17-7 36ers up with 4:15 left in the first - wow?! Still early I know.

Dusty has started well.

Taipans grab the lead, 31-30.

Dusty 17 & 11 in the first half still a minute to go... Nice

3 fouls though, so hope that doesn't hinder him in the second half. 44-47, up by three.

Maher's been very quiet.

well a lead is good, but after that start it would have been nice to be a bit more. How well is dusty going! Brett well held by mee i would guess.

Sixers up 47 - 44 at the half.

Dusty racking up with 17 & 11 at the half, fairly even spread for the rest of the team. Maher been quiet for 2 pts, 3 rebs and 1 ast. But seems to have held the snakes guards to limited numbers.

Should be a good second half, hopefully Cat stays quiet for the rest of the game.

Other than Mee of course.

Half time around the league today - Dusty 17pts & 11 rebs, Anstey 17pts 5 rebs & 1 assist, Newley 17pts, 2 rebounds & 5 assists.

Obviously this one could still go either way. Dusty has been great, but I think the worst thing for Cairns right now is that Maher has been soooo quiet! Brett will definitely make him self a factor in the second half. Adelaide shoukld be able to run over the top and have a healthy lead by three quarter time.

Newley has 22 and 7 assists 2 minutes before three quarter time. Wow. Crocs up by 1.

Bullets up by one against the Tigers, led by Copeland's 14 a few minutes after half-time.

Close games around the league today.


Rychart has 13 rebounds. The entire Taipans team has 18. Haha.

Damn Ronaldson has 20 - 8 & 5 what the hell is wrong with this league LOL

As another example of the league going wrong, Oscar has more assists than anyone else from the Sixers. We're in Bizarro World!

Boodnikoff doing some damage, now up to 18 points. Dusty miles in front with 23 and 15.

Has Brad Hill been back on since that first quarter? Four Taipans in double figures compared to only two Sixers.

Adelaide are in a dogfight now, couldnt break away, although seemd they mightve at the start of the 3rd, nice finish though, Dusty is redifining the term 'garabage man'!

brett hopefully will fire in the last someone else really needs to come to the party and spread the load more. go dusty!

Taipans scoreboard seems to have frozen for me? Has Taipans 70 36ers 67 1min left in the 4th

NBL is showind Taipans 70 36ers 77 9:28 left in the 4th. Considering the time that has gone it would have to be closer to the NBL one than the Taipans one. Hoping too :-)

10:42 36ERS - Basket made by [11] D. Cooper 70 71
10:22 36ERS - Basket made by [9] W. Farley 70 73
09:53 36ERS - Basket made by [12] J. Holmes 70 75
09:24 36ERS - Basket made by [12] J. Holmes 70 77
Not a bad 8-0 run to force a taipans time out.

08:18 36ERS - Basket made by [12] J. Holmes 70 79
make that a 10-0 run woo!

Sixers winning the boards 27-47 ?!

And only 4 assists total?

Still ahead, 70-79. Holmes has just been on a little 6-point run.

78-82. Maher and Cooper head to the bench for Farley and Forman. NBL scoreboard says that Taipans have 6 players on the court...

Holmes moves to 19 and 9. Farley hits three. Up by 9, Cairns call for a timeout.

4.26 to go and 4 points the difference. I can't look any more its getting too unbearable. Go Sixers.

not sure why holmes got subbed off, hes been on fire in the last 1/4.

Surely the assist stats must be wrong? 5 for the game?

4 points 1:42 left....hmmz

close finish, got a lead so i think we should be fine (touch wood!)

90-92 -- 29 seconds left!

ah spoke to soon

30 seconds... up by 2

go you dustbuster!

should be fine now. 90-94 5sec

5 seconds. Up by 4. Cairns scoreboard has us up by 2.

94-90 5 secs to go 36ers up

36es win!!! :-) Yeah BABY

Cairns scoreboard is saying "Full Time Score ADELAIDE WIN!!!".

That's that then.

Great game by Dusty, and the 36ers as a unit.

