Tex
Two weeks ago

Big V division changes

Hawthorn and Camberwell men are going to swap divisions. Hawthorn men will drop to Divy 1 and Camberwell are going to enter State championship.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

where was this confirmed? another thread talks about bellarine moving up as well. where are people getting this information?

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Hahahaha

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Hawthorn are in all sorts at the moment.

Smart thing would be to drop to D1 for a couple of years to sort themselves out.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Whats the latest with this situation?

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Anonymous  
Last week

I would assume hawthorn and campberwell switch plus the addition of keys and bellarine based on what others have said?

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Anonymous  
Last week

Doubt Keysborough are going up given their import signed elsewhere.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Corio bay are returning to Champ men next year.

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donotreach  
Last week

Whittlesea has annouced tryouts for D1 men so assuming RMIT & Altona and them go up.

corio and Bella in SC Men instead of keys

and talk of Gippsland, colac and a third country team to enter D2

No more to be said - call it promotion call it what you want I think most of this forum including myself got it wrong I thought Keys would be a shoe in to go up.

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Local  
Last week

Corio Bay are not returning to Champ. Happy in Div 1 for 2022.
Bellarine unkown as of today

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Anonymous  
Last week

Who is the third country team to enter?

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Anonymous  
Last week

Surf Coast were considering applying. Not sure if they have or will.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Whittlesea Men lost over a 3rd of their games in D2 after years of dismal performances in D1. Why would they go up?

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Tex  
Last week

Why would Whittlesea go up? What a joke
Whittlesea go up over Wallan? Ok, y'all really trying to make peeps cry with laughter

Man Big V have lost the plot!

"No promotion or relegation, nothing to play for"
Nekminute
“Whittlesea would you like to play D1M, Mornington you won 2 games would you like to play Champ men next year”

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Anonymous  
Last week

The Big V admitted themselves that the ladder was compromised with teams playing different amount of games and an uneven / unfair fixture.

If the season had played out in its entirety, both Mildura and Sherbrook would have finished ahead of Whittlesea.

Will they both be going up? Both wanted to.

Would love for Big V to provide some form of justification for this.

How has this been allowed to happen.

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Peggy zoo  
Last week

Sherbrooke ARE going to D1 next year

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Jack  
Last week

Interestingly Surfcoast updated their website today stating they play Big V

It says :-

"The Surfcoast Basketball Association (SBA) welcomes all basketball players, coaches, officials and supporters to the Surfcoast Chargers Representative basketball program. The Surfcoast Chargers teams compete in the Big V Men and Women, Country Basketball League (CBL) Men and Women, and the Victorian Junior Basketball League (VJBL) competitions."

https://www.basketballsurfcoast.com.au/chargers/

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Anonymous  
Last week

A few clubs updated their websites today.

Did the Big V release something?

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Monix  
Last week

If Big V are canvassing the league to see which teams want to go in which divisions after the rollercoaster 2020-2021 seasons and Casey and Keilor leaving, then why don't those people on here complaining that their club didn't get promoted just apply to go up ?

Stop bitching.

Big V need a massive revamp. Hopefully this is the beginning of this shake up.

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donotreach  
Last week

Said it before - this isn't promotion and relegation this is applications for divisions. Forced by the move of clubs to NBL1 and the entry of 3 new teams. .

Wallan i assume like Keys can't confirm or have lost import, which lets face it was the team for most of the season.

surf Coast seems likely.

Clearly the Big V have said something to some and not others.

Sherbrooke are NOT going up, they will most likely win D2 but they aren't going up its RMIT, Whittlesea and Altona which makes room for the next 3 coming in.

Bellarine and Corio going up makes sense but feel for Keysborough, maybe the Hawthorn Camberwell switch is true.

Teams like Melbourne Uni have dodged a bullet - mind you Whittlesea Women have also been demoted to D1 out of CW

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Anonymous  
Last week

This is utter BS the Big V allowing this movement. I know my club would have approached the season very differently if we knew there was a chance to go up. Instead we finished mid table.

