Anonymous
Earlier this year

Boomers 2020 Tokyo lineup

It's been a while since the last thread. I’ve got:

Mills / Exum
Dellavedova / Broekhoff
Ingles / Creek
Simmons / Maker
Baynes / Bogut

Reserves: Bolden, Green, Goulding & Adel

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Lol, mills at 1, Delly at 2? Exum has done little, so,too Maker.
12 players on the team...



Simmons / Dellavedova
Mills / Cotton / Exum(CG) or Goulding(SG)
Ingles / Broekhoff(SF) or Creek(SF)
2-3 of Landale, Bolden, Maker, Kay (Brown likely to choose NBA guys over nbl or euroleague)
Baynes / Bogut

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

What is the fascination with Green? There is a chance he will be a great player sooner rather than later, but right now he is an 18-year developing his game and not up to playing at the Olympics.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Delly can't handle PG just look at World Cup. Mills a more pure PG. Simmons better utilised at the 4but can rotate to PG.

Who would you take over Exum? He’s a lock.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Bolden and Adel are in the G league, Adel getting very few minutes and lots dnp. It's a shit team and won’t go anywhere but stick to your fantasy world.

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Kr  
Earlier this year

I've got

Simmons/delly
Mills/exum/Goulding
Ingles/broekoff
Landale/ kay/ creek/ maker/bolden (3 of)
Barnes/ bogut

Goulding deserves his spot after a solid World Cup and can be a real difference maker off the bench. Exum to talented and versatile not to have a spot. Cotton although a super talent if naturalised has no history with the team so no chance for me.

It’s the 4 spot that is the most wide open for me, landale and Kay we’re both great at the World Cup, As was creek at times. Bolden and maker haven’t really taken the next step up imo and bolden pulling the pin on the World Cup was a big mistake and leaves him on the outer

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Tribe  
Earlier this year

Cotton MUST play if naturalised. I just don't think he’l be naturalised in time, I think the process takes a few years, look at Tai Wesley for example.
Hypothetically though, he’d be on court when Mills is on bench. Simple.
(I’m from Melb so don’t call me a bias cats fan)

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I now think Cotton needs to be a lock too if he can play. He's the closest thing we have to Patty Mills in terms of style. While we have a lot of great shooters and offensive players, no one besides Mills has that ability to consistently create something out of nothing when required.


Honestly think Cotton will be one of our best performers at Tokyo if he plays.

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Perthworld's big brother  
Earlier this year

I'm picking 8 players to start with
Simmons, Dellavedova
Mills,
Ingles, Broekhoff
Landale,
Baynes, Bogut

Cotton if available gets in over Goulding for me.
Exum if healthy will probably get in.
Josh Green is a chance but might need an injury from someone else to get in.
Power forward is the hardest to pick. Thon Maker could be ok as backup 4/5. Motum won't get in.
Kay still a chance but would be as 11/12 man.
Bolden hasn't shown he should be in.
Adel will NOT make it.

Cotton the X factor in the prime of his career. Simmons can play 1 or 4.

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Tribe  
Earlier this year

Simmons / Exum / Delly
Mills / Cotton*
Ingles / Broekhoff
Landale / Maker / Bolden
Baynes / Bogut

*Goulding for Cotton if citizenship doesn't come in time

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KET  
Earlier this year

I wouldn't have Maker or Bolden in my Olympic 10/12 man roster.

*controversial*

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KET  
Earlier this year

Simmons / Exum / Delly
Mills / Cotton/Goulding
Ingles / Broekhoff
Landale / Kay
Baynes / Bogut


Simmons height allows for an extra guard over an extra big.

If given a 13th spot, Motum would be my guy IMO.

Haven't been following him, so we expect Cooks to be fighting with Cotton/Goulding on account of his three point shooting capability?

I think Green will be too young.

When you’ve got Simmons driving and drawing defenders, our three point shooting will be absolutely critical. Following that, dogged offensive rebounders will be critical: Landale, Kay

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Maker, Deladova, Bolden, have not done anything all season and Broekhoff has been injured lately but got lots dnp before injuries.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Cook is shooting at 13% from three point land, should not be ahead of a fit Mitch Creek. Creek much better defensively as well.

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PlaymakerMo  
Earlier this year

test

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KET  
Earlier this year

This is where it gets very tough.

In the World Cup we saw Kay, Goulding and Creek all playing well. If you add in Cotton it becomes very hard to pick.

While defence is important, three point shooting is just so critical to take advantage of Simmons and Mills.

Where there's an argument for Bolden is our team doesn’t have athleticism which makes it hard against some of the more athletic African nations. We found it harder than we should have in the WC.

But the best teams aside from US are Eastern European which requires the Baynes types

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ME  
Earlier this year

I'd like to see Cotton on the team. You'd have one of him and Mills on court at all times and that would make us very tough to stop.