It's great to split the weekends games.

Cairns scoreboard has us winning by 2 NBL has us up by 4 with 5 seconds to go.
Cairns scoreboard manual comments section showing Full Time Score Adelaide wins!!! :-)

1-1 for that road trip is a good result.

by what 4 or 2?

What a relief to get one on the road. Great game from Dusty and Jacob.

Meanwhile, Newley drops 33 and 8 assists on Perth. Ronaldson had 22, 9 and 7. Rillie 28 and 11. Crocs win by 15 (got the tip, yes!).

Tigers just ahead against the Bullets with three minutes to play.

great game from dusty again POTW. Also great game with maher well held, did hill play much? he was on 5 points the whole time virtually hopefully is did not get hurt.

who cares we Won

Newley will get POTW then with his 2 games.

Maher 7 points lowest i can remember him ever getting outside of his first few years

Jacob seems to have regained his shot.

Knight will get POTW ahead of Dusty perhaps. Had 23, 16 and 8 I think. Newley would be a narrow chance.

Knight deserves it his game was AWESOME the other night - and I dont like the guy :-(

Wouldnt mind have seeing the Brisbane vs Tigers game - Anstey 23 & 11, Thomas 16 & 4 Tucker 17 & 11 vs Bradtke 24 & 9, Mackinnon 14 & 10, Copeland 19 & 1.

anyone wiser on if hill just did not get minutes.

Now Taipans site says controversy on last shot. Maybe overtime! Have we won the game?

Damn NBL Live scores need to improve!!

BTW NBL website is now saying 92-90 Sixers win - crucial basket with 6 or 7 seconds to go by Dusty!!

looks like it could be OT

Correction they have taken Dusty's 2 points with 5 secs to go off thus 92-90 sixers win.

This is how it went
02:13 36ERS - Free throw made by [45] D. Rychart 82 92
01:44 TAIPANS - 3pt basket made by [20] G. Boodnikoff 85 92
01:05 TAIPANS - 3pt basket made by [13] D. Mee 88 92
00:29 TAIPANS - Basket made by [33] M. Thomas 90 92

Looks like this was a 24 second shot clock violation - wonder who for taipans took the last shot with 5 seconds? Have to be Mee or Cat if he got open.
00:05 36ERS - Basket made by [45] D. Rychart 90 94
00:05 36ERS - Basket made by [45] D. Rychart 90 92

No OT NO controversy.

Unless of course NBL scoreboard is screwing with us AGAIN!!?!?!?!?!?!?! and they have stuffed 2 points up somewhere earlier?

Refs change the game. (#4376)

Supposedly the referees have just said that there was no time left on the clock when dusty put up the ball and have changed the scores back to 90 all - although the Sixers have not come back from the change rooms.

admin, 18/09/05

Thanks DJ. Had me worried there for a moment. Especially as Sportal had it down for 90-90 with Overtime.

Glad to hear we won.

Don't take my word for it - thats just my take on the play by play!

Damn you DJ!!

so what is going on did we win?

Taipans have lodged a complaint with the nbl over the last shot made, score bench says clock had expired before shot had been taked, however Vaughn Mayberry has overruled the score bench.
Adelaide 36ers have already left back for thier hotel, big controversy in cairns.

Surely if the players had already left to the rooms the score is finalised? %-?

If there is something going on Phil would be going CRAZY right about now!

Maybe its just the Taipans scorebench screwing with us all :-)

at least we have the win. They cant take it from us now can they?

Well done Vaughn. Sounds like a crazy game.

The thing I don't understand is that according to the NBL Live Score, Dusty's shot should have put us up by 4 which I assume was incorrect?

The NBL has got to improve its live scores.

Ok so the home town scorebench thought that the clock had expired - unfortunately as far as I know the referees make that call and can check with the bench if they are not confident in their decission - for Vaughn Mayberry to over rule/disagree with the bench than he must be confident in what he saw.

Wins a win - ouch there will be some fire in the next clash.

