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Earlier this year

U18 boys Nationals

Anyone at the U18's boys championships? The results aren't up and I would love to know how the teams are going. Any thoughts on who is the front runner?

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Aussie  
Earlier this year

Live stats and live streams can be found at the Basketball Australia website

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Aussie  
Earlier this year

Alex Toohey (ACT) and Tyrese Proctor (NSW Metro) have been the two best players I have seen at the tournament so far

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Given they have both played for the Boomers you would expect that.

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Scout  
Earlier this year

Good start to the tournament by Lochie Bochie, Luke Brown and Brewer from Tassie who had strong win against SA Metro yesterday (who seemed very surprised to not be flogging Tas and had some very unhappy players and supporters).

Yep I'm showing my allegiances!

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Ant Man  
Earlier this year

Lauchie Boucher is in Hobart mate. I assume you mean Callum Boucher. #bleedgreen

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Scout  
Earlier this year

Yes Ant Man - my mistake.


Have been concerns re temperament but he is channeling it well at the Nationals.

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Anon  
Earlier this year

Go Tassie boys. So glad they beat SA.

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Scout  
Earlier this year

Tassie played well against a very big and talented Queensland South, if they took their chances would have won.

Credit to coach Nathan Brereton, Brown, Biwer and Harwood played well for Tas.

The two Queensland bigs were the difference.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Good coach Brereton, has high basketball iq. Him stewie would have been great for the Jacks. Total waste tasie talent.

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Him stewie would have been great for the Jacks.

Persistent, aren't you?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Who is persistent? Might finally get a team into the top 10. He hasn't ever done that yet.

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Scout  
Earlier this year

This thread is about Under 18 boys nationals.


Pleased with how Tassie is going, who else are going well.....the usuals Vic and NSW Metro?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

You are right, Brereton is a fine coach though.

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Scout  
Earlier this year

Yes he is a fine coach, doing great stuff in the Under 18 Mens Nationals that will hold him with great respect going forward no doubt. Moved from the South to take up the role in the North....covered his bases.

Some big egos in that team and to get them to play as a team Brereton has done damn well.

Great for the CV.

Who do Tassie play next?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Brereton has never taken any Tassie side afaik into the top 10 previously.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Interested to know if there are many injuries coming through at this level. Noticed a number of stress related injuries at lower age groups, coming into seasons after a year off competition.

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Scout  
Earlier this year

Anon #363

Looks like he will this time.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Be very interesting to see how crossovers shake out. Nothing separating the top 3 in Pool A. Absolutely amazing what the year off has done to the Vics. From 30-point grand final winners right back to the pack, and Vic Country from a silver medal to (probably) out of the top 8. Makes it the most wide-open tournament in ages.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Kayo Freebies - you can watch without an account - or just sign up for a month free and you can watch all the games on court 1.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Scout. If you kiss enough frogs you might find a prince.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

#503 and if you talk enough bullshit people might believe you.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

That's inciteful.

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Results  
Earlier this year

Not sure the Vic Metro have the best 10 playing. That could be why they are not killing everyone. Good team but I hear that the coach who is from Eltham selected 3 Eltham players. However Eltham have been beaten in grading and the first game of season. Perhaps a broader look at the talent would have helped.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Big contributors Missing from u16 side are

Pierre
Amum

Also missing

Foxwell


Where are these guys?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

There's always chat that so and so got left out or there are better players left behind, especially for the Vics. Usually they win anyway, that's why this year is interesting.

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Scout  
Earlier this year

Let me guess anon #503 is a basketball person / coach in the south of Tasmania who loves having a crack at others and may still be playing A reserve

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

No Scout. Brereton has been to many championships and perhaps with the talent he has this time they may make the top 10.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Yes you need talent as you say, but Brereton is a good coach, did he beat you to the job or did your son miss out, let it go.

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Scout  
Earlier this year

Well said # 539, some weird bitter posting going on.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Tas has less than 10% of population of Vic and a third of the population of SA. Punching above weight, I'd suggest.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

So Tassie only have to beat NSW country to make the medal rounds fro here?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

It would be a huge achievement, certainly not there yet though.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Further proof Radford is the best high performance manager going around.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

#552 you're forgetting that Tas plays Nationals against SA Country not SA. Safe to say the population of all of Tasmania is larger than Country SA given the overwhelming majority of South Aussies live in the Metro area.

Still a great result and high praise for Radford is warranted.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

588 Tasmania played and defeated SA Metro you Pinhead

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Cool but that's not what the comment said was it. SA and Vic. Just pointing out Tas isn't playing against SA or Vic.

Clearly agreed Radford derserved credit for the result. Given SA has Butler who failed in this role already SA basketball has an issue of their own.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Brereton knows more than Radford already, not certain he deserves credit.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

#600 thanks for mentioning some SA people live in the country.

