Hogwash
Two weeks ago

Hawks v United 8 Nov

Third matchup already between thses sides.
Goulding out for Melbourne makes this a close one imo.

Thoughts?

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Hogwash  
Two weeks ago

* these.

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Luke  
Two weeks ago

Could see this one going either way..

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

This probably will be very close, Melbourne done lot flying and games over the last few rounds. Hawks will want win this to stay in touch, think even without Goulding Melbourne should win a very good tight contest.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Melb by 16

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Jack Toft  
Two weeks ago

Last time they played in the Gong, quad-druple over-time

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Luuuc  
Two weeks ago

Could see this one going either way..

Yeah ditto. The Hawks could be uncompetitive and lose badly, but I could also see them being competitive and losing narrowly.

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jumpshot  
Two weeks ago

Melbourne by 20.

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LV  
Two weeks ago

I literally forgot all about this game. Wow!

This is the natural cycle...we're in what, round 4 now?

First couple of rounds, watch heaps of bball, eagerly anticipate every game...

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Perthworld  
Two weeks ago

Market has Hawks firming and Utd drifting in price. Interesting.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Jack Toft, the other day I gave you credit for being one of those most ingenious posters on here. Someone who I try to seek out in game threads to see what gold you come up with. And this is what you deliver today? My life is over.

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Jack Toft  
Two weeks ago

sorry mate..... work day and a crazy week at work so far, so I haven't been able to deliver....

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Ben  
Two weeks ago

+1 Anon 553.

Vote #1 Jack Toft.

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Jack Who?  
Two weeks ago

If waiting on Jack to deliver a thread is the highlight of your day I feel sorry for you.

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FSTOS  
Two weeks ago

"Last time they played in the Gong, quad-druple over-time"

Jack Toft

You could have said ....last time they played in the Gong there was more overtime than you would find on a Macedonian steelworker's pay docket.

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Shayno  
Two weeks ago

Backcourt????

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Nope everything has to go over the half way line, including the ball. The ball never crossed the line

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Dr. basketball  
Two weeks ago

Hawks best play is giving it to the big fulla near the hoop

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Shocking calls again in this game - definitely favouring hawks.

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Manu Fieldel  
Two weeks ago

League-wide conspiracy to get Illawarra into the playoffs

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Hoopie  
Two weeks ago

Shocking calls, and a few obvious make-up calls, but that doesn't excuse United’s poor play.

United are proving to me that they’re a confidence team - they have really tightened up and look scared to shoot from outside. Not filling me with confidence for the finals right now.

And wtf was Vickerman thinking when he had only one decent (read confident) shooter on in the 3rd quarter?

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

just a matter of time before the hawks roll over

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

3 absolutely terrible fouls on Kennedy and he's fouled out. This league is a joke.

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Perthworld  
Two weeks ago

Home Cooking League sponsored by Hungry Jack's. Wait, what?

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Andrew  
Two weeks ago

Surely its home cooking because Bevo used to coach Perth.

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J  
Two weeks ago

Maybe if united keep running up high foul counts it's because they are consistently fouling....

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Benno  
Two weeks ago

Do those guys in green get paid? I sure hope not!

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Love fracktards commentating about the refs when they don't actually understand the rules.

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Ben  
Two weeks ago

I genuinely enjoy watching any team in the league play, but damn that final quarter was the toughest thing I've ensured so far in to the season.

Offense was turrible.

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mike  
Two weeks ago

my god the refereeing was terible - making the games hard to watch - I was at the Breakers v Adelaise game last week and that pasty bald ref blows his whistle on every play almost - if the basketball is G leage standard the refs are primary school standard - something needs to be done about the way they ref. There is little post play and loads of threes and free throws as you cannot touch anybody.
Just watched the Lakers VS Minnesota and couldn't tell you what the refs looked like but you did in this NBL game

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mike  
Two weeks ago

my god the refereeing was terible - making the games hard to watch - I was at the Breakers v Adelaise game last week and that pasty bald ref blows his whistle on every play almost - if the basketball is G leage standard the refs are primary school standard - something needs to be done about the way they ref. There is little post play and loads of threes and free throws as you cannot touch anybody.
Just watched the Lakers VS Minnesota and couldn't tell you what the refs looked like but you did in this NBL game

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Dr. basketball  
Two weeks ago

There are some very insulting comments about the referees being made but I was taught the bloke with the whistle is always right.