So Dusty's controversial final shot put us up 92-90 or 94-90?

Very confusing.

92-90

the scores were tied when he made the shot on the buzzer.

DJ just had call the sixers have left the stadium and are back at the hotel. Everyone is standing around and the taipans are warming back up. stadium is only 3/4 full. all nbl stats people are still at game. TW

According to the NBL scoreboard the score is now 90 - 92 Sixers way

What the hell is going on.

Hopefully is getting sorted.

Would be good to have a cairns fans point of view.

FROM OZHOOPS BOARDS:
Taipans:
We are still waiting it has been 20 minutes since the game was finished, the nbl have not made a decision yet, Alan Black was fuming at the refs for their decision.

well we cant go back on can we. If the umpires stuffed up too bad.

Is there a time gap limit between the last period and overtime?

How long can they wait before playing overtime? SUrely there are some rules?

Has the came been called off

That is right.

If they count the basket, how can they change the call after the team has already left the stadium.

Knowing the NBL, they will find some way from keeping us from the win.

You would think that the umps have the last say and they made the call as they see it and the moment and all have to live by it.

lemme get this right... sixers have officially won or not?
im trying to call my uncle on the fone he is the team manager but hes not answering

I think the problem here is that one ref called it in and 2 said it was late - not sure but I would think Vaughn would be a senior/head ref - so who makes the ruling - does it come down to the head ref or 2 vs 1? plus the scorebench and crowd all backing the home team :-)

dj update. Shot clock buzzer went off but the official game clock still had 7 seconds left on it.

They have just announced at the venue that the refs have decided to replay the last 7 seconds of the game at 90 - 90. The Sixers are unaware and back showered at the hotel - NBL are trying to contact Steve Breheny now. If still tied after 7 seconds will go into overtime. tw

Correct Vaughan over ruled the other refs to count the bucket according to people at the game

Is this were the problem occured on nbl scoreboard

4th Period Taipans 36ers

10:42 36ERS - Basket made by [7] M. Nash 90 92

10:42 36ERS - Basket made by [11] D. Cooper 70 71

thus meaning this basket
00:05 36ERS - Basket made by [45] D. Rychart 90 94
00:05 36ERS - Basket made by [45] D. Rychart 90 92
should be 92-90 and if taken away makes it 90 all.

that is crap real crap. The NBL petter look into this tomorrow or tonight

Ouch admin - that is harsh - showered cooled down - probably in recover mode already!!!

So 7 seconds to go and one would presume Taipans possesion.

So I guess it is the Sixers turn to complain now as to why they were allowed to leave the stadium in the first place - how much warmup time will they get etc etc!!!

The NBL has just opened a nightmare for them!

00:29 TAIPANS - Basket made by [33] M. Thomas 90 92
00:05 36ERS - Basket made by [45] D. Rychart 90 94
00:05 36ERS - Basket made by [45] D. Rychart 90 92

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score went from 92 - 94 - 92... huh?

admin, who is telling you this?

Boty Nagi is going to have a feild day tomorrow in the paper about this!

Ok decision has been made, there was a shot clock violation with .7 of a sec left.
Score is locked at 90 each.
The game will continue with .7 secs on clock. If at the end of that there is a draw there will be overtime

From Daisan at the game - ozhoops boards

Steve Breheny has said that the guys will not return, they are in hotel pool doing recovery. This has also just been the at the game.

A poster on Ozhoops has just posted this:

"Ok decision has been made, there was a shot clock violation with .7 of a sec left.
Score is locked at 90 each.
The game will continue with .7 secs on clock. If at the end of that there is a draw there will be overtime.

However no one can find the adelaide 36ers to let them no !!!!"

Apparently the poster is at the game... still, any idea of whats going on?!

Now they are just trying to find the Sixers LOL run F.O.R.E.S.T. RUN!! :-)

KB, would guess partner of a Cairns player?

Knowing the bloody NBL, they will forfeit Adelaide the game.

Daisan who is at the game - I believe is the guy who does the Taipans live scoreboard.

