Isaac
Two years ago

SF2v3 Game 1: 36ers vs Wildcats, March 3

Highly anticipated match up!

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

7 out of every 8 people cheer for whoever plays against Perth

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Manu Fieldel  
Two years ago

So What, are we waiting for the cricket to finish now?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Keys for the game anyone?

I think for Perth, they need their role players to step up, and make opportunities for their stars. Walker, Wagstaff, and Brandt need to be aggressive, positive, and productive. Otherwise, I think it could be a blow out fast.

Personally, I doubt Perth will be able to get enough movement in the paint or spread the floor to get mismatches. Conversely, Adelaide rotate very well against Perth. If Adelaide are the only team able to attack the rim effectively, then I think a foul disparity will influence Perth's strategy.

I think Adelaide can approach this as business as usual. They have been in form, and very effective against Perth, with a good variety of scoring options. How important do you think their range shooting will be?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Keys for Perth - hope Adelaide completely choke because that's the only way it's close

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Timberball  
Two years ago

Only broadcast on Foxtel in Perth... way to screw over you largest fan base NBL! Keep succeeding in those telecast contracts

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Time to kick these tossers out of Adelaide with a loss.

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Zodiac  
Two years ago

Pay the $5 a month and watch it on NBL TV

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

costs $5 less to whinge

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Have to say, NBL TV has been working well for for the last 3/4 of this season.

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Zodiac  
Two years ago

Nelson Larkins lost a tooth in training lol

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Trademark dumb foul by brandt

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Creek pulls a LeBron!

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Lol this feels over already

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Timberball  
Two years ago

Been on FTA all year but not for final

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Childress takes 17 steps and gets the shooting foul

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

That's a travel from Chill

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J  
Two years ago

So who fouled childress? Lomg night for the cats i think

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Cats don't deserve to be in the playoffs

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Get Foxtel and stop whinging

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Manu Fieldel  
Two years ago

Bless my Cotton socks!

One thing about my cotton socks and Bryce... They're both soft. 1 shot in the opening 6 mins

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J  
Two years ago

Timberball nominate perth as your team and watch for free on nbl.tv not ideal but a hdmi cable and youre done. In anu case you dont want to watch this. Perth is not playing hard enough, adelaide is still getting soft calls, frankly even if they didnt make a call for adelaide we may lose with how we are playing

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Get Foxtel and stop whinging


That is the sentiment that killed the NBL last time. Congrats on your insight.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Nominate Adelaide as your fav team . That way you can watch more than 2 playoff games ;)

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Thanks.

Get Foxtel.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

I think that's the first time that illegal defense arse bump has been called this year.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Cotton gonna Bryce

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Seriously, what value is Hodgson to Adelaide? No idea how he got selected for Australia, but plays infinitely better than when he plays for Adelaide

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J  
Two years ago

Drives straight into the defender, another foul....

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Steindl has been atrocious

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Really, shouldn't stop a live play like that.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Cotton is freak

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J  
Two years ago

Adelaode shoots 20ft and they win. Looks like they will shoot 30 at this rate

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Lol clutch play by the so call mvp

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Tokoto is a joke

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Yep very overrated

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Isaac  
Two years ago

Who's the third commentator? Balls or Redhage or someone else?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Flophage

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Brett Maher overrated scrub and Rocky Graces. Gimp

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Hodgson is a joke

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Meh game so far, home team getting away with a lot more bumping but that will even up next week. Too much to ask for consistent refs in this league.during a single game

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Tokoto has cost HJs the most money this season I reckon

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Hogwash  
Two years ago

Shorter finally scores

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J  
Two years ago

Then flexes. Highlighting the push out to get the tip in...

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Adelaide flopping like champs

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Bloody hell that Brandt foul, it that's standard no one will be left by the end of the game

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J  
Two years ago

Is brandt allowed to play d? He is straight up, stop calling bs and gifting adelaide fts

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Cats fouling like chumps

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Isaac  
Two years ago

Redhage doing OK IMO. Much better than his early bland games. Either that or it's just nice to hear after a game of Homicide on the first semi.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Brandt straight up? Lol optometrist time

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Wow, another gift.

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J  
Two years ago

Drives straight at the body, gets another call and more freethrows.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Hodgson clean block

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Nice gift to Brandt there.