Those that trusted the Big V been screwed.

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donotreach  
Last week

Your club did the right thing - maybe they didn't submit or begin planning for next season. This ain't what you do on the court its about how prepared you are on and off. roster, imports etc etc

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Anonymous  
Last week

^ Good luck getting imports in for next year

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Anonymous  
Last week

How prepared do you have to be to go from D2 to D1?

What do you need to do off court to get out of D2? Isn't it the same requirements off court?

Big V just playing favourites again. How else do you explain Whittlesea going up?

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Anonymous  
Last week

^^There's quite a few still here from last year already and the borders will be 1000% open for fully vaxxed imports (workers) by March

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Anonymous  
Last week

Why waste money on imports if the season could be canceled at any point like this year?

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Anonymous  
Last week

Why should Whittlesea get the nod over Sherbrooke?

Sherbrooke shuld be D1

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donotreach  
Last week

Sherbrooke got clapped by RMIT both games and had multiple bad losses, not convinced they were the next best team, neither was Whittlesea. BUT Wallan seem to have been the biggest losers out of this.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Wallan was working all year at going up to D1. What happened?

Dont give me it was off court rubbish as they were proactive and live streamed games better than most clubs in State champ.

I'd be livid if i were Wallan.

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Anonymous  
Last week

This is what happens when you put all your eggs in the import basket like Wallan and Keysie have done. Not sustainable.

Unfortunately both clubs should have gone up but missed out cos imports left for better offers.

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Game Watcher  
Last week

Any news on changes in women's divisions?

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Anonymous  
Last week

Whittlesea women have been relegated to D1W

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Anonymous  
Last week

Seems like fair few clubs have been caught out by Big V's whole 'its a nothing year' and 'we assure you there is no promotion or relegation' charade

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Monix  
Last week

Same gripes. "We didn't plan on getting promoted so we finished mid-table".
What ?

It's pretty simple. Especially now with all the jumbling of teams. If you want your team to go up, your club should be approaching Big V and putting their case forward. Not engineering your team to finish mid table for a run next season. If you have the capacity to go up a division, present that to Big V, simple.

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Anti Monix  
Last week

Yeah Monix is right. Have a good season and apply just like Keysie and Wallan did.

Oh..

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Anonymous  
Last week

Just be part of the in crowd like Whittlesea and keep getting favours from Big V

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Anonymous  
Last week

Wallan have never played finals in D2M. At least Keysborough is usually either in finals or not far off.

Don't think you can compare the 2. Different situations.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Just remember the Big V management couldn't figure out how to create a ladder until like round 10

Go easy on them

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Monix  
Last week

Then there is obviously an underlying factor why those teams didn't/weren't accepted up. Especially because Big V would be actively looking to fill some holes this offseason with their Divisions.

Bitch all you want, but if your club has all the right ingredients to go up, they can/will. Big V has a history of elevating teams upon request should they meet the requirements.

Or next season perhaps instead of planning to be mid-table, plan to win it.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Monix Keysie and Wallan finished 1st and 3rd respectively in 12 team comps. Would hardly call that mid table.

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Monix  
Last week

The mid table was in reference to #594 whose club "would have approached the season very differently if we knew there was a chance to go up. Instead we finished mid table.".

As for Wallan & Keysie, considering their placements and Big V needing to reshuffle the Divisions with 2 clubs pulling out to go to NBL1, I can only imagine they didn't apply, or if they did were rejected, and would have been given feedback as to why that was.

I don't know those clubs individually well enough, but as one poster said above, maybe its because they relied too heavily on their imports (I didn't see any of their games). But maybe it was the strength of their program as a whole ? Their venue. If they did apply and were rejected in being promoted, you saying they weren't given a reason why ?

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Anonymous  
Last week

Wallan applied. Big V like Whittlesea better. Simple.

