Matt DD
Earlier this year

Gems Camp and World Cup

With the Gems camp happening next week there is clearly some gaps that need to be filled given most of the team just got beaten by the Newcastle Girls who kept them to 58 points. (Jade Melbourne 21 of those points)
That is on top of most of the COE girls being beaten by NSW in the U20 Nationals.

Major Issues from key players in the Aus 17s at Oceania

Potter Out ACL
Price Out going to AFLW as a Cross Code Rookie or Draft
Swain Played last week but didn't pull up for tonights game
Pollerd went for 0 tonight and in NSW final wasnt on when the game needed to be won tonight.
Melbourne and Deeble still in form
Evans in good form playing against her mum would have been weird


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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Unfortunately AFLW have begun a massive drive poaching other athletes from other codes and promising them the world. I know of about 10basketballerd that have been approached and half have no Afl exp.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

They've had over 50 delisted, retirements plus 4 new teams coming in.
They are in need of 120+ players.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

" That is on top of most of the COE girls being beaten by NSW in the U20 Nationals"

Vics had 4 COE kids and so did NSW

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I don't think you can do cross code anymore with aflw season pushed forward.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

What a surprise price is jumping ship

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Noticed Simmons from osu and u17 WC team also going to footy.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

The turnover for aflw will be huge over next few years.
21/22 salary for rookie is $20,239

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Not many who make the switch have gone on more than 1 year.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

2 options

nbl1 + aflw

VFL or otherstate league + wnbl

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Nix 78  
Earlier this year

To be fair, the Newcastle team are OK and helped by the inclusion of Katie Ebzery for 5 games including this one. Apart from Evans, Melbourne and Dunn... COE shot poorly, but definitely tough at both ends.

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Anon  
Earlier this year

2 options

nbl1 + aflw

VFL or otherstate league + wnbl


That is right the seasons are now running parralell and when one is currently 40% of the wage about to be 30% it is a no brainer. The kids in wnbl sit anyway usually so it won't be a problem for 5-6 years.
People like Lavey will probably continue with Ball and Conti etc will continue with AFLW

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I don't think you can do cross code anymore with aflw season pushed forward.

They are forced to make a choice, which isn't good for Basketball.

As mentioned another 120 spots on lists from next year and the AFLW will be playing curtain raisers to the men.

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Anon  
Earlier this year

Not many who make the switch have gone on more than 1 year

That isn't true, may have been at the start but the $ are there now.
Conti. Lavey. Newton. Downie. Pererra all off the top of my head, let us know who lasted a year, isn't many of them.
They bring them over on 2.5 times the money plus the ability to get some marketing $ and then still play NBL1.

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Matt DD  
Earlier this year

Not many who make the switch have gone on more than 1 year

They are being offered 2 year contracts because of the expansion of ALFW going to 4 extra clubs and wanting to hold their players.

So all of a sudden it is $60k plus marketing plus NBL1

vs WNBL $26k and VFLW which wouldn't pay more than petrol

It is going to be a problem.

Melbourne would be a good footballer, Swain would be a gun

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

So is price playing WC or not?

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Anon  
Earlier this year

Cant imagine that anyone else apart from the AFLW club she goes to is making that decision.
BA and BV made kids like Taranto, Scrimshaw, Petracca, Florent, Pitonet, Owies even I think Pendles choose back in the day so the AFL aren't going to do them any favours in a competitve market.

Other girls to do well after leaving are Chloe Molloy, Tarni Brown, Jess Fitzgerald, Pearce, Hore, Cunningham

And most of them have been going now for the 5 years except the younger ones

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Watch how many of those players get delisted. The talent pool is growing quickly and the turnover will be huge in 2023. The current disparity between players skill level is immense and will start to even out once all those young girls start to come out of 'the system' Auskickk through to state league and talent id camps + poaching

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I believe 7 current nbl1 players atm are set to switch to aflw this year that haven't played previously.
Next year, wouldn’t suprise me to see 15-20 more gone.