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Zodiac  
Two years ago

Shithouse call

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J  
Two years ago

Bad calls everywhere, but if youre callijg crap at one end, i guess do it at both

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Lol walker

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

So, if you push someone out of the way, it's a defensive foul?

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J  
Two years ago

Another drive, jump in the body and foul. Every time

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Btown  
Two years ago

Oh yay we have the look at me refs today, soft fouls all round

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Lololol walker
Stupidest player in the league

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Nice unsportsmanlike not called. Stop whinging Cats fans.

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Zodiac  
Two years ago

Perth even getting home cooking on the road!

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J  
Two years ago

I think every cats fan will take the unsportsmanlike and retract the 8 non existent freethrows

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Rat10  
Two years ago

Unsportsmanlike foul every day of the week as Heal said!

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Cats getting very well looked after tonight

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Walker has to be one of the dumbest players in the league. I wouldn't want that on my team.

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J  
Two years ago

So brandt was moving sideways then too was he? This will be there 15th ft in the first half...

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Btown  
Two years ago

Brandt being reffed out of the game. Refs killing a good contest here

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Brandt needs to learn to stop jumping and swiping at everyone

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

I suspect it is terrible reffing both ways, and you have to aggressive to collect enough bad calls to share the advantage.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Cats fans can't complain about lack of calls. The way they play offence is so passive. They never attack the man or the rim.

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J  
Two years ago

Adelaide 17 ft in a half, perth getting homecooking.... yep sure buddy

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Brandt needs to learn to stop jumping and swiping at everyone


Brandt has to either get out of the way, or jump straight up to challenge inside the no charge circle. Offensive player was moving in, which makes it difficult to determine Brandt's motion on the contact.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

He is strong but not smart at all

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Uncle Phil  
Two years ago

Ramone!

J you are an absolute idiot, every post you have ever made is about your wildcats getting hard done by the refs. Hoops could do without you.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Tokoto looks like crap

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Oh is he even playing?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Brandt is a bad basketball player period

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Perth fans complaining about home cooking is the funniest thing ever.

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Btown  
Two years ago

I'd be telling tokoto to man up, stop settling for mid range , get inside and take some hits. Then rotate Kenny in and have him do the same.

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Luuuc  
Two years ago

I would almost have been satisfied with that half until the last 10 seconds.
Lucas Walker really is a mental midget though. What happened to the guy from the first month of the season who STFU, hustled his arse off, and forced his way into the starting 5?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Perth fans complaining about home cooking is the funniest thing ever.


Are you saying it's justified, because it has gone the other way before?

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FSTOS  
Two years ago

Yeah. J is pretty predictable and makes LV in a United game look like an unbiased poster.

As a neutral the reffing is the usual average quality with the occasional howler (the USF) and the 6ers are getting to the line because they are challenging the D by attacking the rim.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

I'd be telling tokoto to man up, stop settling for mid range , get inside and take some hits. Then rotate Kenny in and have him do the same.


Thought it was telling when Tokoto had single coverage, an open lane, and he opted to pass to Brandt. I think he lack an explosive first step to penetrate, and lacks confidence because of that. I think there is no way Conger wouldn't be driving to the rim in that situation.

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J  
Two years ago

Uncle phil, my issue is with consistently inconsistent interpretation, its not hard to make the same call both ways. Do you really want to see 40fta in a game for one team? The offence is consistently iniating the contact, defence has position, yet it is a foul. Im fucking frustrated, and im pretty sure most teams fans are when they are on the wrong end of this many fta for not much at all. Now before you say cats have had it before, im not saying that was ever right either. But thanks for making a personal attack over my oponion on some horrid officiating, you sir are clearly an upstanding citizen.

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J  
Two years ago

Fstos can you explain how going into the defender is a foul? When perth attack the rim they dont seem to be getting the same calls, can you explain why? Clearly i need enlightenment

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Luuuc  
Two years ago

I don't see any inconsistent interpretation out there. Maybe they're calling things a little soft, but Adelaide are smart enough to attack and take advantage of it, and Perth are not, and are settling for weaker options that don't put the refs under any pressure to make a call.

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J  
Two years ago

Wagstaff wasnt hit in the head?

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FSTOS  
Two years ago

The last one you whinged about on Brandt he was clearly moving forward when he jumped. I am enjoying the game and have better things to do than examine every call.

It's just the volume of your foul complaints over multiple games and only the ones called on Perth that demonstrates your bias.

