Rose had more output last season in an underperforming team where he saw lot of minutes, where the club had no other real talent.

Lanard had less output last season playing fewer minutes on an equally underperforming club that had tons of talent.

I can't find their stats per minute from last season, but it would not surprise me if Lanard was more productive for minutes played.

I think Lanard would likely be the more useful when it comes to explosive impact player off the bench. Rose would have been handy as a back up pg.

Have to see how Copes performs to call this one.

Yea thats a tough question, ive always been a Rob Rose fan, but Lanard Copeland is also a heck of a player, and i think they both seem to be at the same stage of there career, so i guess its a case of seeing how they perform this season. One also may be asking a higher price than the other, which also would be a factor. At this stage i'll back Smyths judgement and say Copeland.

Whoops, I must have taken a while typing this. Im sure that The journo hadnt posted the Rose story when I began typing. Sorry Mate!

At least if (heaven forbid) Copeland were to break down, we know at this stage Rose would be free to bring on board :-)

both are legends

copeland is a better fit for adelaide

still - it's all about the chemistry

I think Rose is too selfish to play on the team we have. Copeland wont be as demanding on the coaching staff for playing time . Rose has been quoted as saying he hates being a role player and demands more mins.

Both great players - but i think IF you had to choose the better of the two Lanard is the right choice.

No worries skip, if I had to choose, I'd go for Rose.

Rose does have that flexibility of playing inside or outside whereas Copeland would rarely play the 4 spot.

Isn't it funny that we are talking about this, they are both no. 21 too! (Iknow that means nothing but still a little quirky a side.)

That's Mee, Cattalini and Rose now in Cairns, with Rillie and Newley in Townsville and Bradtke, Rychart in Brisbane, is this the Queensland 36ers?

I agree with Skyhook - I think Copeland is better geared to play a back-up role as will be required with this years team.

Question people: If Rose is on a 3 month contract, is there any rule that stops us picking him up later in the season if he has played on another team this year. Don't remember it happening before that's all.

Didn't Adelaide get Rychart after he played the first 10 games with the Victoria Giants?

I think they did Journo, now that you say it... that was due to Vic going under though...correct?

No, it was because they cut him.

Well said Skyhook - IMO the Smyth style of play relies on having team chemistry and a group that play for each other before themselves - happy to make an extra pass than take an open shot, get on the floor after a loose ball etc etc. Rose just hasnt demonstrated this side of his game over the recent season rather looking to make as much personal impact in the time he has been on the court.

Not just the last season Statman...EVER is the word you were looking for.

Great individual player that Rose has been (pun very much intended), it's always been about me with him.

Copeland a better fit, better leader, better teacher and better bloke.

I really think he will add to our group.

Good point Fiji - I actually missed the "s" off seasons in my post.

When Rose came into the league and for many years he was a flat out star so him being selfish was often OK as he was teh go to man. As age has caught up with him he should have taken a backwards step and looked to be a teacher and help those around him be better players by setting an example and doing the little things that often go unnoticed on the stat sheet - but are still invaluable to making a group of players a better TEAM

Id go lanard over rose simply because he did sit out most of last year so he will be fresh & free from niggliung injuries etc. From what ive heard hes rearing to go also so that always helps, attitute is such a big thing in any sport and the more you want it the harder you are going to work to get it.

Lets all get to the games and see how we go.

I'm not convinced Lanard is any more of a team player than Rose is.

Potentially, there is no reason why Copeland couldn't give us exactly what Forman did last season, or even more. But unfortunately I don't think he has the attitude to play such a role and sit back and wait for the open shots. He has too much confidence in his own ability, which isn't always a bad thing, but it is if the body is no longer able to live up to that.

I think Rose knows that he is not THE MAN anymore.

You can tell by how Newley blossomed and with Rillie and Abney as the main scorers last season, Rose did have a restricted role, he even started coming off the bench and still produced some quality minutes in my opinion.

Sure Copeland didnt play as much but shouldn't that go against him, we know that ROse can play out a season, whereas Copeland is a worry. (Along with Wheeler but that is totally a different issue)

Would have Rose's name come up in discussion when the Copeland dealings started?

I seem to recall several weeks ago Rose being interviewed on Hoops FM (early May I think) and saying he had not been approached by Adelaide at any point.
So his name may have come up in discussion but It would seem he was never approached to see if he had any interest.

Just to throw a spanner into the works, on a player by player selection I would rather have Rucker over both Copeland and Rose. However, I'm not sure that Rucker would have accepted a role off the bench on our team and possibly not add the chemistry of Copes, but he played some pretty good games last year and isn't bad at running teams from the point.

I just tried to look Rucker's stats up on NBL.com, but he's disappeared from the list, as has Rose, but Copes is still in there. Anyone know what Rucker is up to this season? I would have thought he'd have a few more years left in him.

Rucker is considered by some to be a bit of a cancer for a team, although he still has the ability - statistically the 11th best player in the NBL last year.

Rucker, at this stage, is still a free agent I believe. Possible spot for him at West Sydney but I don't know if there's a major role left for him in the league.

He has sorta already become a little forgotten. I was disapointed he was out injured when the Bullets came to town last year. Always enjoyed his game.
I am quite surprised he hasnt been picked up somewhere yet.

good call bush tellagraph i think the chemistry is the main thing, if its not there we can have all the talent in the world,but we ain't winning

I'm confident that Copes will be a great fit. FFS, he was suffocated by the "Dad & Drewey" system & still withstood the pain.
Last year he wasn't given any freedom. I'm sure that he'll love being here.