Groote
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U14 Club Nationals 2023

WA Qualifiers held today. Teams that qualified were:

Boys
Lakeside Lightning
Warwick Senators
Perry Lakes Hawks

Girls
Willetton Tigers
Joondalup Wolves
Warwick Senators

Nationals to be held at Casey Basketball Association, VIC from Sept 22-28

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Pinch  
Last year

Plus Nunawading and Casey get a spot for defending champs and host.

Pretty sure SA just had the National qualifiers as well.

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Holdup  
Last year

So Willetton men have missed out for a 2nd year running? What the hell is going on with their juniour program on the mens side?

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ballermum  
Last year

South Australia

Girls

Sturt
Norwood
Forestville

Boys

South
Forestville
Norwood

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

2023 NATIONAL JUNIOR CLASSIC - QUALIFYING TEAMS

UNDER-12 BOYS

Bankstown

Broadmeadows

Canberra

Casey

Coburg

Dandenong

Diamond Valley

Frankston

Kilsyth

North Adelaide

Northern Suburbs

Norwood Flames

Sandringham

Sturt Sabres

Sydney

Traralgon

UNDER-12 GIRLS

Bulleen

Canberra

Casey

Dandenong

Forestville

Frankston

Kilsyth

Melbourne Girls

Newcastle

North Adelaide

Norwood Flames

Nunawading

Sandringham

South Adelaide

Sutherland

Warrnambool

UNDER-14 BOYS

Camberwell

Casey

Dandenong

Eltham

Forestville

Geelong United

Hills Hornets

Hornsby

Keilor

Melbourne Boys

Newcastle

Norwood Flames

Nunawading

South Adelaide

Southern Tigers

Warragul

UNDER-14 GIRLS

Bendigo

Broadmeadows

Camberwell

Canberra

Diamond Valley

Forestville

Frankston

Illawarra

Kilsyth

Moe

Norwood Flames

Nunawading

Penrith

Sandringham

Sturt Sabres

West Adelaide

UNDER-16 BOYS

Bankstown

Casey

Dandenong

Eastern Mavericks

Forestville

Frankston

Kilsyth

Knox

Manly

Northern Suburbs

Nunawading

Sandringham

South Adelaide

Sunbury

Sydney

Woodville

UNDER-16 GIRLS

Canberra

Casey

Dandenong

Eastern Mavericks

Forestville

Frankston

Geelong United

Kilsyth

Manly

Melbourne Girls

Newcastle

North Adelaide

Norwood Flames

Nunawading

Sandringham

Sydney

UNDER-18 MEN

Casey

Dandenong

Illawarra

Keilor

Kilsyth

Knox

Manly

Melbourne Boys

North Adelaide

Norwood Flames

Sandringham

Southern Tigers

Sturt Sabres

Sydney

Wodonga

Wyndham

UNDER-18 WOMEN

Bulleen

Casey

Dandenong

Eastern Mavericks

Forestville

Hills Hornets

Keilor

Kilsyth

Knox

Korumburra

Manly

Melbourne Girls

Northern Suburbs

Norwood Flames

Sandringham

West Adelaide

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

^ be interesting to see how those u14 teams match up early

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Groote  
Last year

Slug this has nothing to do with Junior Classic #Facepalm

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Groote  
Last year

@Holdup

Have to agree. The once powerful Willetton boys program has definitely lost its way in recent years. Brad Robbins' Lynx commitments have to come into question as to how much it's affecting him able to fulfill his ability as Willetton High Performance Manage, to continue to develop those juniors which is clearly not being done at the moment. On the girls side they will always have an advantage when they get the likes of Narelle Black and Robyn Winter as their coaches in U12 & U14. Great to see Lakeside qualify in what has to be the first time they've attempted from memory? Warwick with both teams qualifying shows how much they are continuing to close the gap with Willetton in the younger age groups. Shawn Redhage as head coach of the Perry Lakes boys will add some star power for BA to the tournament.

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

I'm aware it’s not club champs but they match up early at the njc.

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Interpreter  
Last year

What teams qualified for U14 club champs from Victoria? I've seen posts from Eltham and Dandenong already.

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LC  
Last year

BA's U14 qualification policy:

Maximum of 24 Australian State/Territory teams are eligible:
- New South Wales - 4 teams
- Queensland – 3 teams
- South Australia – 3 teams
- Tasmania – 2 teams
- Victoria – 4 teams
- Western Australia – 3 teams
- Australian Capital Territory – 1 team
- Northern Territory – 2 teams
- Host Venue – 1 team

• The remaining position is allocated to the state of the previous year's champion.
• Any vacancies caused by non acceptance, will be allocated to the States/Territories in the finishing order of the States/Territories from the previous year’s Championship (excluding first place).
• No States/Territory will be allocated a second extra team until all States/Territories have declined an extra team

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LC  
Last year

So Nunawading's 2022 Champion boys and girls teams do not get automatic entry - it just means that VIC got another team entry in the boy's and girls' divisions as a result of Victorian teams winning last year.