I'd go for something like KETs team

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

What's the latest news on Cottons citizenships? Is it in motion? Has anyone heard anything?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I think 2023/24 team will be much easier to pick.
No Delly, Goulding, Mills, ingles, Broekhoff, Baynes or Bogut.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

From The West this week re: Cotton citizenship:

"Cotton has applied for Australian citizenship but said he had not received any updates on his application's progress.

New Boomers coach Brett Brown is also yet to make contact but Cotton said he’d love to represent Australia at the Olympics if given that opportunity."

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Goulding? Fuck off

Barring injuries, we'll have too many players for the backcourt as it is. Last thing we need is a one-trick pony like Bubbles.

Besides, if we do need another shooter, Cotton is twice the player.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

" Bolden and Adel are in the G league, Adel getting very few minutes and lots dnp. It's a shit team and won't go anywhere but stick to your fantasy world."

THEY ARE STILL BETTER ALL NBL PLAYERS EXCEPT BOGUT, CREEK.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Rubbish.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Kyrie would be handy in the guard spot.

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Perthworld's big brother  
Earlier this year

Bolden would do well in the NBL.
I don't see the fuss about Adel maybe he would be good off some teams bench.

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Perthworld's big brother  
Earlier this year

Last Olympics for Bogut, Baynes, Ingles, Mills and Dellavedova most likely would be good to see them get a medal.

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Air Delay  
Earlier this year

My 2 cents...

Simmons
Mills / Cotton
Ingles / Brokehoff
Creek / Landale
Baynes / Bogut

Delly 10th man for inspiration & limited minutes.
Goulding on Boomers past performance at 11th.
Then Kay, Motum, Cooks or Exum sneaks that last spot backing up the bench.

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Just Another Poster  
Earlier this year

Mills will still be around for 2024. He'd only be 35/36 when that takes place and with the mpg he's logging with the spurs he should still be plenty fresh by the time that rolls around.

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rjd  
Earlier this year

"Cotton has applied for Australian citizenship but said he had not received any updates on his application's progress."

Not surprised by this. The Australian citizenship process provides no feedback, no contact information, taking months to years, until it is either accepted or rejected. BA ought to explore finding an inside contact who might know something about the application, or even somehow get it prioritized. It'd be in the national interest, of course. Cotton subbing for Mills would be massive. The on-off splits for Mills were big in the World Cup.

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ME  
Earlier this year

"THEY ARE STILL BETTER ALL NBL PLAYERS EXCEPT BOGUT, CREEK.

"

And you know that by what, all the G League all stars who've come here and struggled?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Floppin's impact for the Boomers is being exaggerated. Unless he can bring the Perth Arena ref's with him to Tokyo we should stop this obsession with pretending this yank is an aussie and focus on which actual Australian we should take to wear the green & gold. I could understand the hoo haa if it was Kyrie Irving but not for Nyce Floppin.

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robt  
Earlier this year

rjd, reckon Dutton's the man and Cotton should apply as an au pair.

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Captain Jack  
Earlier this year

Not many G League stars have come here and struggled

In fact most of them are big success ie Cotton, Jackson, Prather, Long, even Creek etc, etc

In most cases G League stats translate very well to NBL and they have more guys of this Cotton, etc level than the NBL does.

Sure there have been a couple of failures, but overall, recruiting guys who have put up good numbers in the G League is successful for the NBL clubs.

I personally would put the Aussies who play in the G League above most NBL players without NBA or Euroleague experience from a boomers point of view, especially guys like Adel who have had a sniff of NBA experience, to a similar level of Creek who is the NBL star anyway and would likely be of similar level to Creek.

Id much rather pick guys like Deng Adel over Cam Gliddon and Cooks type NBL players, in the end Adel is a 6'7 very athletic wing, averaging 12p, 3a, 5r and a good defender in the Gleague, and out performing those Giddon, Cooks, Barlow types of Aussies who are in the NBL. The fact those guys got picked ahead of Adel was a big failing,and a big reason why Lemanis had to go.

So I would look a little deeper with the G League players are garbage thinking. Quick example compare Creek and Cottons NBL and G League stats.

In general anyone with NBA or Euroleague experience should be picked ahead of NBL players without it, even if they are currently in the G League

My Team for Tokyo

Bayens/Bogut
Bolden/Maker/Landlae
Ingles/Creek/Broekhoff
Mills/Exum
Simmons/Delly

Humphries, Mathiang,Adel, Bairstow, Motum, Goulding, Kay, Green, Cotton (if naturalised in time) maybe Sobey, M-White, Noi should be pretty much the only other players considered if guys are unavailable.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Noi. Lmao, Cairns have performed better with out him, his +/- is terrible.

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Captain Jack  
Earlier this year

I only mention Noi as a maybe camp invite, due to his youth, length and athleticism.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Guys with genuine potential should absolutely be involved in the larger camps to give them a taste of Boomers ball and some motivation to keep developing. Just being around guys like Mills & Ingles for a few days would be amazing.