There are 1.3m people in SA Metro (1.8 in the State). There are 540k people in the whole of Tasmania. Also, Tas population is older.

You get the point, though don't you? They have less kids to choose from. And they are beating more populous states.

Anyway, just think they are doing well. And I am not from Tas.

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RMG  
Earlier this year

588, well done on making a complete tool of yourself

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Tasmania missed out on the top 8 with a 2-3 record they would see that as a fail I'm thinking .

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Considering Brereton suggested top 8, yes.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Tassie haven't made the top 8, a lot of posts above getting too worked up about one good win. The final finish will be pretty standard, and posts are even stranger when you consider that last u18 Nationals, the Tassie boys finished 4th. If your point is that this group has come together better than expected and played well, that's great. They can do well for who they are as a group without being better than other teams here or at previous events.

The group that's outperformed their talent pool here is the ACT boys, with the very narrow losses to Vic Metro and NSW Metro even more impressive than the top-8 finish.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Tas still trying to justify changes they had to have. If this group was going to perform well Radford would have been coach.
Just like he is coaching under 20s.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Well once Radford is allegedly appointed to the Jack Jumpers it will be all theoretical I guess.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Tasmania 541k

Adelaide 1.376m

SA Country 396k

Tas average age 42, SA 40.

WA Country 531k

ACT 431k

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Population isn't the only challenge in getting a good team on the floor. NSW lag behind the Vics because of the ridiculously high Vic participation rate. Metro sides and ACT are generally at an advantage compared to Country sides, NT, and Qld North because it's much easier to train together in preparation.

This is why it's generally pointless to laud a team's effort in overcoming a single disadvantage. You don't know which team lost a key starter 3 weeks out and had to bring a reserve, which teams have colds, which kid is playing through injury or any of that. Just be happy for them that they're there and learning useful stuff.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Wow. Imagine if Tasmania lose to WA country now. Last.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Population in one factor, participation another. But neither produce elite basketballers on their own.

A good culture, professional staff and peak body, proactive and positive clubs/associations, facilities fit for need, competition structure that balances elite, participation and burnout, high quality coaching, high quality refereeing, high quality high performance programs as well as programs accessible to all irrespective of sex, race, sexual preference or socio-econimic status.

It's complex.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Anyone have a link to the U20 SA teams?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

WA Metro doing a number on Vic Metro. WA Met taking both Vic teams throughout the week.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Vic men teams have just been terrible.

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Nbl fan  
Earlier this year

Just shows what 9 months not playing does to players.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

No Vic Mens medal
picking favourites
coaches and players
not picking the best
does that to a state.
hahaha

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

More shows that the Vic metro machine is largely based on their weekly tough league. Take that away and this is what you have.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Vic Metro team has finally realised that the old school method of drive heavy and relying on your athletic prowess doesn't work in the new era of spacing and shooting 3s. The other states are just coached better and with better game plans and adjustments.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

WA beat Vic country with 5/27 18% for 3s and Vic Metro with 3/25 12% for 3s so not sure spacing and shooting 3s beat them!!

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Results  
Earlier this year

Vic's coach picking three from his club has potentially cost them a chance at the medal. If Eltham have three state players they should be killing all other VC sides. They have lost to clubs that have no state players.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

They didn't shoot well sure, but the fact they were taking them made Vic M close out that little bit harder, opening up the penetration for WA M, leading to dump passes for the bigs or forcing those extra rotations.

Space and shooting 3s has more benefits then just making more threes.
Let’s also mention that 13 of Vic M three points attempts came in the last 5 minutes of the game. 35 minutes before that it was a low post game with heavy driving into traffic.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

And another trade off of WA m shooting more 3s, more longer rebounds which suited their athletic guards really well.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

good tactic, never thought to miss more 3s so you have a better change of getting long rebounds!

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Really missing the point there #803.

Vics usually so dominant, I'm sure many will take the chance to gloat, but attributing their results this week to anything other than the devastating impact of lockdowns last year is a cheap shot. I'm not Victorian, but this is a blip. Every criticism - their style of play is outdated, the coach played favourites with kids from his club, etc. - is one that you could make every year, and they still win like 90% of gold medals.

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Reg  
Earlier this year

Metro and Country Men from the games I seen were horrible,coaching and selection must play some part in this,but game style was very unexciting,over coached to the point of boring,thank god Vic Country had Stevens,he looks like he would be right at home in the mid field of an AFL club,

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

And simply attributing Vic's poor performance to lockdowns is making excuses.
They win 90% of the gold medals because they have the overwhelming talent advantage and much more depth, without question.
But the trend over the last few years hasn’t been a good one for Victoria. It’s not just this year, they’ve dropped a few gold medals in the last few years and the interstate clubs dominated the top half of club nationals at 14s.