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Timberball  
Two years ago

How's that ref meant to see that from the other end of the court??

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J  
Two years ago

Cotton drove, marginal contact, sobey drives, less contact, foul. Please explain. Cause i am an absolite idiot?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Much more contact on Cotton's drive than Sobey's. There is an example.

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J  
Two years ago

Fstos please see me referencing the horrid call against hodgson earlier. I just really dislike crap calls

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Funny I never see J complaining about the bad calls in cats favour

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

That said, Tokoto is just foolish to have hands in that position. Players have to know better, and make the wise choice.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Crap calls are part of the game and it happens to every team. Get over it.

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FSTOS  
Two years ago

20-1 references. We aren't that stupid to fall for your attempt to show impartiality.

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Timberball  
Two years ago

Blatant elbow to the face

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Cats getting smashed fair and square and their fans just want to make lame excuses

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Timberball  
Two years ago

23-8...

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J  
Two years ago

Why do i complain? Brandt elbow to the face, no call, then push out. Cotton drove no foul, sobey does foul. Seriously what is the difference?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

36ers getting layups.
Martin jacking threes.
But it's the refs fault lol

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Zodiac  
Two years ago

15 point lead

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Cooke is so crap lol

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Loving heal talking about how to use imports wisely

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

J completely ignoring the calls that have gone the Cats way hahaha

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Just be hard watching games with just one eye

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Must

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Lol hodgson having a clarkson like ballthrowing whinge

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Lol hodgson having a clarkson like ballthrowing whinge

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Zodiac  
Two years ago

Hodgson challenging Walker for biggest idiot in this game.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Walker : hold my beer

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Hahahahaha Creek love him

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Timberball  
Two years ago

Refs made it clear early. Adelaide drive and miss foul, Perth drive and miss it's fair. Cats should of adjusted.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Salty as the dead sea in here tonight

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Keep whinging Timberball you'll get all the calls next game smh

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Cats fans complaining about home cooking is the definition of hypocrisy

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Btown  
Two years ago

Unsportsmanlike by the standard a couple weeks ago

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Manu Fieldel  
Two years ago

This is such a great thread, guys.

South Aussies and West Aussies at their finest

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Perth looks old, talentless and pathetic

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Timberball  
Two years ago

Don't worry Anons, your teams mite be good one day, lol. It makes me smile how your fans rely on a free cheese burger to feed the family.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Is Tokoto playing ???

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

"Walker : hold my beer"

Told ya

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Perth fans having a dig at Adelaide fans for being poor, that's not original at all.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Perth to win by 2 in OT

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Manu Fieldel  
Two years ago

https://youtu.be/MP6SlDSfcLE

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Jack Toft  
Two years ago

The other SF gets 33 comments, we're up to 100 and counting with the Adelaide v Devilcats games

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Which is better- a brief thread or one with a salty fan spending 40 posts crying?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Childress destroying Tokoto

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Do think it's funny the amount of bumping sixers defenders get away with on the driving players. Pretty inconsistent.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Sobey says game over

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MACDUB  
Two years ago

Some observations:

1) Perth aren't athletic enough. Adelaide's athletic advantage permeates nearly every aspect of the game against Perth;

2) Perth's lack of athleticism hurts them most defensively - they simply can't defend the superior athleticism of the likes of Sobey, Creek, Shorter, Childress and Moore;

3) Perth look better with Kenny. He gives them more energy.

4) Adelaide should continue to play up-tempo; when they slow down, it suits Perth the most.

5) Perth can be better defensively by employing the zone (and it has slowed ADL down a few occasions this game). It balances out the athletic mismatches by preventing the 1on1 matchups;

6) Perth need to invent new ways of scoring if they are to stay in this series - hustle points and Cotton three's won't nearly be enough;

7) Perth have long-benefited from a much slower tempo and have been successful for a long time with that; BUT I don't think we've seen a team as fast and athletic as this and they're essentially trying to go into battle with a sword (whereas ADL have guns).

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Perth would have won this if it wasn't for those lousy refs!!

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Jack Toft  
Two years ago

Do think it's funny the amount of salt anonymous comments from salty Devilcats fans. Pretty consistent.

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FSTOS  
Two years ago

Cats just dont have the offence if you can keep Cotton quiet or if he's off his game.