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Hoopie  
Earlier this year

Given that the coronavirus is starting to shut sporting events down but that the Olympics is too big to shut down, I expect to see many of the top teams without their stars.

I can see a repeat of the WC where many of the top players stay away because of pressure from their agents or the NBA, which will result in a weaker USA team and the Boomers for example.

There will be a lot of sports executives hoping that a vaccine is found pretty damn quick, so that they don't have to make some hard decisions.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Simmons / Dellavedova
Mills / Cotton / Thybulle
Ingles / Broekhoff
Landale / Maker / (*Bolden, Kay, Cooks, Creek, 1 of) - maybe even Magnay.
Baynes / Bogut

Reserves
PG Exum
SG Goulding
SF *others above
PF *others above
C *others above

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Obviously you guys have not been following Makur in the nba this year, he has been given opportunities including the odd start and produced nothing. His plus, minus would be horrendous. Try and look at a bit form before putting names on a page.

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Brad.  
Earlier this year

Cotton would be great but yet to see proof of his naturalisation.

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Big Ads  
Earlier this year

I got a sneaky suspicion the vaccine will be released just in time to save the Olympics. Say mid May.

(shit, tin foil hat just blew off!!!! Damn it!)

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robt  
Earlier this year

An anon wrote: "Landale / Maker / (*Bolden, Kay, Cooks, Creek, 1 of) - maybe even Magnay."

Is it that you don't like Magnay's game enough or just feel he is too inexperienced? IMhO, the way he has developed and played this season puts him just behind Landale in the rotation.

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ME  
Earlier this year

A lot of water has to pass under the bridge between then and now. Ben Simmons' injury "shouldn't" be a factor but could be. The coronavirus could see the event even straight out cancelled. Injuries. Contract situations. Anything could conspire to constrict the team, as it often does.

If all went perfectly well and the basketball gods smile upon us we will once again have a team in the hunt for a medal. Whether Brett Brown is actually going to do a better job than Lemanis is up for debate with the only clear edge being Simmons' involvement, and even that is questionable at this point.

MY team:

Ben Simmons
Patty Mills
Joe Ingles
Jock Landale
Aron Baynes

Dante Exum
Mattise Thybulle
Ryan Broekhoff
Thon Maker
Andrew Bogut
Nick Kay
Bryce Cotton

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Brad.  
Earlier this year

I like your team ME.
Though some will scoff at the omission of Dellavedova.

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ME  
Earlier this year

It would seem like sacrilege to leave him out, but with his three point shooting and form right now he'd probably be a liability. I'd put him in camp and see if he can step up but I wouldn't bank on it. I think he's had his best days.

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UseTaHoop  
Earlier this year

Coronavirus:

Just a thought.

IFF a vaccine is developed, Will trials/camps need to be delayed.

Vaccinations often impair athletic performance for a short period (a week is quite common).

The high IQ/ low athleticism players would be less impacted, but those relying on athleticism more would underperform.

The vaccination factor may impact on a lot of elite sports.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

A vaccine is still a long way off

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

If our best aren't available the following can fill in at short notice;

Cadee
Teys (capt)
Blanchfield
Majok Deng
Andersen

Adnam
Dillon
White
Drmic
Krzlovic
Jawai
Luke Nevill.

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ME  
Earlier this year

Apparently the decision will be made by May as to whether it stays going ahead. That is two to three months within which to contain this spread a bit.

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robt  
Earlier this year

Quote: "If our best aren't available the following can fill in at short notice;"

Isn't that a bit lambs-to-the-slaughter?

If our best aren't available it will be cos they don't want to die!

So, what your saying, Anon 266, is "Thanks, and R.I.P." to the following;

Cadee
Teys (capt)
Blanchfield
Majok Deng
Andersen

Adnam
Dillon
White
Drmic
Krzlovic
Jawai
Luke Nevill.

Good one!

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Chill pill robot.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

It was pretty silly #266

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Shane Heal  
Two months ago

Here's my team with approximate minutes
PG: Simmons 28
SG: Mills 27
SF: Thybulle 24
PF: Ingles 25
C: Baynes 25
BPG: Dellavedova 15
BSG: Goulding 0
BSF: Broekhoff 20
BPF: Kay 8
BC: Bogut 15
BN: Cotton 13
BN: Landale 0

If Bogut looks sluggish, Landale/Kay (in small ball 5 role) takes his minutes. If Thybulle isn't hitting corner 3's Broekhoff takes his starting spot. One of Mills/Cotton on court at all times (never together). Ingles/Delly play Point when Simmons off court.

Standby: Exum, Goulding, Creek, Maker, Bolden

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Shane H I actually quite like it which is unusual for anything that comes out of Heals mouth.

I would take Exum ahead of Goulding if he's healthy though.

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