10+ have been poached for clubs after competing on AJC u18/20 state teams this year and 2019

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Pretty ruthless, contacting quite a few girls currently in jrs and seniors in ncaa.

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Anon  
Earlier this year

Watch how many of those players get delisted.

All nine or ten named are key players in their sides.
600k new grass roots girls and they account for 20% of all AFL memberships now.
18 sides at 30 spots so 540 spots in the league.
National juniors are looking at 80 spots with 16 imports and probably 5 vets per team (40) so realistically that leaves national level juniors fighting for 24 spots. Then take away the NZ non imports and it is way less.
That is on a third of the wage that AFL offers at the moment.
Matt Owies is a prime example of the AFL having the time to develop a national level junior player to a competitive AFL Player. Kids like Psatopolous and Price have been in the vic carnival system at u15.
Marte Kolina same thing, u15 carnival player going to Richmond next year, Tom WIlson, Greenwood and I am sure plenty of others.
If you are a national junior level player or high state you have the physical attributes to survive and in some cases they enter as one of the tallest on any lists. 4 Clubs in AFLW next year paying massive licence fees that will be reinvested into the development, it is a marketing machine

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

They are state based drafts, kids like Borlase, Brazel look like natural footballers you would think that SA would be all over them.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Does wnbl need to play from maybe late July-October. Between aflw and Nbl. After a league, mid Afl, nrl. Away from cricket and start near the end of netball.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Nbl late October to late March.
Nbl1 mid April to mid July.
Wnbl late July to mid October.

Aflw start December to late March.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Brazel now with the lightning as a dp.
Not sure if that means she's more likely or less likely to make gems.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Probably neither, I think the Gems will be all the COE who haven't travelled at all due to Covid and need something to show for their time up there.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Herbert ain't going to like that. Veal is the assistant though.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Given Herbie and Veal and everyone else work for BA and BA is the COE it is more likely than not.
BA have overstated the connection between the current and ex COE athletes in both the GEMS and EMUS. Where there is a chance to get as many COE girls into the trip as possible she is going to take the chance, she has to justify the COE existence. Particularly when they are playing Waratah

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

When Herbie is the Aust Coach ^^^

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Well if they pick macdonald or Goodchild, you know it's bs. These 2 play around 2-6 mins a game.
Starters like Melbourne are playing 23+


Looking at the list now, I’d say it has to be...

Melbourne-Deeble-Loughridge
Swain-Brazel
Price-Borlase
Puoch-Dunn-pollerd
Rees-Evans


If price is out like the op stated, then you’d say Morgan is in.

Still very disappointing to not see paea, woollley out and also potters injury was a let down.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Prior I mean not pollerd.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Jas Simmons and Price announced AFLW today. Simmons Crows, Price ?. Two aussie captains, but AFLW isn't a problem according to BA
Good for the ones who stay though

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Unfortunately it's going to get worse, like I said I know of 10 or so players that have been offered even before finishing uni.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

The wnbl season needs to be moved to mid year.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Price doing aflw, nbl1 and law
Simmons aflw , nbl1
Conti aflw , nbl1

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

#690 If that is the team

Melbourne-Deeble-Loughridge
Swain-Brazel
Morgan-Borlase
Puoch-Dunn-prior
Rees-Evans

I think you are right, you Will need prior in there instead of Pollerd to at least take it up to them physically. You only have Prior, Evans, Brazel and Borlase who like any type of physicality in the team. Pollerd is struggling to score at all in the last couple of Waratah games and National 20's, I think she will get through on height.

The next crop will be good once they play this and the next, maybe you take the hit and load this team up with the double bottom agers

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Why would price not play wc if it's in august, Afl in December, preseason October,

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I think maybe.

Melbourne-Deeble-Loughridge
Swain-Brazel
Puoch-Borlase
Dunn-prior-Pollerd
Rees-Evans

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

#730 it would not suprise me if half the 2023 team got poached to aflw.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I am pretty sure aflw preseason has been bought forward to August this year and I would imagine you would have 2 lots of 2 week quarantine so you lose a month and a half, so Mid July to Mid Sept?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

#734 I like the balance in that team

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

When you consider min aflw salary may be 40k in 4 years, hard to compete.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Ifwnbl,was spring season, it would all be ok for everyone.