In case anyone doesn't know but Steve Breheny is coaching tonight. Phil had to fly home yesterday.

Kent, Darnell and Sapwells wife are at the game calling me with updates. Sounds like one crazy game!

players back at hotel have had a swim and are heading for dinner, good luck getting them back to play

I would suspect that a forfeit is a fairly real risk?

But then, if your players are in the hotel pool, can you really expect them to risk injury by returning to the game for 0.7 seconds? Or overtime?

This is embarrasing for the administration at Cairns.

The team does not leave the court and get straight on the bus.

around 10 minutes would have passed between the game being called and the sixers leaving the stadium.

If it has taken longer than that to sort it out the original decision of full time should stand.

Just to recap one ref Vaughn Mayberry called the basket good? Thats enough for me :-) Wishfull thinking.

From the NBL site:

The result of the Cairns - Adelaide game is pending:

With scores tied at 90-90, Dusty Rychart hit what appeared to be the winning basket for the 36ers but the shot clock had expired with 0.7 of a sec to play.

Initially, everyone believed the shot had counted and, while the match officials reviewed the situation, the 36ers -thinking they had won - left the building.

I would guess that Breheny will refuse to take them back to the stadium. Result may not be finalised until tomorrow. Guessing forfeit will be imposed.

How do they not get in touch with the Sixers before they've left the stadium!?

This is just making the NBL look Like a joke ... this would never happen in any other comp ..

DJ has suggested on MSN Messenger that they play a 5 minute mini-game as a warm-up to the next clash. Haha. I bet the NBL screws us on this!

Skinner on Ozhoops:

Adelaide 36ers have left the building, refusing to come back to the stadium. NBL Administration has apparently instructed the Sixers to return to complete the final 0.7 seconds, however they aren't.

NBL Administration has apparently requested the Taipans to lodge a formal protest tomorrow morning and a decision will be taken once this occurs.

Sounds like incredibly poor communication...What does a forfeit entail?

Probably should be played as a mini game after their next clash to simulate fatigue :-) Carry the stats from this game fouls etc :-)

from the court

the game has been called null and void with the entire game to be replayed at a later date.

A fair decision IMO, though a forfeit would also have been reasonable.

Would Dusty's statline be forever lost to history?

Should add that that has come from Anthony Stewart.

Any chance of POTW from a game that had no result/didnt exist haha

This really is a joke

If cans win by defult can or will the 36ers take further action against the NBL.

Skinner on Ozhoops again:

Whatever happens, there won't be an answer till tomorrow morning - apparently the NBL Administration has instructed Cairns to lodge a formal complaint tomorrow morning.

this proves that the NBL really is a F***ing disgrace. What an absolute joke!

Isaac, is this one of the longest threads you have had lately?

I love how you can go from 94 - 90 with 5 seconds to play to 90 - 90 with the game called off.

The real joke is the official NBL scoreboard - what a waste of time.

Did anyone else notice that the Taipans apparently had 6 players on the court for most of the last quarter?

Why bother trying to keep up with the game when the NBL can't get it right? I think I will just wait to read it in the paper from now on...

I strongly urge all true basketball fans to email/write to the NBL's head off tommorrow morning and inform them of how pathetic this is.

The rest of Australia already sees the NBL as a joke, and guess what, looks like the NBL proved them right once again!

GR -- it'd have a fair shot at the most posts/reads in the shortest amount of time!

But it was the Cairns scoring bench that made the mistake not the 36ers. The Cairns bench and the NBL should take full responsibility for the debacle they have turned the game into, and if the ref said the shot counted then IT MUST COUNT as the refs word is the FINAL word.

disgracefull simple as that. ref's decision should be final and thus treated as that, how will that ref feel next time he has to make a tough call, he will be secound guessing him self for the rest of the season,

i would like to stress im not blaming the ref, they should be beyond reproach and not in anyway blamed,

Anyone remember Mee's foul on good ol' flopper lowery a coupla years back????