Been pretty obvious since early in the year when it was temporarily masked by Walker's body being occupied with the spirit of a decent basketball player.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Perth needs complete rebuild. Get rid of Brandt, Wagstaff, Hire and Tokoto

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Doubt too many perth fans really care. Not being in a GF is almost a novelty to tjem

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Get rid of Brandt? Too many drinks for you I think

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Timberball  
Two years ago

Adelaide waaaaay better...didn't need the help they got.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Has Tokoto got off the bus yet?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Whingerball

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J  
Two years ago

Adelaide were better, wasnt really in doubt. They didnt need the gifts

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Zodiac  
Two years ago

Childress is a star

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

30 point lead hahahahaha Pussycats

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Whingerball  
Two years ago

Better than a sad anonotroll. Your team is either not good enough to make it or you're to cheap to buy a ticket.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

how is it possible to regress as much as Tokoto has this season? He looks like s a scrub bench player right now?

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MACDUB  
Two years ago

I have only seen about 3 quarters of the game; but from a neutral's perspective, I think the refereeing has been great tonight.

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Hogwash  
Two years ago

"Perth would have won if it wasn't for those lousy refs"

That's complete shit .
Not all us Pussycat fans are salty.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

36 points LOL

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Clint Steindl is the worst player in the NBL

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Whingerball  
Two years ago

Someone start a fight

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red 74  
Two years ago

that the cats done for the year. shouldnt have replaced matty knight with a guard.

Im a cats fan.

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Jack Toft  
Two years ago

Were Perth actually trying this evening?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Players have quit on Gleeson. Gleeson should get his resume for the taipans job

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Jack Toft  
Two years ago

"Clint Steindl is the worst player in the NBL"

No, he's not even the worst player on the Cats roster

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Clint can't be any worse then Tokoto?

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MACDUB  
Two years ago

Regarding JP Tokoto; I'd say teams such as ADL have done heaps of scouting on him having had the benefit of watching him for the entire season, are able to defend him a lot better.

Interestingly, whilst JP did go to a big College, his numbers from Sophomore to Junior year actually dropped even though he was playing more minutes;

Personally I think they are two types of players/scorers; (1) players who can bust any offense and can adapt anytime to new defensive strategies (i.e. scouting is not effective); and (2) players who have a much more set offensive style and who can be rendered much less effective with good scouting (i.e. once you take them away from their modes of scoring, they struggle to adapt).

Tokoto is more of the second type IMO.

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Zodiac  
Two years ago

Surely Perth's biggest ever loss in the playoffs?

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Btown  
Two years ago

Tokoto plays soft, won't be back next season. Has been afraid to take it inside for the second half of the season.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Tokoto has sucked. For almost a two 6 weeks now. The guys lack of skills is being exposed

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Kingpodge  
Two years ago

Sack Gleeson thread appearing in 3... 2.... 1....

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Luuuc  
Two years ago

Fkn OUCH!

Remember back when the Cats were a good defensive team? Ahh... good times they were.
That was a title-worthy team I just watched. GF series could be a good one.

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koberulz  
Two years ago

Zodiac: Lost to North Melbourne 165-110 in game three of the 1989 semi finals.

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Luuuc  
Two years ago

I'm with Btown. I don't think Tokoto lacks ability at all. His issues are all upstairs.

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Hendo8888  
Two years ago

1 down, 3 to go

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Luuuc  
Two years ago

1 down, 3 to go

Hendo jumping off the 36ers already? ;)

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Zodiac  
Two years ago

Lost to North Melbourne 165-110 in game three of the 1989 semi finals.


Bloody hell fair effort that.

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Zodiac  
Two years ago

1 down, 3 to go


4 to go, GF is best of 5 again now.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Cats going full Hawthorn. Dominated for so long then the decline begins

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AngusH  
Two years ago

For me, Tokoto's game is 80% physical ability and 20% skill. I think that's been consistent with him since his freshman year of college.

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Hogwash  
Two years ago

Time to go L.Walker, Cooke, Hire, Tokoto and DKD. Cotton ??.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

The important part is that they dominated.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

So who assembled this roster this year, they need to be fired.

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Zodiac  
Two years ago

Joey press conference, I saw a smile!

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Either Tokoto and Gleeson had a falling out hence Tokoto is half assing it or the guy has regressed substantially

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JR  
Two years ago

Great game by Adelaide. You cannot say the refs had an influence on the result and be of sane mind. Adelaide have an excellent gamestyle, go very deep on the bench and never stop coming at the opposition. I can't see Perth winning the series, even if they get game 2 they have to backup less than 48hrs later in Adelaide and don’t have the depth or the run to pull it off.
Stating the obvious but Adelaide will win this series, the only question is whether it’s in 2 or 3 games.