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Monix  
Last week

Big V stated that in their rejection response ?

"Hi Wallan, we think you're super and all, but we just like Whittlesea better. Soz".

You see the response ? Post it.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Until Big V announces it, all this is hear say.... whittlesea can announce scm but until big v confirms anything or these clubs can actually prove it, it does not matter.

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pod  
Last week

From someone at BV
Both Wallan and Keysborough would have gone up had the imports not left. The common belief is that they relied on the players that left


Its a shame for both clubs but always a risk when you have good imports

Unlike everyone else on here i feel for them and i hope they both have a good season and can look to get promoted next year

Well done to the clubs that got promoted hope they do well next year

Exciting to see new clubs coming in. Been a long time coming. Well done

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Anonymous  
Last week

Just remember the Big V management couldn't figure out how to create a ladder until like round 10.

Wasn't really BigV. Was the platform they chose

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Anonymous  
Last week

Maybe before implementing something new, make sure you know how it works.

Just a thought.

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Anonymous  
Last week

BV literally just don't care.There are some good people there but most involved with competitions are just taking a paycheck. Their IT department need to do a sweep of browsing history because half of them troll and leak stuff on here all of the time. Maybe they could do a serious clean out.

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Anon  
Last week

BV read hoops all the time

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donotreach  
Last week

So now its been announced that Sharif Black (Wallan) is going to Mckinnon, this would spell one of the reasons they are being given a Div 1 opportunity, they put everything on the guys shoulders 40 plus points every night for 17 games is a hell of a scoring rate but what are the chances of finding another guard like that?

Have McKinnon got the first official signing of the off-season?

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Anonymous  
Last week

@donotreach Where was that announced? And yes I've heard of Barkeley, Lampkin signings on these threads but haven’t seen anything official yet.

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Anonymous  
Last week

wallan announced it on their social media

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Jet  
Last week

Where did Barkeley and Lampkin sign?

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Anonymous  
Last week

Obviously that is why Wallan are not going up to D1

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Anonymous  
Last week

Barkeley signed with Sunbury champ men, not sure where Lampkin is

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Anonymous  
Last week

Casey were keen on him. Maybe there

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Anonymous  
Last week

Barkeley Sunbury
Lampkin Keilor

No posts from Wallan about Sharif Black so not sure he's confirmed to McKinnon anywhere.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this week

How will Camberwell and Keysie perform without them?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this week

Wallan Basketball FB Page has said Black has moved to McKinnon...

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Anonymous  
Earlier this week

Hawthorn have dropped BigV program till they can afford it again !

Cashcow (domestic) have left , will need to find another way to fund it .

Oh .. like make players pay for registrations, uniforms and get sponsorship - LIKE MOST CLUBS DO!

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Anonymous  
Earlier this week

Source of the Hawthorn post?

Or someone trying to spread a rumour?

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donotreach  
Earlier this week

I think the league needs to hurry up and release its divisions to cut this crap out, Hawthorn while in trouble not sure they would just drop Big V. You can play in the league without paying players.

Not sure how hard it is to take registrations for the season, look at them debate and then release within 2 weeks. Fixturing obviously takes longer.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this week

Hawthorns BigV team gotta be in jeopardy. But don't think hawthorn have pulled out (publicly) yet? Given their financial trouble probably regretting not opting out of this year. Surely that was discussed when they saw they were elbow deep in debt with no cash flow? Trying to hide the issue I guess but safe to say it’s out there now!LOL

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Anonymous  
Earlier this week

From someone in the know about magic big v teams-
"will probably only go with YL but will wait until after agm to decide to sure and announce anything publicly"

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Anonymous  
Earlier this week

Hawthorn were using funds from Domestic basketball to fund BigV, Junior domestic Clubs have pulled out of Hawthorn, so funds have dried up ! Not sure where they will get the $150K plus they need, seeing none of the teams pay for anything!

This is the reason they are in serious debt!

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Anonymous  
Earlier this week

Wow

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