Wendy Byrd
Years ago

Should United sign Machado and Oliver next year?

We know United's strategy in the past has been to buy some of the bigger name players in the league. Splashy signings so to speak. This year with long and Trimble it didn't work.

But I could see them returning to contention next year if they sign Machado and Oliver as direct replacements. What do you think?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

No doubt they will try...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

No Cairns should

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Hope they stay at Cairns.

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GordonG47  
Years ago

Melbourne could do something radical - like find their own players for a change.

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Anon  
Years ago

Since when has cairns become and recruiters for United.

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Perthworld  
Years ago

They'll go after Kelly for coach as well.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

If it happens, so be it, but it would be terrible for the league

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Wendy Byrd  
Years ago

"Since when has cairns become and recruiters for United."

Well they did sign Trimble and also previously McCarron

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Luuuc  
Years ago

They should go after Paul Smith as owner too

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Go Dees  
Years ago

Don't forget newbill he BV the perfect second or third import. Newbill legit

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Anonymous  
Years ago

They should do their own scouting.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Oliver won't be back in the NBL. He'll be in Europe or maybe even get a shot on an NBA bench.

I definitely think Machado will be back, although I doubt it will be Cairns.

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Perth might have a crack at signing Machado.
Would be good if he stays at Cairns though.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Genuine question - why didn't Casper resign with Melbourne? Was it purely $?

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Zodiac  
Years ago

Because the GM (Crivelli) is said to have told Casper he was the highest paid player on the team only for Casper to find out that DJ Kennedy actually was.

When Casper signed with Sydney the United GM came out publicly and said they offered Casper the highest contract in team history and he still left anyway.

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KET  
Years ago

That makes them both look bad

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Jack Toft  
Years ago

United will have a crack, but Machado and Oliver would be stupid if they went there.

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Zodiac  
Years ago

Dollars talk especially for the younger ones. Look at Trimble took the money at Melbourne and now he's been exposed and buggered up his career a bit at least here in Australia.

I've got a feeling Machado might not be as easily swayed as say Oliver might be but yeah Melbourne will try and poach them as they always do.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

What kind of coin was offered to Casper by united to retain him?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Melbourne would not have to sign players from other teams if Sydney (Ware, Moller, Blatchfield) and Adelaide (Moore, Dillon) did not take theirs. Lets ignore Perth poaching both Norton and Kay in the SAME offseason, not separate like McCarron and Trimble. Or Brisbane signing Craig and Trice. Stupid salty thread.

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KET  
Years ago

Get them to Radelaide

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Melbourne should replace as many players as possible. They do that every off season and it seems to be working well for them. Building up chemistry between players over a number of years is clearly overrated.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Melbourne pinched Moller from Sydney, he left same time as Ware due to wanting go home.

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6er  
Years ago

When your GM can't be trusted, what do you expect of player culture? Lying to players in a small league like the NBL backfires, and quickly.

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Machado over Randle.
Oliver over Griffin.

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Machado over Randle.
Oliver over Griffin.

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D2.0  
Years ago

It happens, and its not just MU. I'm surprised it doesn't happen more.

Oliver is versatile, and fits in well in the NBL. Not sure how he would go in Europe??
And I think he is undersized for the NBA.
He's had a breakout season here, and it would be good to see him stick around.

I think that's what the league should use the tax/subsidy for. Keeping quality players at the lesser clubs. Agree to pay a portion of his salary if he stays at Cairns.

Machado is a different story, but seems a good fit for them, so I'd still like to see him stick around.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I can't believe how bad Melbourne have performed this season, on paper they should be favourites.

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Tribe  
Years ago

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Tribe, I couldn't agree more.

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Tribe  
Years ago

I'd rather Melbourne change their coach rather than overhaul the playing list and replace the imports.

Think most would disagree with me but I wouldn’t mind United backing Trimble and keeping him next season. He’s still very young and will improve with this year under his belt.

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LV  
Years ago

United should sign the best Australians and then look for imports who complement them.

Who's already locked in for United next year?

McCarron is in the 2nd yr of a 3 yr deal I believe.

Who else?

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Lovebroker  
Years ago

Offer Barlow another contract....He has a 7 year old boy therefore can never leave. Melbourne

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Anonymous  
Years ago

That's not how United operate though, they bring in big money imports a few big name Australians, McCarron, Goulding, Barlow and then cheapies.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Goulding to Tassie!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Keep Trimble and long + a gun import get rid of Goulding bring in a team player and start looking for a new coach.

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Zodiac  
Years ago

Who else?


Prather, McCarron & Ili that's it I think. Although Prather is likely a team option so doubt he will be back.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Pledger is also signed, but contracts don't mean much. If a player is unhappy the club won’t keep him and if the club is unhappy they tell the player to look elsewhere or they will spend a lot time on the bench.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Trimble and Long were considered gun imports, I'd imagine there wage packets match gun imports status.

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Hoopie  
Years ago

Big clean-out needed at the DisUnited. Replace Crivelli with someone with a better mindset than throwing money at the latest fad players, someone who can build a genuine positive culture.

Replace Vickerman, with Bevo perhaps.

Upgrade Long with someone who plays well at both ends. Prather and TSM to go, regardless. Don't know about Kidd yet.

Keep Trimble, McCarron, Pledger and Illi. Keep Goulding only if there’s a new coach who can use him better.

Replace the rest with some promising youth and a few experienced hard workers.

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KET  
Years ago

Nah LV, Adelaide should sign the best Australians and THEN the best imports

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KET  
Years ago

Hoopie, Melbourne United is the Real Madrid of the NBL.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

^what are you talking about?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Oliver being 23 should go on to greener pastures overseas. Hope the snakes can hang on to Machado and Newbill.

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KET  
Years ago

"throwing money at the latest fad players" = Real Madrid

Spend big, fail at culture/chemistry and fail to win it all

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Simon Cowell  
Years ago

That's a no from me.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

i wonder if Vince still kisses Larry K on the cheek every time they meet? This will be a factor if he keeps his job. Jobs for the boys.

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Lovebroker  
Years ago

Love it when people like to abuse Vince.

Where were you when Vince constructed a championship and another GF team?

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Hoopie  
Years ago

He gambled; it worked. His approach won't always work, and sometimes a different approach might be needed.

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proud  
Years ago

Isn't it funny that the league attracts players like Trimble and Demetrius Conger and they go to regional teams and help them win by implementing a me first mentality and then when they go to capital city clubs that have or should have far more resources and they get found out their stock drastically drops.

I don't hate on either of those two as the league needs a mixture of imports and the me first imports can be heroes in kids eyes as they are fun to watch.

As for United, it's good to see that they are being tested just so we can see what LK will do about it... can you imagine a playoff series without a Victorian side after the entry of a club from the heartland!
It won't be any less exciting but how much it is all promoted intrigues me... best season ever surely deserves strong well attended playoff series WITH live commentary inside each arena pretty please.

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Todd  
Years ago

Melbourne need to look at the right fit than the best player.

Too many players who need to have ball in hand to be effective.

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Reality  
Years ago

United should try for all 3 Cairns guys!

DJ Newbill is under the radar but he'd be bloody good to get.

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