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Sixers  
Earlier this year

I find it amusing that some guy on here, not that long ago, was posting how much advanced Victorian basketball is compared to the rest of the country. Yet here they are flopping which shows with all the facilities, huge numbers and apparently expert coaches, that they are actually under achieving in reality.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

SA Country boys to finish bottom

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Sixers you're a fool. One year. Their huge size has actually now become a weakness. With the talent spread so thin they're forced to run a 20 team VC. Since that decision their state teams have suffered.

Jealousy is an ugly thing mate.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

When was the last time a boy's Vic Metro team didn't win a medal at 18s?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

2015, #819. Glory age group for NSW with sensational Illawarra and Hills sides forming the core of excellent Country and Metro teams, respectively.

Who's going to win it this year? WA Metro seem in good form but ACT's second half made Qld South look like they were playing in the wrong age group. NSW Metro undefeated so far, but Qld North got a head start on recovery and the pool game was a nail-biter.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Participation rates are the enemy of Elite down here.

Too many bean counters who want the same opportunities for all.

It waters down competition.

Iron sharpens Iron = Kids get better playing and training with and against the best kids.

Chuck would be rolling in his grave.

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Wow  
Earlier this year

2018 - WA Metro

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

#826, question was medal, not championship. Vic Met took bronze in '18.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

2006 the Vics played off for 5th and 6th

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Anthony Stewart would have done much better with that TAS team

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Vic Metro finished 4th in Ballarat in 2015.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Gold - Qld North
Silver - NSW Metro
Bronze - WA Metro

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

^^^^^
Impossible to have that finishing order considering NSW Met play Qld North in a semi final today.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Heads at BV Basketball Operations should roll.

First one to go should be Grant Wallace. The fish rots at the head. Forget the COVID impact. BV has a rich history and one that should demand excellence. All coach selections and athletes are signed off by Grant. He failed in his job therefore should be shown the door.

Next on the list should be all 4 BV High Performance Coaches. New idea's and game styles needed. All of them are struck in the early 2000's.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

An embarrassment when you consider all of the government money they had and establishing well paid part time HUB roles.

All for what?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

870, you're a fool. Grant does a good job. Vic Metro Girls undefeated and Vic Country Girls playing for a medal. I have a kid in the HP program (not in one of the State Teams) and those 4 HP coaches are exceptional people, ang great modern innovative coaches. Remember they've really only been in their jobs for 1yr. The Coaches selected what they thought would do the job. They got it wrong.

I would however suggest that club coaches coaching in that age group are not eligible to coach a state team.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Very humorous to see people to calling for people to lose their job over placings at a 15/16 year olds basketball tournament.

If the kids weren't cared for or developed to move on to the next level (senior basketball) I may get on board the idea but seriously over the results of one Nationals come on.

Would love to see how many of the warriors on here would fare if we got to scrutinise and see results from your job!

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

875 I don't reckon too many of them have jobs....

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Hey Sixers
You're pretty quiet now
Vic Metro just sat SA Metro boys on their asses
9months of no basketball and you still can’t beat them
Now run along and wipe the egg off your stupid face.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Amazing result for the ACT boys. No question Toohey is the best prospect in that team but he's had plenty of support. A group that could have torn itself apart with ego gets a well-deserved reward for figuring out how to lift each other up.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

105, as much as Sixers gets on this forum and makes a fool of himself on a regular basis, this time it's you who looks kind of stupid.

Vic Metro just finished fifth and you're here talking it up because they beat SAM on the last day? Wow.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

SA basketball stopped for couple of weeks
Victoria basketball stopped for nearly a year
But you're right, even with a terrible preparation Victoria will still see 5th as a major failure.
That mindset is what sets them apart from the rest of the country.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

You're one strange individual.
I'm sure your points sound better in your head than when we have to read them.

Anyway, congratulations on the amazing 5th place achievement. Enjoy your celebrations.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Hahah! Vic Metro finishing 5th despite the most talented talent pool by far, and someone still talks down a team they beat. Maybe if they stopped being so arrogant and actually coached their athletes and caught up with the modern game style they might see some success again.

I predict another stuff up at 16s.

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Anon  
Earlier this year

WA Met clearly the best team over the whole week. Only team not to be blown out (lost 2 by a combined total of 8 points, and it took SA Met overtime to get there). Spaced the best, ball moved and defensively easily the best team over the whole week. Well deserved Gold Medal winners.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Wa metro u18 level on the mens side pretty strong it seems last few years.

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Chill  
Earlier this year

I keep hearing that some of SA metro's best players elected not to play. Does anyone know an explicit reason why?
Cheers and congratulations to WA metro for a very well played tournament

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