Correct Thomo

Only thing i can think is that Vaughan has counted the 2 points and Cairns have the ball with .7 seconds left with us up 92-90.

Under new rules they can take a time out and get the ball at half court.

we have all seen enough shots go down with less than this on the clock.

A call this bad, i bet wayne haydons involved

NBL site has reinstated game score at 92 - 90.

either way nbl need to do several things out of this

firstly and foremost they must "publically" show support for the Ref in question and back him,

secondly make a stance / rule and stick to it whether seen to be right or wrong , and must have COMPLETE support by ALL NBL members and thus publically shown,

the last thing this needs is to have the nbl make a ruling only to have its members publically challenge it or disagree with it therefore showing disunity and bias towards teams,

this un professional incident if handled the right way both publically and internally could potentially have a positive effect on the nbl's public perception if and i stress it is handled professionally by all concerend teams, admin , ref and member clubs of the nbl

Skindog on Ozhoops:

Just spoke with Marc Howard (NBL Communications manager) who has stated that the score is currently Adelaide 92, Cairns 90 and this is a final score, however the NBL are expecting a formal protest from the Cairns Taipans and this will be dealt with accordingly once received.

This is the official word.

thanks for the cross posting isaac from ozhoops was bout to do the same thing,

anon #50847 great response :)

Just checked the NBL website and that little article has been deleted and the scores in the right hand column have the Sixers 92 and Cairns 90 - what the? Has the decision been reversed again?

Why dont they put that up on the NBL website, so everyone can officially know what is happening!

oops, sorry about that guys, my browser didn't refresh properly- sorry to restate what had already been said.

I hope the NBL backs Vaughan Mayberry's decision. The most important thing is that he is not blamed for this. Whether he made a mistake or not is unimportant at this stage.

And since when can a team appeal the decision of a sporting game. This is Basketball for god's sake! not the High Court of Australia.

Let the original decision stand!

so sixers win

This from Dusty --

The refs dint call the shots when the game ended - they hung around for 5 mins and still the win was theirs, so they left.

20-30 mins later the sixers were called back, but they refused to come back.

He said theres no way they will forfeit it or anything.

The team believes the win is theirs.

The real question is... do the Sportal Fantasy Comp stats stand? ;) I hope not, because Maher had a stinker!

"re: Sixers vs Cairns game thread (#50817)

This is just making the NBL look Like a joke ... this would never happen in any other comp ..

The truth, 18/09/05"

No, but only a genius competition would move Junior games because of a flower show!

Heard same story via another player. Black went crazy after the game and Cairns were warming up for 50 minutes or so "on court", expecting the 36ers to return!

One thing's for sure (and to quote the player involved): this will sure get basketball on the front/back page again!

well this is so stupid. While by all sounds we are lucky the shot got counted i think we have to get the win. The umpires decision is final, do we now go back and question all the little mistakes they made during the game that cost points and replay them? no. If its a mistake its a mistake and all have to live by it, this time the 36ers were lucky, in the past ie mee lowery foul we were not. end of story.

Gee, don't rely on the NBL website - no update/story there.

Don't rely on 36ers.com - they haven't even started the weekend yet!

It's here or OzHoops for me! ;-)

I bet you we (Adelaide) end up getting screwed out of this. It isn't Cairns fault, but if the refs are supposed to have the final say, then Cairns has no case.

I feel for Alan Black but the fact that the call was wrong really doesn't make a difference. Anyone who watches a game of NBL basketball knows that the referees don't EVER come close to getting everything correct, so why should this be any different?

If the league imposes a forfeit on Adelaide then the response from the Sixers should simply be "F*CK OFF". Surely there has to be a time limit, and if a decision can't be reached by the time it takes to get 10 players and a half a dozen support staff from the court and back to their hotel, then any subsequent decision cannot possibly have any credibility.