Nunawading had to qualify their teams for the 2023 event in accordance with BV's U14 nationals' policy

The allocation given to Basketball Victoria includes one automatic invitation that Basketball Victoria extend to the winner of the Country Victorian Championship (or similar) for that particular year.

All teams who compete in the Victorian Championship League are eligible to qualify under this selection criteria. Once BA has released the number of spots for Victorian teams, the bids will be extended to teams as follows

- 3 Positions Guaranteed: 1st Ashe, 1st Watson and BVC Country Championship Winner.
- 4 Positions Guaranteed: 1st Ashe, 1st Watson and BVC Country Championship Winner. Only if teams haven't played in Grading, a Challenge Match will be played to determine the final position. (2nd Ashe vs 2nd Watson)
- 5 Positions Guaranteed: Top Two in Ashe, Top Two in Watson and BVC Country Championship Winner.
- 6 Positions Guaranteed: Top Two in Ashe, Top Two in Watson and BVC Country Championship Winner. Only if teams haven’t played in Grading, a Challenge Match will be played to determine the final position. (3rd Ashe vs 3rd Watson)

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Billy Bob  
Last year

Wa qualification is abit Mickey Mouse. One day tournament with severely shortened games, rather than actual standings during their season and a cut off date

12 min halves running clock for one day. Standings in their state competition aren't taken into account .

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LC  
Last year

Victorian teams, both girls and boys are allocated as follows: 4 teams + Host + Reigning Champion = 6 Teams Each

U14 Girls - Victorian invitations:
1 - Casey (Host)
2 – Moe (Country Champion)
3 – Nunawading (1st Watson)
4 - Diamond Valley (2nd Watson)
5 – Kilsyth (1st Ashe)
6 – Sandringham (2nd Ashe)

U14 Boys - Victorian Invitations:
1 - Casey (Host)
2 - Warragul (Country Champion)
3 – Eltham (1st Watson)
4 – Nunawading (2nd Watson)
5 – Dandenong (1st Ashe)
6 – Keilor (2nd Ashe)

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+  
Last year

anyone that is in the know care to rank / seed the teams ?

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Interpreter  
Last year

Thanks LC. I read the qualification criteria you quoted but couldn't find the standings pre-VC Championship.

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Pinch  
Last year

NT won't take 2 teams so the other spot will go to QLD for the girls.

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koberulz  
Last year

Wa qualification is abit Mickey Mouse. One day tournament with severely shortened games, rather than actual standings during their season and a cut off date

12 min halves running clock for one day. Standings in their state competition aren't taken into account .
Does any state use regular-season standings? I thought they all did tournaments. I'm also fairly sure standings are taken into account, in terms of making sure pools are reasonably balanced.

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+  
Last year

It's about a team's ability to last a tournament = depth of a club / team. Playing once a week with 3 good players is not a reflection of a week of 1 or 2 games a day = 9-10 good players. Different goalposts

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Groote  
Last year

Billy Bob you are incorrect regarding timing for the tournament. It's two fully timed eight minute quarters, essentially half a wabl game. However I do agree it's very much a Mickey Mouse tournament. Yesterday you had several country teams who were thrashed every game, but then the boys teams coaches were heard saying we are here to develop. I personally think BWA need to step in and make a qualification rule for country teams that if they do not make semi finals in championship division at the previous years U13 state championships, then they can't nominate for the touring qualification tournament. That or get rid of the tournament completely and just make it the top 3 wabl U14 Championship Division teams after Week 9 once all teams have played each other once (Means BWA must ensure all teams play each other before halfway point of the season) and having that as the automatic rule using head to head wabl results as tiebreaker for teams with same win/loss record as of week 9 games being completed. Make wabl mean something early in the season

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LC  
Last year

VIC selections are based on existing tournaments (Country Cup) and VJBL Rounds 1-9 (standings).

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By the Sea  
Last year

Vic Teams are selected on regular season standings; Rounds 1-9

Kilsyth
Nunawading
Sandringham
Diamond Valley

Cant go past Kilsyth winning the gold in the girls section.

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LC  
Last year

In the girls, Kilsyth are definitely the favourites. However don't count out Nunawading. Spectres got to within 2 of them at the Eltham Tournament, and lost by the same margin to the Cobras in the final at the Adelaide Easter Classic.

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LC  
Last year

QLD teams should be announced after the state Championships:

U14 Boys
Townsville Basketball
25th - 28th June 2023

U14 Girls
Toowoomba Basketball
1st - 4th July 2023

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a5ian nbl fan  
Last year

When Nunawading girls are on they're on.
Casey girls not making this weekend's national thing is a shock

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Footloose  
Last year

Casey girls are woeful, their VC Reserve & won't be top 4 in VC Reserve. Shouldn’t be getting an auto entry

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a5ian nbl fan  
Last year

Yeahb but what I'm saying is like for their club I'm surprised they haven't done well

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Last year

as an incentive should they allow the previous years winners to host it ?

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By the Sea  
Last year

Nunawading stadium shouldn't host anything.
Worst stadium in Vic Metro.

