. In the other series you have two talented, deep teams that can play at both ends of the court.

Hoping I'm wrong but I expect a fairly one-sided GF, with a 3-0 or 3-1 outcome and 2 of the 3 wins being fairly comfortable. Regardless of who wins each Game 3.

Check out Illawarra's record against SEM and United too. It's woeful.

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D2.0  
Earlier this week

"Goorj will have a plan to crush Perth's lack of point guards tomorrow"

Very hard to plan for the unknown.

Would not be surprised to see Norton Suit-Up, and the opposition won't know whether he's able to play 10 minutes or 10 seconds.

Hawks might have a plan to go at White and try to fatigue him and get him into foul trouble, but won't know what plan C is. At times we'll see Wani and even LT running the ball, but who knows, maybe he throws Britt into the deep end for a few minutes to see if he sinks or swims.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this week

Perth favourites now, they don't lose two is row at home. Hawks blew it.

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