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Manu Fieldel  
Two years ago

I've been saying it all year and I won't change my tune... Adelaide isn't as impressive as they look. They just dominate matchups.

In my opinion, the only team with an offence well balanced enough -- and frugal enough -- to slow Adelaide is Melbourne. United has an offence so balanced that they can't really be taken out of what they want to do. They'll score on you from almost any angle, so if they want to slow Adelaide they'll gear their offence to do so.

Once it gets to half-court, it's Adelaide on the ropes. All they get in the half-court is Johnson post-ups, basket cuts and offensive rebounds. Melbourne is super adept at covering cuts and cleaning the defensive glass, and their defence is underpinned by loading (from what I've seen when I've actually paid attention) so there will be help for Johnson's man.

Shaping up as a fun grand final series

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Why get rid of Cotton? You just need to get him more help. Perth could get Prather back and go after DJ and Gliddon.

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Manu Fieldel  
Two years ago

Plus, Melbourne did a good job of hawking the NZ defensive rebounders to slow the outlet pass. In saying that, obviously Adelaide have the likes of Creek, Sobey, Childress who can rebound and run the break

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Whoever put in less than the proverbial 110% should also be fired. Tokoto won't be offered a contract next year hopefully, Walker’s Cinderella story ended up with him turning in to a pumpkin, and Wagstaff should probably look at giving the game away if he can’t be bothered trying.

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Zodiac  
Two years ago

So you're saying you think the #1 team in the league are better than the #2 team in the league? Big call that.

Melb have had our number this season beating us 4-0 but 3 of those 4 wins were pretty early in the season when we were playing crappy. The last one we almost snatched in Melb but got some dodgy calls right at the end.

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koberulz  
Two years ago

Why get rid of Cotton? You just need to get him more help.
You can't do that if he's taking all the money, though.

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Manu Fieldel  
Two years ago

Zodiac, surely you're not that simple.

Did you actually read what I said? It's more of a preview based on things we know now. I didn't talk about the 4-0 or the 1 seed, I talked about styles

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Hogwash  
Two years ago

Perth will get more from a teenage import than Cooke.

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Manu Fieldel  
Two years ago

Cotton is a weird one... he's most dominant when he's most ball-dominant. Hard to say this with absolute conviction, and it's a sweeping generalisation, but imo as the game of basketball develops over time, it is becoming more team-oriented. Defences are more able than ever to shut down a team with just one or two studs, so ball-dominant guys are less likely to single-handedly win games. Is Cotton the kind of guy (a one-dimensional, ball-dominant guy) to spearhead a dynasty? I don't know.

I see those like Casper, Creek, Lisch as better players because they're jack-of-all-trades kinda guys

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Manu Fieldel  
Two years ago

*Jack-of-all-trades kinda guys who keep the ball moving and the team humming with everyone engaged and happy

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Manu Fieldel  
Two years ago

Cotton may get assists, but that doesn't automatically mean he moves the ball and keeps everyone engaged and happy

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

No more role player centres totally inept on offence. This is not a development league when imports are on 1 year contracts

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Cotton is not the problem.

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Luuuc  
Two years ago

Cotton is fine. He's not selfish, he's just not good enough to win games on his own (basically because no one is) and he doesn't have enough help on the court. Those rare times we have other guys contributing and we look like a functional unit, Cotton is a pretty efficient player.
As KR mentioned though, if he's earning so much that we can't afford quality pieces to put around him then it's hard to justify him.
We've lost a lot of alpha scoring types in the last couple of seasons (Jawai, Knight, Redhage, Prather) and simply have not replaced them with enough.
Our strength was always our local talent. Today we rely almost completely on 2 imports, one of whom apparently checked out a while ago.

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FM  
Two years ago

Tokoto Played like a man offered a big pay day contract if only he is free in 2 weeks time.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Tokoto must have been offered that deal in January because that's how long he has been in Regression mode

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Udog  
Two years ago

Perth got their pants pulled down tonight. Be interested to see how they perform at home now.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

"how is it possible to regress as much as Tokoto has this season? He looks like s a scrub bench player right now?"