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Perthworld  
Two weeks ago

I rate Louise.

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Luuuc  
Two weeks ago

Noice Hawks.

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paul  
Two weeks ago

"Maybe if united keep running up high foul counts it's because they are consistently fouling...."

This. Dean Vickerman's teams have finished 1st in fouls every year he has coached in the league. I personally think Melbourne are lucky not to be whistled more, they certainly push the envelope with the way they go about it, just like many championship teams before them.

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Manu Fieldel  
Two weeks ago

God I just love Brian Conklin and his 'fuck you' game style

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Perthworld  
Two weeks ago

I don't mind him either. Uh oh Perth fans coming at us in 3, 2, 1...

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Melbourne looked jaded, in this competition you can't be slightly off and win. Anderson made a statement as well.

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Jack Toft  
Two weeks ago

You could have said ....last time they played in the Gong there was more overtime than you would find on a Macedonian steelworker's pay docket..


Don't laugh. I have a friend who works in HR at the steelworks and they told me of an incident in the 1970s when they had a guy (possibly of ethnic extraction) who was on two shifts at the plant and had been for some time. They were on a shift crew in the sinter plant (start of the process) and on a second crew in the casting yard. The steelworks had something like 14,000 workers so there were bodies everywhere and no one clicked he was drawing two pay packets and sleeping on the job.

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LV  
Two weeks ago

I missed this one.

Any mention of how CG's knee is going?

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mike  
Two weeks ago

i lovethat the guy with the whistle comment is right - trouble is there will be nobody watching the games and imports not wanting to come. DJ Kennedy last night and Shawn long tonight were just sat because of trrible Amateur calls. When your watching non professional etc you can't complain, but in prof basketball the standard of the refs needs to be up similar to the standard of the players.

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paul  
Two weeks ago

"Nope everything has to go over the half way line, including the ball. The ball never crossed the line"

Just watching this game now, ball is over the halfway line once McCarron touches it with both his feet over the half. Unbelievable missed call, not surprisingly Chris Reid again! Whenever there's a howler good chance it's Reid or Chapman, they just seem to make a habit of it.

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koberulz  
Two weeks ago

You have to have control of the ball in the front court. McCarron never had control.

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paul  
Two weeks ago

By my reading the definition of control in this instance includes attempting to catch it (the standard definition of control is holding or dribbling but that now includes catching for crosscourt violations), which was the case here.

The three points of contact was introduced for the situation of a player dribbling the ball across half-court, to combat the trend of defenders trying to pump them back whilst they were straddling the line.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

30.1.1 A team is in control of a live ball in its front court when:

- A player of that team is touching his front court with both feet while holding, catching or dribbling the ball in his front court.

Although ugly McCarron's was a legal play.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Catching, not attempting to catch. The player does not take control of the ball. If this was a inbound pass in the front court the shot clock would not start ruining until United took control, not just because he touches the ball attempting to catch it. The game clock would start but not the shot clock.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

what time in the game was this?

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paul  
Two weeks ago

If 'catching' actually means a complete catch then it wouldn't need to be added to the definition, because someone who completes a catch is 'holding' the ball. It's an interesting one because the new definition certainly could have been worded better.

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paul  
Two weeks ago

"If this was a inbound pass in the front court the shot clock would not start ruining until United took control."

United take control of the ball when the referee hands it to the inbounder in that situation.

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paul  
Two weeks ago

OK, managed to dig out FIBA's examples of the new rule, which contains this statement:

"A live ball has been illegally returned to the backcourt when a team A player who is completely in the frontcourt, causes the ball to touch the backcourt, after which a team A player is the first to touch the ball either in the frontcourt or backcourt."

This suggests the play last night was a violation. But then further along it gives a really explicit example, which says it is in fact legal, so I got this one wrong:

"A1 in his backcourt passes the ball to A2 who is in his frontcourt. A2 touches the ball
which returns to A1 who is still in the backcourt.
Interpretation: Legal play. A2 has not yet established control of the ball in his frontcourt."

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koberulz  
Two weeks ago

The stupid thing is McCarron could have avoided the entire situation by putting one foot in the back court before catching the ball, instead of trying the balancing act.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

In a nut shell though they got it right, even though I like nearly all others thought it was a bad decision. Well done to the refs even though a lot off decisions in that game were woeful.

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