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By the Sea  
Last year

Nunawading stadium shouldn't host anything.
Worst stadium in Vic Metro.

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Hoops66  
Last year

Re U 14 Qualifying teams for WA. I wholeheartedly agree that BWA should drop the 'qualifying' tournament. (Its a joke.) And simply make it the top 3 wabl U14 Championship Division teams after Week 9 once all teams have played each other once. So far, 8 games have been played. For the boys the results are:
Rockingham Flames: 8 wins 0 losses
Lakeside: 7 wins 1 loss
East Perth 5 wins 3 losses

(Perry Lakes Hawks and Warwick are both on 4 wins and 4 losses)

It seems a bit unfair to me that Rockingham in particular are missing out! It seems they have proven themselves over the long term (And I am NOT a Rockingham supporter.)

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LC  
Last year

Clear standouts for U14 girls at the NJC:

Kilsyth, Nunawading, Diamond Valley, Illawarra & Sandringham. The results reinforce that the right teams from VIC are going to nationals.

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Manders  
Last year

Nuna, Kilsyth, Frankston and Dandy all v good. As was Sandy - they have performed exceedingly well, and out-performed other nearby associations such as McKinnon (although they won junior programme of the year ... who picks this stuff?). Great quality tournament, and great to see such a mix of winners from Vic and across the country.

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hoopjunkie  
Last year

The smart bet is with the Dandenong Rangers wining it all for the boys.

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LC  
Last year

VC preliminary finals tonight:

U14 Girls
Kilsyth vs Nunawading
Diamond Valley vs Sandringham

All four teams selected for nationals have made the semi's, again, justifying their selection to nationals.
Kilsyth and Diamond Valley the form teams heading into finals. Kilsyth have had everyone's number in 2023, and it is theirs to lose.

U14 Boys
Dandenong vs Geelong United
Nunawading vs Keilor

Eltham got knocked out in a close one against Geelong last week. Dandy, Nuna and Keilor are all still in it to win it. Is it Dandenong the favourites.

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Bluey  
Last year

who are the 4 metro boys teams heading to Nationals LC?

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LC  
Last year

As per earlier post:

U14 Girls - Victorian invitations:
1 - Casey (Host)
2 - Moe (Country Champion)
3 – Nunawading (1st Watson)
4 - Diamond Valley (2nd Watson)
5 – Kilsyth (1st Ashe)
6 – Sandringham (2nd Ashe)

U14 Boys - Victorian Invitations:
1 - Casey (Host)
2 - Warragul (Country Champion)
3 – Eltham (1st Watson)
4 – Nunawading (2nd Watson)
5 – Dandenong (1st Ashe)
6 – Keilor (2nd Ashe)

Read more here about all the teams that have qualified: https://pickandroll.com.au/p/the-teams-set-to-battle-for-the-australian?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2

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Bluey  
Last year

TY LC. So Geelong are a bit unlucky perhaps not to be going.

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LC  
Last year

Well Geelong actually had two chances, via the Country Cup (won by Warragul) and VJBL. They failed at both, even though they made top 4 finals.

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Bluey  
Last year

don't country teams give up their chance to qualify as a country team if they are in the VJBL?

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LC  
Last year

Geelong lost to Warrnambool in the semi of the Country Cup, and Warrnambool lost to Warragul in the final.

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Bballfan  
Last year

For anyone in the know, do you want to predict top 8 in both boys and girls comp?

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LC  
Last year

VJBL preliminary results:

U14 Girls
Kilsyth def Nunawading
Diamond Valley def Sandringham

U14 Boys
Nunawading def Keilor
Dandenong def Geelong

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BigD  
Last year

One thing to note about the VIC teams, the best player for Dandenong also played for Warragul in the JCC to help them qualify...

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Billy Bob  
Last year

So who does he play for at nationals?

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mexicano  
Last year

Muir didn't play in the GF at Country Champs, and he played for Dandy at the Classic. It’s not the first time a player has qualified for more than one team.

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mexicano  
Last year

Bluey - that rule only applies for the Classic, but doesn't apply if you’re Korumburra!

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XXXX  
Last year

You are obviously referring to Gippsland United not being eligible for the Classic. It's a bad rule but they are not eligible because they are considered an amalgam of associations.

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mexicano  
Last year

XXXX - Bluey was talking about teams Country Champs winning teams who also play vjbl. Nothing to do with Gippsland United, they can't even qualify as a vjbl team in Classics.

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LC  
Last year

Kilsyth opened up a big first quarter lead before holding off a late Diamond Valley challenge to win the VC girls title. Can they go on to win the Club Champs? They are clearly the team to beat.

What a finish to the Dandenong vs Nunawading game! The last could of minutes was insane shooting. Dandy hit a three at the buzzer to steal the win. Fantastic game of hoops. Both teams will be tough to beat.

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Cracker game between dandy and spectres

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Bballfan  
Last year

VIC teams to win boys and girls?

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Bluey  
Last year

can't see anyone beating Kilsyth in the girls

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