Gleeson. He lost Tokoto and the team. Exposed and by 35! Beginning of the end, bye bye!

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Perth fan  
Two years ago

Lots of a deserved questions about Tokotos mental toughness.

Not enough questions about how terrible Brandt has been.

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Manu Fieldel  
Two years ago

BAN about a third of the way through the season and nothing has changed

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Camel 31  
Two years ago

Ramome Moore's shot on half time buzzer .. a spark...
although we couldn't score against a zone ...then sobey got three threes in a minute and deng got six rebounds in 7 mins.... besides the starters all got big scores..

.. just copy and paste ....perth loose every game due to refs...

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Uncle Phil  
Two years ago

It was a great game to be at as an Adelaide fan last night. It was an electric atmosphere and a big crowd which was good to see for a semi final, especially considering it was competing with the fringe, Adelaide 500 and in the past few seasons, semi finals have often seen a dip in crowd numbers. I took a mate along to the game and he absolutely loved it so congrats to the 6ers on a good game night presentation also.

It was obviously a great team performance by the Sixers with numerous players stepping up at different points throughout the game. The team was in the right mindset and in attack mode from the opening tip and never let up for the whole game.

Perth played a reasonable first half though with Damien Martin and Cotton making some huge plays to keep their team in the game. It was interesting to watch Tokoto, he has shown he can be a good player in this league but he was taken off the court quite early in the first quarter - it seemed as though Gleeson was frustrated at him as on a few possessions he took quick shots which led to the Sixers getting easy buckets on the break. After this point, he just never got back into the game. It seems as though Gleeson's coaching and Perth’s lineup isn’t quite the right set up for his skill set. I was actually surprised Perth weren’t able to slow the pace down a lot more and make it into a half court slugfest. Part of this was poor coaching on Gleeson’s part where he tried to run a full court press multiple times which failed and led to more fast break points for the Sixers and the crowd becoming more enthused. Heal also thought this was a terrible tactic as he mentioned on the telecast.

Hopefully the Sixers can get this done in two and avoid a repeat of last year. It would be very satisfying to wave goodbye to the Cats on their home floor.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Tokoto has got all the tools to be a star but something ain't right upstairs. I don’t mean he is a headcase like Creek has been up until a year ago, more like his confidence is down. I don’t mind his midrange jumpers but if he settles for those instead of attacking the rim then the entire offence suffers. Its like watching Deandre Daniels all over again.

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Perth fan  
Two years ago

Read articles on Tokoto when he was in college.

Even his pop's highlighted "mental toughness" as an area he would have to work on at a pro level.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Yet the Wildcats didn't research this. Poor management.

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Manu Fieldel  
Two years ago

How much were the tickets?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

"Yet the Wildcats didn't research this. Poor management."

What point do you think you're making here?

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Zodiac  
Two years ago

Perth have done reasonably well with Tokoto considering they had to find someone at the 11th hour after Devondrick Walker went down injured in the pre-season.

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koberulz  
Two years ago

And frankly if they limited themselves to players without weaknesses they'd never sign anyone.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

35 point win and no Nelson sighting. Glorious

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sixtiesrockstar  
Two years ago

Wildcats fans complaining of Sixers getting soft fouls need to notice the terrible defensive techniques from Perth players. Tokoto might have hardly touched Sobey, but Tokoto has his arms down in a bad position and from view of ref it looks like he pushes him so the ref calls it. Too many times the Perth players are beaten by the speed and athleticism of Sixers and come from the side in poor defensive positions so the refs call the soft fouls.

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Udog  
Two years ago

Yep. Force them to play defense and keep up. Great game style to watch. No boring slow down tactics.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Adelaide are young and fresh. Perth are the polar opposite - old and cooked.

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Udog  
Two years ago

I'll be interested to see how the refs go in the next game. Will the home crowd be able to coax them around enough to benefit their cause? Keep making the calls and don't put your wistles away because the fans (and Gleeson) are whining! Really keen to see another fast paced, exciting game rather than a slow, low scoring slog.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Pre-emptive whinge about the refs, Udog? Straight out of the Joey Wright playbook

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Udog  
Two years ago

I just have this sneaky feeling the Cats might get away with a bit. But even so Adelaide will be good enough if they give it their best.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Sixers got a lame duck opponent and should make the most of it. If it goes to a Game 3 they aren't winning the GF with no home advantage vs. Utd.

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