Like I said, I feel very sorry for Cairns, but this should ABSOLUTELY not cost Adelaide.

agree totally but i have a strange feeling the nbl will find a way to screw us over

how can they. it really has to come down to how much respect you give to umpires. If you start to take away their power what is the point. Games of afl have not been reversed after footage has showed a goal to be a point or visa versa. Its a mistake but one all parties have to live by.

i agree totally joshuapending

the refs should be given the respect regardless of the decision whether right or wrong

but in the past the nbl would rather please the complaining party and im sure at this point they would be thinking , ok adelaide by all accounts should win, as ref decision is final, but they would also be saying cairns wont be happy and we dont like conflict or whinging so maybe a re match would be lesser of two evils,

hope adelaide takes a strong stance if that is the outcome

either way like my first post on this to over turn the decision now will do more harm then good to the nbl ref fraternity, come the next tough call they will be second guessing themselves which will result in more frustrating calls etc..

also stephon where would this leave the nbl leagally , if the over rule and have a rematch shorely that means from now on any game decided at the buzzer the losing team would have justified reason to appeal the result and or take it to the court of arbitration for sports and so forth -- massive can of worms this could open if that decision is made

lets hope theres some level heads nutting this one out at the moment

The game report is up on the NBL website so from the NBL it is the 36ers win unless something comes out of the Taipans protest which would seem unlikely to change the result in anyway or make the game replayed, forfeit etc

nbl website saying sixers win...

hope it stays that way

i still think cairns will protest

Marc Howard from the NBL has stated that the final score is 92-90 in favour of the Sixers but with a complaint pending from the Taipans. The final score has to be the final score regardless of the outcome. The Sixers have put up with their fair share of shit calls from the umpires while the other team have had a benefit from it. It happens all the time, you take the good with the bad. If umpires can't make a decision between the time the game ends and the time the players have left the building, then there cannot be a decision other than that already made.

How fair is it that Black had his players continuously warming up after the Sixers left building and then expecting them to come back? What an unfair advantage that would have been for his team and a tremendous disadvantage to the Sixers. They were alread hyped up over the win only to be told to come back because you really hadn't won. This is absolute absurdity at its worst.

171 photos from the game, available here.

Love the sign "Where is a 36er?" at the end. Sensational pictures.

according to Boti quoting Breheny the shot clock went off whilst Dusty's shot was in the air.

Hard to think that any time was left on the clock in that situation.

NBL is a joke if they reverse this decision or do anything withthe scores.

Remember Darryl Pearce was awarded a 3 when TV showed it was clearly a 2 many years ago when the sixers won in Brisbane.

May be that result should be up for reversal as well?

I wouldn't be surprised if it was reversed, but it shouldn't be. A bit of a joke if you ask me.

while 2 pts and reffing are at issue i heard that 36ers had 2 pts that were disallowed earlier in the game after the ball allegedly touched an illegal part of the backboard but reportedly it didn't. So we accept there will be wrong calls but the ones in the last second are the only ones that are in the spotlight.

The NBL site now states that:

"A last-second jumpshot by Dusty Rychart has given Adelaide a 92-90 win over the Taipans, but an appeal by Cairns is pending following the controversial finish"

Seems that Cairns have formally made an appeal?

Does anybody know where to get stats for that game, eg boxscore?

was on nbl.com last night but not now

How about they play a double header up at Cairns with the warm-up game being a replay of the 1972 Olympic gold medal game USA vs Russia.

......and then they can also replay the 3rd test.

http://foxsports.news.com.au/story/0,8659,16646733-23769,00.html

says that the result stands, Vaughan called the basket good and ended the game.

They need to do that anyway to have a final score. Cairns will lodge an official complaint today though no doubt. The NBL will then assess it and make a decision. I don't think they will take it away from the sixers and if they do, i'm sure the sixers would contest as fair as possible.

Just to make it official - NBL have released a statement (5.30 pm 19.9.2005) upholding the original decision by the umpires and giving the game to the Sixers.

Yey, sorry I just wanted to be apart of such a big thread.

Go Sixers

Thanks for the compliments on the photos :)

Now, on to the next game...