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Anon  
Earlier this year

Melbourne-Deeble-loughbridge
swain-morgan
puoch-borlase-dunn
prior--pollerd
Rees-Evans

Thats what we are hearing

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

So no Brazel, what a suprise. Better than Morgan atm.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Physicality may be an issue, good to see them loading up for 2023 and taking a hit this year

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Brazel should be in over Dunn based on nationals performances

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Loading up, only 3 players 04

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Brazel is a sg, Dunn a pf.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Every single tournament, the best of the best never get together.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Brazel a good shooter not taken for Morgan a slasher?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Loading up, only 3 players 04

That is 30% I think you will find Ezy might be the last true double bottom ager to go to a worlds, that is a big number when you are taking on european and uSA 19 year olds as a skinny 16-17yo

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

^^^of starters 25% of squad

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Not really loading up... but good for 2023 although disappointed in ba as they only selected u18 AJC athletes Igor development camp.

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Anon  
Earlier this year

Brazel is a sg, Dunn a pf.

If that is the case, put Brazel in as a 3, move dunn to a 4 and take out Pollerd who can't score at the moment. Totally lacking confidence in Waratah and nationals

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Even if you are young and double bottom, if you like the physical stuff which the SA girls did in the 18s and the NSW girls did in the 20s you should fill it with them, the skill sets are comparable but we are going to get smashed on the boards. All the older 2002 bigs (Pollerd and Rees) are not physical at all. Will be a coach killer

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Selected for camp - next gems...

Tayla Brazel South Australia

Lilly Rotunno Queensland

Tess Heal Victoria

Taylor Moffat South Australia

Dallas Loughridge Victoria

Carla Pitman NSW

Isobel Borlase South Australia

Jess Simons South Australia

Lulu Twidale Queensland

Sophie Burrows Victoria

Rubi Gray Tasmania

Mia Jacobs Western Australia

Dyani Ananiev Victoria

Nyadiew Puoch Victoria

Jayda Clark Western Australia

Amy Kurkowski Victoria

Olivia Bradley South Australia

Taya Webb Tasmania

Jada Crawshaw NSW

Rose Nelson NSW

Skye Mason Queensland

Jessica Petrie Queensland

Isabel Whitelaw Victoria

Meera Coburn NSW

Amy O'Hara Victoria

Amelia Hassett NSW

Ella Gordon Queensland

Grace Little Queensland

Summah Hanson Queensland

Isla Juffermans NSW

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

No dart anymore and what happened to Preston? Injured?
No mention of fearne in the states either.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Hassett looks to be developing ok, I watched her game on the weekend

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

By 23', I was thinking maybe

5’6 Loughridge/5’9 Heal
6’0 Brazel/6’0 Fearne/5’11 Pitman
6’0 Borlase/6’0 Simons
6’3 Puoch/6’2+ Ananiev/6’2 Crawshaw
6’3 Preston/6’2+ Jacobs

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Probably Hassett as the c now, unless someone comes out of nowhere.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Team announced

Isobel BORLASE South Australia
Kate DEEBLE Queensland
Charlise DUNN Victoria
Chyra EVANS New South Wales
Dallas LOUGHRIDGE Victoria
Jade MELBOURNE Victoria
Isabelle MORGAN New South Wales
Olivia POLLERD Victoria
Millie PRIOR New South Wales
Nyadiew PUOCH Victoria
Kelsey REES South Australia
Shaneice SWAIN Queensland

No Brazel unfortunately.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Good squad but not our best.

Potter injury
Price aflw

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Good squad but not our best.

Potter injury
Price aflw

Big losses, highest FIBA ranked girls last time this team played.
Interesting to note Froggy Hibbert has pulled out

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Maybe wnbl assistant somewhere.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Strongest 5 could be..

Deeble
Melbourne
Swain
Puoch
Prior

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