AngusH
Last month

Justin Simon to Kings?

No names have been mentioned, but sounds like Simon might be the defensive wing the Kings have signed.

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Johnson14  
Last month

I'm hearing the same.

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Dunkman  
Last month

Ahh the budget conscious kings.

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Weedy Slug  
Last month

Deep deep deep

Walton jr I
Vasiljevic
Simon I
Cooks
Maker

Bruce
Glover
Noi
Maker ns
Hunter

Bayles
Makoi dp
Galloway dp


Still another import spot

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Dunkman  
Last month

Back to back with that line up.

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AngusH  
Last month

Sounds like they have a stretch big signed as well.

So:

Walton jnr
DJ
Simon
Cooks
Import stretch big

Bruce
Glover
Noi
Maker
Hunter

Bayles
Maker

Possibility Maker gets a deal in the NBA I think with some of the flashes he's shown. Solid squad, but As usual a lot will depend on the imports, and Simon isn't a natural fit on offense with how the Kings played last year at least.

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Boba Fett  
Last month

"Ahh the budget conscious kings." Why are the Kings any different than most other clubs? They were under budget last season.

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Perthworld  
Last month

No they weren't. Come on Boba.

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Dunkman  
Last month

The top few clubs spend big money, kings keep telling all that they don't, just get all quality players because they are good blokes. Lol ::)))

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Weedy Slug  
Last month

Wouldn't suprise me if something shady is going on at the kings.
Let’s be real, the starters alone and they would be over the cap.

400+ easy
Walton
Vasiljevic
Simon
Cooks
Maker



Certainly everyone wants a breakdown of team spending made public

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NBLTigers  
Last month

Justin Simon makes sense. Not a bad singing by the Kings if they can make this happen.

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PeterJohn  
Last month

We've been through this. 'Under budget' here just means under the salary cap, as based on the NBL salary cap rules. See 'Explaining the NBL Salary Cap System' by Liam Santamaria, 9 July 2020 (published on nbl.com.au) for details.

A team can pay a marquee whatever they like and only a fixed portion of that amount counts toward the cap - in 2019-20 that amount was $171,654. Presumably it's risen since then but would still be only in the $200,000 range. So if the Kings paid Cooks a million dollars (!I made this up!) but made him their marquee player, only $200,000 or so would be counted towards their salary cap.

Likewise, (most) imports are paid in $USD then those $USD are converted into $AUD for the salary cap at a fixed rate of USD$0.92 per AUD$1.00. The current exchange rate is actually USD$0.6548 per AUD$1.00. So a team could pay an import AUD$400,000 but that would only be valued at AUD$284,696 for salary cap purposes. (AUD$400,000 x 0.6548 = USD$261,920 / 0.92 = AUD$284,696)

So actual spend and the 'budget' for salary cap purposes are potentially vastly different numbers. The more imports and marquee players a team has, the greater that difference usually will be. e.g., In this way, a team could pay 4 players (2 marquees + 2 imports) $2 million but only count ~$1 million towards the salary cap:

Marquee 1 - $700,000 - ~$200,000 counts towards cap
Marquee 2 - $500,000 - ~$250,000 counts
Import 1 - $400,000 - $285,000 counts
Import 2 - $400,000 - $285,000 counts

BTW, I expect a key reason Perth want Cotton naturalised is so they can pay him as a marquee. I reckon that'd probably reduce the amount his salary would count towards their 'cap budget'.

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Dunkman  
Last month

Thanks PeterJohn, well explained. Certainly helps the wealthy clubs.

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Is it only me that thinks that Cooks and Simon are a little too similar in what they bring to the table. Kings need their 5 man to be a real stretch 5 or the paint will be well and truly clogged.

Cooks Simon and Hunter certainly wont work well as a unit.

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Perthworld  
Last month

Another quality post by PeterJohn containing a good primer.

It's frustrating when one individual in particular tries to use the difference between total spend and salary cap to obscure matters because he worked for the club over two decades ago.

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Johnson14  
Last month

Justin Simon to Kings just been confirmed.





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Zodiac  
Last month

So Walton replaces Adams and Simon replaces Clark with Hunter effectively replacing Martin will be interesting to see if they sign a third import or not given the new deals for Cooks and Vasiljevic.

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AngusH  
Last month

Apparently they were talking to a stretch big at summer league. Uthoff is one name that has been bandied about, but likely not within their budget.

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